Re: DIS: Fwd: [Referee] Weekly Report

2018-08-27 Thread D Margaux
recordkeepor is more or less equivalent to what you added. It also implies > that the report is self-ratifying. > > -Aris > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:25 AM D Margaux wrote: > > > I just noticed that there's no explicit requirement for the Referee to > > actually

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Old censer found down back of sofa, incense reintroduced to economy

2018-08-27 Thread D Margaux
uot;CoE: X is wrong" - is ambiguous: it might be a CoE > against any one of the self-ratifying documents that make up the Treasuror > report. > > What a headache. > > I CFJ: "A player other than D. Margaux owns at least 1 incense." > I CFJ: "The Treasuror's re

DIS: Fwd: [Referee] Weekly Report

2018-08-27 Thread D Margaux
: 1.0 Author: D. Margaux Amend Rule 2555 to add the following sentence: "The Referee SHALL track in eir Weekly Report the number of blots possessed by each impure person." immediately after this sentence: "The Referee is an office, and the recordk

Re: DIS: Fwd: [Referee] Weekly Report

2018-08-27 Thread D Margaux
: Referee Weekly Report Contents AI: 1.0 Author: D. Margaux Amend Rule 2555 to add the following as a new paragraph: "The Referee's Weekly Report SHALL include the following: 1. A list of each impure person and the number of blots possessed by each. 2. A list identi

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder to Vote on Proposal 8089

2018-08-26 Thread D Margaux
I vote PRESENT on proposal 8089. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:04 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > This time, Proposal > 8089 has three votes; > we need seven, please. > > Slackers: > ATMunn, Aris, Corona, CuddleBeam, D. Margaux, Murphy, omd, P.S.S., Trigon, > V.J. Rada, Gae

DIS: Fwd: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auction - 4 zombies

2018-09-09 Thread D Margaux
FWIW, I believe this auction has terminated by virtue of there having been no bids made or withdrawn in the past 96 hours. -- Forwarded message - From: D Margaux Date: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:27 AM Subject: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auction - 4 zombies To: Agora Business

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Please don't summarily judge me

2018-09-09 Thread D Margaux
In the coming days, unless persuaded otherwise, I plan to uphold this Finger Pointing and impose a forgiveable fine of 2 blots. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 12:28 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I favor this case. > > On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > On August 27, 2018, I initiated a CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some moves and such

2018-09-09 Thread D Margaux
Ack! I missed that. Too bad. Thanks for catching. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 1:53 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > On Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:48, D Margaux > wrote: > > I cause nichdel pay 3 apples to stake a land claim to (-3, 1) with > > land type Black. > > > &g

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8090-8093

2018-09-10 Thread D Margaux
I vote and cause nichdel to vote as follows: > 8090* D Margaux 1.7 Shenanigans For INEFFECTIVE Fines (v2) FOR > 8091* Murphy, Oerjan 2.0 Slow your quorum v1.1 FOR > 8092* twg 1.0 Yet Another Economics Patch AGAINST. > 8093* Aris 1.0 Proposal Re-insertion FOR On Mon, Sep 10, 201

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Old censer found down back of sofa, incense reintroduced to economy

2018-08-29 Thread D Margaux
no information whatsoever that could be ratified > about incense (if you don't label the blank list, you're not reporting it > and it doesn't self-ratify). So the true incense values that have in fact > self-ratified are from the last time the column was included (non-zero > values for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Slow your quorum

2018-08-30 Thread D Margaux
Yes that occurred to me too. I think if this proposal is adopted the quorum will basically always be 2. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:50 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal and destroy the minimum amount of paper > > required to

Re: DIS: [(Proto-?)proto-proto proposal] Putting Agora in Space

2018-10-07 Thread D. Margaux
One random added idea—what if there was a temporal component to the space travel, so that you wouldn’t move from place to place instantaneously but instead might take a few days to traverse the galaxy or whatever? And what if some Agoran actions could only be taken while you are in certain places?

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-11 Thread D Margaux
CANNOT win. >> Announcements made (including Slates of announcers): >> Trigon (B, C): I cause the Slate B players to win, if possible. >> - Dunno if a person can announce on behalf of others. >> - Some of Slate B have Blots, dunno if this makes the non-blotted >>

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread D. Margaux
How about: 1. “All pure active players could have won by announcement on the Effective Date under rule 2580” and 2. “Trigon, twg, D. Margaux, G., and L could win the game by announcement under rule 2580 on the Effective Date after the expungement of Trigon’s blot” and 3. “Trigon, twg, and L

DIS: Re: CFJ Decision re Left||Right

2018-10-12 Thread D Margaux
someone thinks I should. But thought I should clarify that for completeness. > On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:00 PM, D. Margaux wrote: > > CFJ judged TRUE: “At least one person won the game as a result proposal 8097 > taking effect.” > > Judge's Arguments: > > The text of P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Decision re Left||Right

2018-10-12 Thread D. Margaux
, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:05 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 17:00 -0400, D. Margaux wrote: > > CFJ judged TRUE: “At least one person won the game as a result > > proposal 8097 taking effect.” > > Is it even possible to win the game by proposal? I don't see that &g

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8105-8110

2018-10-15 Thread D. Margaux
On the other hand, there is this reasoning by Aris from a prior email chain that may be persuasive for why this kind of objection may be valid: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg29565.html On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:18 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > CFJ, barring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-15 Thread D. Margaux
: > Hmm. For some reason this feels like a build-up to a scam. Oh well, let's > see what happens. > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Monday, October 15, 2018 7:24 PM, D Margaux > wrote: > > > I CFJ the following three statements, and suggest to the

DIS: Fwd: Reinstated CFJ Decision re Left||Right

2018-10-16 Thread D Margaux
I sent this to the business mailing list, but it’s not showing up on the website archive... sending it again in case it didn’t go through. Begin forwarded message: From: "D. Margaux" Date: October 16, 2018 at 3:37:19 PM EDT To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Subject: Reinstated CFJ D

DIS: Fwd: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Last ever painstaking addition of 3s to each facility balance

2018-10-18 Thread D Margaux
|Corona||1 || > |CuddleBeam|| 9 || > |D. Margaux|| 62 || > |G.|| 42 || > |L.||0 || > |Murphy|| 14 || > |omd ||6 || > |PSS ||8 || > |Trigon|| 10 || > |twg || 44 || > +--++--+ > |Ga

Re: DIS: Fwd: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Last ever painstaking addition of 3s to each facility balance

2018-10-18 Thread D. Margaux
Setting up a new bank sounds like a fun idea! I just wouldn’t want to have the coin imbalance to prevent us from actually turning coins/points/whatever into something useful going forward. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 6:18 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, D Margaux wrote

DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection

2018-10-22 Thread D. Margaux
Welcome back and nice to meet you! > On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > Because everyone else is doing it i do the action incorporated in the title > for memes > -- > From V.J. Rada

DIS: Proto-Judgements in CFJs 3668 and 3669

2018-10-22 Thread D. Margaux
as a crime. For the reasons described in CFJ 3668, it is therefore per se prohibited by law. -- D. Margaux

DIS: Re: BUS: [Deputy] Arbitor Assignments

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
learly specified. So to avoid surplusage, doesn’t that mean that the announcement of intent can be ambiguous and unclear, provided that the action specified is clear? :-) > On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: >>&g

Re: DIS: [Prime Minister] Regarding Wins

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
, won on that day. Next before that was my October 3 attempt to win by apathy. That’s the subject of the CFJ that G. is currently reconsidering. And then next before that was Left||Right, where the following players won: CuddleBeam, G., Aris, omd, twg, and D. Margaux. > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Prime Minister] Regarding Wins

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
ctually buried in quotes. > > I CFJ, barring D. Margaux: > D. Margaux won by apathy in the message referred to in evidence. > > > Evidence: > > Message in question: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2018-October/039320.html > >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Prime Minister] Regarding Wins

2018-10-21 Thread D. Margaux
jan Johansen wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: >> >> Oh crud. That wasn’t supposed to be in quotes. Looks like I only unquoted >> the second line of the intent, not both lines. That’s very annoying. > > I've often seen messages with a

DIS: Re: BUS: [Deputy] Arbitor Assignments

2018-10-21 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:05 AM, D. Margaux wrote: > > I think I got all of the unassigned CFJs here. Hope I am doing this right; > please let me know if I made a mistake. Argh. I think I forgot to give a number to the Left/Right CFJ. Is the standard practice to renumber all of

Re: DIS: Herald's after-action report

2018-10-12 Thread D Margaux
e 2580" and > “D. Margaux and G. won on the Effective Date by announcement under rule 2580" (second one omits V.J. Rada and PSS because they are impure and so trivially could not win) > On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Perhaps we could call a CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank Heist

2018-10-12 Thread D Margaux
Rule 1472 says “A contract may also terminate by agreement between all parties.” That’s what happened here. Per Merriam-Webster, the relevant intransitive definition of “terminate” is to “come to an end in time.” I’m not sure why a contract that has “come to an end in time” would still be

Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Decision re Left||Right

2018-10-16 Thread D. Margaux
If anyone wants me to wait for their input, please let me know, otherwise I plan to reinstate this decision soonish. -- Forwarded message - From: D. Margaux Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 6:06 PM Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Decision re Left||Right To: Agora Business I self-move

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-16 Thread D. Margaux
Oh I see. If anything it’s the opposite—there’s a theory under which you three might win, and not me and G. On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:36 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I meant the way there are separate CFJs ruling on "Trigon, twg, D. > Margaux, G., and L" and "Trigon, twg,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8105-8110

2018-10-16 Thread D. Margaux
A) How did you even find that? I was searching through the archive several weeks ago for something else, and came across it. The concept of content neutrality stuck in my mind for some reason so I remembered it.

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-24 Thread D Margaux
I think this is a great revision. Some comments for your consideration For appeals, we could use the same reconsideration and moot process as for CFJs, and potentially use the same rule. > Amend Rule 2152, "Mother, May I?", by appending at the end of the first > paragraph the text > "Every

DIS: Dependent Action Proposal Adoption

2018-10-24 Thread D. Margaux
I’m considering proposing a rule that would enable proposals to be ADOPTED through dependent actions. The idea is that a player could announce intent to ADOPT a proposal with X support, where X is the number of players who by voting FOR could cause the proposal to be ADOPTED if all active

DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-23 Thread D. Margaux
Gaelan—winning the game would break your pledge! It would allow the PM to appoint you to an office (speaker). On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM Gaelan Steele wrote: > I do the action incorporated in my modification of the title. > > Gaelan > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-23 Thread D. Margaux
On Oct 23, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I have no idea if such things are INEFFECTIVE acts, or simply statements of > opinion. After some more thought—maybe an INEFFECTIVE action could also be a “lie” if it is intended to deceive. For example, what if a player with a zombie

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-24 Thread D Margaux
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:29 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Because I think it’s important to know why a verdict is assigned. I > disagree with your assertion that the major concern is the disposition of > the instant case. The precedent set for future cases is also crucially > important. It's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-23 Thread D. Margaux
t; off. > > Right now there's this in the auction rules, explicitly, as a result: >A person SHALL NOT bid on an Auction if it would be impossible for >em to pay that amount at the conclusion of the Auction. > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: > &g

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-24 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >>> However, a >>> player SHALL NOT make a accusation of which e believes the Defendant >>> not to be guilty without explaining emself in the same message; to do so >>> is the Class-5 Crime of Witch-Hunting. >> >> This is ambiguous—it

DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-10-28 Thread D. Margaux
-Grey wrote: > I intend to Demand Resignation from D. Margaux. > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, October 28, 2018 8:32 PM, D. Margaux > wrote: > > > I was going to wait at least the full 48 hours before doing this, but I > think I’v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-10-28 Thread D. Margaux
with the intent if the Speaker has objected to it in the last 48 hours.” On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 6:24 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > On Sunday, October 28, 2018 10:18 PM, D. Margaux > wrote: > > > So here’s the scam—I think that nothing prevents me from objecting to > this > &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-10-28 Thread D Margaux
>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 6:46 PM, "ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk" >> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 15:40 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> While With Notice is a dependent action, demanding resignation is NOT >> with notice: (2472/2) >> >> If a player is Overpowered, any player CAN Demand

Re: DIS: Since we're doing fancy contracts...

2018-10-28 Thread D. Margaux
I would be up for playing this. Just one comment below. > On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > Any player can become a Competitor and any Competitor can cease to be a > party to this contract. I think this should say these things can be done by announcement (as we

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Index Proposalorum

2018-10-28 Thread D Margaux
This one was me+twg I think > On Oct 28, 2018, at 3:11 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > 8120 G. 2.0 Fix for Uncertain Laurelings

Re: DIS: Attn. Trigon (Re: BUS: CFJ 3672 reassigned and new CFJ issued)

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
lready planning on publishing? > >> On 10/29/2018 11:16 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I think the critical question here is to Trigon. If Trigon's >> judgement is TRUE and reasonable enough not to trigger appeal, >> then all is fine - D. Margaux happened to deliver it first, but &

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3671-3 Judgements

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
. But I think I’ll probably just leave things the way they are, because that would at best just trade my RR wins for a Paradox win. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:56 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > So the result of this is: > > - Several Champion awards are owed (500 for D. Margaux). >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SPOOKY - Living Zombie

2018-10-31 Thread D. Margaux
(Needs to go to the public forum) > On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I do. > > Gaelan > >> On Oct 31, 2018, at 7:41 AM, D. Margaux wrote: >> >> Gaelan: >> >> To fix a mistake I made in drafting, I propose

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stop Speaking

2018-10-31 Thread D. Margaux
ld do this > > unilaterally by resigning, so this is clearly part of some sort of scam, > > even though I don't know what it is. > > > > -twg > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 PM, D. Margaux dmargaux...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-25 Thread D. Margaux
the rule text, but >> that's what it generally means. >> >> -Aris >>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 2:10 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: >>> >>> The first time I read it I assumed the exact opposite, so it's definitely >>> ambiguous. &g

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-25 Thread D. Margaux
rd, but I don't know > what "prospectively" means in a practical sense in this rule (is there a legal > term-of-art use of the word that I'm missing?) > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: >>> The Adjudicator CAN assign any verdict, SHALL assign an appropriate

Re: DIS: [Proto] Criminal Justice Reform Act

2018-10-25 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Okay. Revised plan: > > The Adjudicator CAN assign any verdict, SHALL assign an appropriate > verdict, and SHOULD assign the correct veridicr and list all other > appropriate verdicts. If a verdict is believed to be incorrect, any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3665 and 3666 judged TRUE

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 27, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > You might > decide to change it, but it's a well-argued judgement and an > interpretation that's reasonable, despite not containing any fancy Latin. Incidentally, this touches on one reason why I personally wouldn’t want to privilege

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3665 and 3666 judged TRUE

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
Thank you. This makes sense to me. Always appreciate the Agoran history lessons by the way—they’re fascinating. > On Oct 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: >> Basically, the lack of the phrase “by announceme

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3665 and 3666 judged TRUE

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 27, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Actually, the coin-into-fountain rule (R2572) is missing a > By Announcement. So that rule doesn't enable it. > > The only thing that enables asset destruction is in R2577, which > specifies "by its owner". Not sure I understand this

DIS: proto-Agoran People’s Party

2018-10-27 Thread D Margaux
ie to rank, any non-Member higher than any candidate who is a Member. Except for the prior sentence, notwithstanding any other provision of this Charter, the Party has no Opinion on any Agoran election. -- D. Margaux

DIS: Re: BUS: There really, really, is nothing to see here this time

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
I am tempted to assign this to G., so that e is required to give a verdict that compiles with No Faking. Any reason why I shouldn’t do that? On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 8:22 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > I CFJ “By sending a message at 3:35 PM Pacific on October 27, G. performed > one or more regulated

DIS: Re: proto-Agoran People’s Party

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
Thank you for the helpful comments. I clarify below. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 8:34 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > Feedback inline > > Gaelan > > > > 103. Joining the Party. Any active player CAN become a Member: > > > > (a) by announcement consenting to be bound by this Charter, if the > Party

Re: DIS: Uh-oh: CFJ ID clash

2018-11-03 Thread D. Margaux
Why don’t i just take the next two unused numbers, and use them to renumber two of the duplicates. Shouldn’t affect the judgement. Sorry all. > On Nov 3, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > D. Margaux wrote: >> Fair enough. This is CFJ 3678. I assign it to Murphy.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 3679-80 judgements

2018-11-03 Thread D. Margaux
I’ve been wondering why we call them “gratuitous” arguments. I would have thought that a “gratuitous” argument is one that is unwarranted, excessive, or improper, or at least one that wouldn’t change the outcome of the question under consideration. “Gratuitous” has a secondary meaning of “free

DIS: Proto judgement in CFJs 3681 and 3682

2018-11-02 Thread D. Margaux
> On Nov 2, 2018, at 8:41 AM, D. Margaux wrote: > > >> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Aris Merchant >> wrote: >> >> I CFJ "Performing an action with N support is a dependent action". > > This is CFJ 3681. > >> I CFJ &q

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recent New CFJs

2018-11-01 Thread D. Margaux
last CFJ and one without)? > > On 11/1/2018 6:01 PM, D. Margaux wrote: >>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: >>> >>> I CFJ: "Gaelan transferred a coin to me today." >> This is CFJ 3678. I assign it to Murphy. >>> On Nov

DIS: am I missing something?

2018-10-25 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 8:57 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > However, no matter what I seem to do, I can't get the hashes to line up. I > tried it with and without the header and footer, with and without line > wrapping. Did I miss a hash? Am I missing how it is supposed to be put into a > hash

DIS: Fwd: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8090-8093

2018-10-23 Thread D. Margaux
8090 D. Margaux Shenanigans For INEFFECTIVE... (v2) ADOPTED 8091 Murphy, Ørjan Slow your quorum v1.1REJECTED 8092 twgYet Another Economics Patch ADOPTED 8093 Aris Proposal Re-insertionADOPTED TALLY

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-23 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 23, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > I Point my Finger at G. for violating Rule 2471/1, "No Faking", by publishing > the patently false statement in the quoted message. There are clearly many > things that e does not object to - for example, eir status as a player of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3672 reassigned and new CFJ issued

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, D Margaux wrote: >> From the Arbitor’s Weekly: >> >>> 3672 called 15 October 2018 by D. Margaux, assigned to Trigon 20 >>> October 2018: "Trigon, twg, D. Margaux, G

Re: DIS: Attn. Trigon (Re: BUS: CFJ 3672 reassigned and new CFJ issued)

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > If Trigon would find that D. Margaux is not laureled, then it's > fine too: all of D. Margaux attempts failed (e didn't become > Speaker, and e didn't assign the case to emself). > > I'm not seeing PARADOX res

Re: DIS: Attn. Trigon (Re: BUS: CFJ 3672 reassigned and new CFJ issued)

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > This isn't a paradox though. The situation is resolved > by calling a new CFJ. I suppose that’s a fair point. In that case, if Trigon judges FALSE, the CFJ i called earlier today would determine which judgement prevails, I suppose

Re: DIS: private contract powers

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
UNDEAD seems super interesting. I just looked at a bunch of emails from the archive, but how did that end up? Was the contract ever revealed? > On Oct 27, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: >>> On Sat, 2018-10-27 at 15:30 -0700,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3672 reassigned and new CFJ issued

2018-10-29 Thread D. Margaux
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > So, why Moots are the wrong approach here. > > So on a first look, there's nothing in the Rules to forbid an open CFJ > from having two judges simultaneously. R991 only allows the Arbitor > to assign judges to cases with no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3665 and 3666 judged TRUE

2018-10-27 Thread D. Margaux
n > explanation for exactly what I’m missing (I’m not infallible). > > -Aris > >> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:31 AM D. Margaux wrote: >> >> I think both ATMunn’s and Aris’s opinions are plausible, and I will try to >> offer a more spirited defense of ATMunn’s

Re: DIS: Fwd: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Last ever painstaking addition of 3s to each facility balance

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
of the Treasuror’s report of 18 October 2018 their coin holdings had been as follows: ||Coins || +--++--+ |D. Margaux|| 62 || |G.|| 42 || +--++--+ 2. D. Margaux and G. are each awarded the Patent Title "Bank Robber." / On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:0

Re: DIS: Fwd: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Last ever painstaking addition of 3s to each facility balance

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
rt], > G. had 42 coins and D. Margaux had 62 coins. > } > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: > > In light of this confusion about the nature of ratification, what if > > the proposal were instead to say something like this: > > > > > > >

Re: DIS: Proto-judgement of CFJ 3670

2018-10-20 Thread D. Margaux
and upheld, my victory on Oct 9 was valid too. On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:12 PM D. Margaux wrote: > > From my message of 2 Oct 2018: > > > [New public msg dated 2 Oct 2018: > > I intend to declare ap- > > athy without objection specifying d > > margaux] > > Havi

Re: DIS: SCAM ALERT (was Re: BUS: Contract Hash)

2018-11-05 Thread D. Margaux
I confess I am hopelessly confused. The contract doesn’t seem to affect anyone besides twg and Gaelan. Is it a flaw in the proposal? But then what does that have to do with the timing of adoption? > On Nov 5, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > Actually, why am I even bothering

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3665 and 3666 judged TRUE

2018-11-10 Thread D. Margaux
I don’t think it ever got a second supporter. I would support an intent to put it into moot. On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:58 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Did we ever actually do this? > > -Aris > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:29 PM D. Marga

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread D. Margaux
Re CFJ 3680— I don’t disagree with the conclusion. I think you’re right that the plain language meanings could go either way, and I have no problem with the plain language being interpreted in the parliamentary sense so that only one objection counts as an objection. The rest of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cuddle Beam Finger Points

2018-10-04 Thread D Margaux
>Is it possible that the pledge requires >Cuddlebeam to be the >recordkeepor of everything, without >actually /making/ Cuddlebeam the >recordkeepor of everything? Perhaps it does, but I think the pledge would still ossify Agora. I think the question is whether CuddleBeam’s pledge (if effective)

Re: DIS: humble agoran farmer doesnt pledge the following

2018-10-04 Thread D Margaux
I think if this pledge were made, an appropriate response could be for a player to point 40 fingers at Cuddle Beam for taking 40 unauthorized breaths, and then for em to be forcibly deregistered :-) On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:41 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On

DIS: Re: BUS: RE: BU S: Some moves and such

2018-10-03 Thread D Margaux
Oct 3, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > Notice of Honour > > +1 D. Margaux (managing to sneak this one past me) > -1 Kenyon (arbitrarily selected zombie) > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:43 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Festival?

2018-10-03 Thread D Margaux
Ahh, I see. I was just perusing the ruleset and was wondering what would happen if I proposed one. That makes sense as a reason why it shouldn’t come to pass. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:45 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 12:42 -0400, D Margaux wrote: > > I intend with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Festival?

2018-10-03 Thread D Margaux
nched at > least two invasions in my memory (both failed - I don't think they ever > end well). > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, D Margaux wrote: > > Ahh, I see. I was just perusing the ruleset and was wondering what would > > happen if I proposed one. That makes sense as a reason why it

DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread D Margaux
CB: if you want to win by apathy, then you’d better decide CFJ 3652 before I get around to blotting you for the late decision. :-P > On Oct 9, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I win the game too. > I intend to declare victory by apathy, with its set of players being just > > myself >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread D. Margaux
The proposals were constructed such that each player was on exactly two slates. So, ATM would have won if only A or C won; if both A and C won; or if C and B won, but not A. Other permutations would obtain for other players. The hope was that it would lead to some fun strategic voting behavior.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: One More...?

2018-10-09 Thread D. Margaux
together a proposal to revoke the excess titles or some such. On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:01 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 19:59 -0400, D Margaux wrote: > > And one more at the deadline to try to get the last word on the RR > > victories.. :-) > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer becomes a demiruge of a sort

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
The Treasuror is required to keep records of coins, but not every day or minute. E breaks the rules only if e hasn’t updated the records weekly in a report. Cuddle Beam has no required report for the information for which e has pledged to be recordkeepor. So maybe there is no violation for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nothing to See Here

2018-09-30 Thread D Margaux
rather have submitted to the currency revaluation. > > If anyone spots the booby-trap, please don't point it out. I want the > delicious satisfaction of seeing their reactions when it activates. c: > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, September 30,

Re: DIS: Beginning of October Land Deletion Poll

2018-09-30 Thread D Margaux
couple months back) and most of the points that were > brought up back then are still applicable here. > > Additionally, now that both G. and Corona, two people who supported the > subgame in the first place, have become disinterested in the mechanic's > continuation, it remains t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077B-8081B, 8082A-8085A, 8087A-8089A and 8096-8103

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
eded. > > This won't change the fact that 8081 was rejected, so there's no > game uncertainty that will propagate from this CoE outside the coin > holdings of myself and D. Margaux. > > [This is true for 8080 as well, but I don't want to CoE that one - > it will be Adopted

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077B-8081B, 8082A-8085A, 8087A-8089A and 8096-8103

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
G.— Twg was referring to my conditional, not yours. On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > It's not a conditional _vote_, it's a conditional _action to change > > the vote_. You still submitted an unconditional vote; it's just

DIS: Re: SJ & Finger Point

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
in the rules, since it seems to let technical deadline violations be punished but not if the deadline was unmet for long enough. Be that as it may, I think I must resolve the pointed finger by declaring it Shenanigans, unless someone disageees. -- Forwarded message - From: D Margaux Date

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pointed Finger at CuddleBeam

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
t floor is floor - BADABOOM. And I can keep on going. Incredible, I > > know, but it's all in a day's work for the Cuddlemeister. > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:18 PM D Margaux wrote: > > > > > G. wrote: > > > > > > > I point my finger at CuddleBeam

DIS: Re: BUS: Is the left thing right?

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
lius Scribonius Scholasticus > > Cuddle Beam|| VJ Rada > > Trigon || Murphy > > G. || omd > > Aris || twg > > ATMunn || D. Margaux > > > > // > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077B-8081B, 8082A-8085A, 8087A-8089A and 8096-8103

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
But just to clarify—if the CFJs find that G and i couldn’t transfer to the contract, then I think both of our votes (and our zombies’ votes) flip, causing the Point Installation Act to pass. Or is there some reason that wouldn’t occur in that situation? > On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Timon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077B-8081B, 8082A-8085A, 8087A-8089A and 8096-8103

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
Haha, amazing. What a ridiculous game. :-) On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:01 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh no. Maybe the 30th or something. We usually have have a few each year. > > -Aris > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:58 PM D Margaux wrote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077B-8081B, 8082A-8085A, 8087A-8089A and 8096-8103

2018-10-02 Thread D Margaux
LOL. The Bank of Agora has caused quite a mess. The first Agoran financial crisis, perhaps? On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:52 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > OK, please nobody do anything major with coins until these CFJs > > are judged, otherwise we may

DIS: Re: BUS: Click here for FREE land!

2018-09-28 Thread D Margaux
ere to return in the future, and the economy > didn't go through some sort of reset, I would like the player who claimed > the assets offered in this message to give me at least a part of them back > so I don't have to start from scratch. > > ~Corona > -- D. Margaux

DIS: Re: BUS: Click here for FREE land!

2018-09-28 Thread D Margaux
Thanks Corona! And nice to meet you :-) I feel bad now for blotting you earlier today. Sorry bout that. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM D Margaux wrote: > I act on Coronas behalf to transfer all of Coronas liquid assets to me > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:52 PM Corona > wrot

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3659 judged FALSE

2018-09-28 Thread D Margaux
;>What no one realized (or at least said publicly) at the time was that D. Margaux had attempted to intend to declare Victory by Apathy Without Objection. For the sake of accuracy, I note that twg understood my intent to Declare Apathy and e decided to share in the victory rather th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

2018-09-28 Thread D Margaux
Oh nice. Sorry, didn’t catch that announcement. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:12 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, D Margaux wrote: > > I intend with Notice to flip the following zombies' master switches to > > Agora: > > > > Zombie Mast

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