DIS: Thinking of joining

2009-02-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Hello. I have just discovered Nomic, and I am currently considering joining Agora in order to get accustomed to the game and see how it's played. Should I? How much will be expected of me? Is it better to be Watcher for a few weeks and try to keep up anyway, or just dive in head first? If I join,

DIS: Anarchist?

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Whatever happened to the Anarchist? As I understood it Bayes held it, but was declared inactive and lost it, the Goethe nominated himself for it. Has voting begun yet?

DIS: Read the Ruleset Week - typos

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
This could just be me not being a native English speaker, but I think the form If xxx, than yyy is incorrect. It is found in two places in the rules, R106 and R2198, and should probably read then instead of than. Since the Rulekeepor can change these typos, it's not necessary to submit proposals

DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Murphy wrote: Tiger wrote: I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I instead vote FOR x1) You're not an eligible voter for proposal 6072, as you weren't

DIS: Re: OFF: [Dep. Anarchist] Repealment proposals

2009-02-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Geoffrey Spear wrote jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: The following proposals are made as a part of the Anarchist's weekly duties. Said duties have not been performed within the tme limit, so I hereby deputise for the office regarding this duty. Proposal: Repeal R2147 Repeal Rule 2147

DIS: Still learning this...

2009-02-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
From the thread going on in Business right now: --- On 2/9/09, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I contest the last 5 of these. Punishing em 6 times for what is essentially the same inaction is manifestly unjust, and may break R101. Alright, then I submit the following NoVs: (snip) --- The

Re: DIS: Still learning this...

2009-02-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/2/9 comex com...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: No it has to do with showing names/aliases. That's the name that shows up in the archives themselves when no name outside of the actual address is supplied. Look at the archive list's

DIS: AAA: I just have to join, right?

2009-02-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I read through the AAA contract, and as I understand it it's just for me to join and request subsidization, and I will have a couple of lands to start with? Anything tricky I should think about?

DIS: Re: BUS: still not here, but...

2009-03-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/2 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: I nominate Taral and comex for Accountor (low priority). I nominate ais523 and Murphy for Tailor (low priority). I nominate Taral, comex, ais523, Murphy, OscarMeyr, Tiger, and ehird for Conductor (high priority). -Goethe I decline the nomination

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: still not here, but...

2009-03-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/2 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: I nominate myself for Anarchist (now *that* I can handle) I nominate tiger for Anarchist (not wholly fair to make a new player/ officer who's doing a good job have to keep track of re-running). (tiger, you

DIS: Re: agora-official digest, Vol 1 #2474 - 2 msgs

2009-03-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/2/26 agora-official-requ...@agoranomic.org: NUM  C I AI  SUBMITTER           TITLE 6120 D 1 2.0 Murphy              Increase the ticket ration I vote FOR this proposal.

Re: DIS: Re: agora-official digest, Vol 1 #2474 - 2 msgs

2009-03-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/3 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Tiger wrote: 6120 D 1 2.0 Murphy              Increase the ticket ration I vote FOR this proposal. NttPF I'm sorry, until now I thought I could just watch that being aid everywhere and figure out what it meant on my own, but now that it's said to

Re: DIS: Re: agora-official digest, Vol 1 #2474 - 2 msgs

2009-03-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Oh, just realized I'm in the wrong forum. I guess it's something about Public Forum, but I'd still like to know the exact acronym. Iäll repost in business.

DIS: Foreign relations

2009-03-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
How active is another nomic required to be for Agora to recognize it? I am thinking of two nomics, first the Einos found here: (http://einos-nomic.blogspot.com/) which already has the We submit to Agora as our benevolent protector rule in its ruleset, and secondly the Nomic in the Forum Games

Re: DIS: Foreign relations

2009-03-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/3 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 14:53 +, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/3/3 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: Any activity. einos is run by our player Craig/Teucer, and since we can make it a Protectorate we might as well. The Ambassador handles

Re: DIS: Foreign relations

2009-03-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/3 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: 2009/3/3 Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com: This seems like an excellent reason /for/ Agora to interfere. R2147: ...Agora, being the superpower of nomics, has an inherent responsibility to lead the nomic world; and ... Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun and games

2009-03-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/3 Taral tar...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Voting for this one could be useful insurance against whatever Goethe is trying. We already have H. Cassandra Goethe, don't make me a Cassandra too... Change amend to repeal, and I'll vote

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6121-6139

2009-03-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
6137 O 0 1.0 Tiger               Ambassador Anarchy AGAINST (probably invalid) Why? Did I fail to use correct adoption index again?

DIS: Billy Pilgrim

2009-03-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Is Billy Pilgrim still around? As far as I can see e hasn't said anything for over 2 weeks.

Re: DIS: Billy Pilgrim

2009-03-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/8 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com: Is Billy Pilgrim still around? As far as I can see e hasn't said anything for over 2 weeks. Er, no e isn't. Sorry for not reading through things before posting.

DIS: Re: BUS: dead contests

2009-03-09 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Geoffrey Spear wrote: I intend, without 3 objections, to flip the contestmaster of Brainfuck Joust to None. I intend, without 3 objections, to flip the contestmaster of Enigma to None. I object to both of these.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New contest

2009-03-11 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/11 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 19:49 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I agree to this contract. (or is that how you say when you want to join the contest?) Yep, that's correct. It isn't a contest yet, just an ordinary contract atm; however, it's clearly intended

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Lest I forget

2009-03-12 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/12 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 15:12 +, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/3/12 Alexander Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: ehird wrote (with top-posting corrected): Blame the iPhone's lack of adequate text box movement. On 2009-03-11, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6140-6151

2009-03-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I vote the following way, on each proposal a number of times equal to my voting limit on that proposal NUM  C I AI  SUBMITTER           TITLE 6140 D 1 2.0 Goethe              reward contest activity FOR 6141 D 1 3.0 coppro              Fix 754 FOR 6143 D 0 2.0 Tiger               Subsidy

DIS: The Ambassador is gone

2009-03-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
The ambassador is now gone thanks to the anarchist, but there are still rules that define things as his responsibility. How is this handled?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6140-6151

2009-03-15 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Also, to reduce the risk of transcription errors, please say no vote instead of snipping proposals from the quoted material (as you did with 6142). Will do.

DIS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6121-6139, scam

2009-03-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal 6137 (Ordinary, AI=1.0, Interest=0) by Tiger Ambassador Anarchy Repeal Rule 2148 (Foreign Relations) This fails as it is inadequate to clearly identify either Rule 2148 (The Ambassador) or Rule 2185 (Foreign

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{ Proposal 6164 (Ordinary, AI=1.0, Interest=1) by Yally Low-priority Anarchism Amend the first paragraph of rule 2216 (The Repeal-o-Matic) to read: { The Anarchist is a low-priority office; its holder is responsible for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/18 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: 6164 O 1 1.0 Yally               Low-priority Anarchism 8xAGAINST.  I like my anarchy weekly. -Goethe As I understand it, it still will be. The paragraph The Anarchist's weekly duties include the performance of the following tasks(...) will

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/18 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: I see no reason to leave an office, especially one with a weekly duty, vacant for any longer than necessary.  In fact, I'm not sure there's a good reason not to require the IADoP to nominate as soon as possible for all vacant offices rather than

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/19 Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com: I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted at http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums allow for anonymous

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/19 Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: We should so join this, right? I imagine it would be similar if Agora and B simply joined each other, or at least if B joined Agora. I believe that BlogNomic

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Anarchist] Repealment proposals

2009-03-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/22 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 23:06 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: The following proposal is made as a part of the Anarchist's weekly duties. Date of this message: Sun 22 Mar 09 Date of last fulfilment of these duties: Sat 14 Mar 09 Proposal: Speaker Anarchy

DIS: Joining InterNomic 2

2009-03-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
So, if I want to make a proposal about us joining IN2, how should I word it? Is referring to another nomic in the rules a good idea, or should they be kept general?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Anarchist] Repealment proposals

2009-03-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/23 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 19:35 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:         2009/3/22 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:         On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 23:06 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Yes, but do they play? I can't find any message by anyone other than kennercat... 2009/3/23 Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com: Hey, I've just researched this again and not including me, there are 3 members: http://groups.google.com/group/fresh-nomic?pli=1 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at

DIS: Re: BUS: polite request

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: A humble request:  can players (esp. newish players without email addresses matching their nicknames) get in the habit of including their nick as a signature?  Used to be pretty much the done thing (for everyone, even the old-timers) though might

DIS: Re: BUS: polite request

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com: 2009/3/24 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: A humble request:  can players (esp. newish players without email addresses matching their nicknames) get in the habit of including their nick as a signature?  Used to be pretty much the done

DIS: Re: BUS: Some Real Elections!

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: [Looks like the proposal system is up for grabs] I initiate two Agoran Decisions to choose the holder for each of the following two offices.  Each decision is identified by its office.  The eligible voters for each decision are the active players

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: polite request

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: 2009/3/24 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: A humble request:  can players (esp. newish players without email addresses matching their nicknames) get in the habit of including their nick as a signature?  Used to be pretty much the done

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: polite request

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 22:26 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/3/24 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: 2009/3/24 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: A humble request:  can players (esp. newish players without email addresses matching

DIS: Re: BUS: whistle

2009-03-24 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/24 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: Darth Cliche idles. Quorum becomes 1. Okay, what is up with mixing up Agora and Blognomic? -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/25 comex com...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Add the following after the third section of rule 2148 (the ambassador): If a foreign nomic allows for one player to join on behalf of Agora, only the ambassador may do so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/25 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:12 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Okay, I guess I didn't really know exactly what was allowed since I just read outline changes to the gamestate. The only thing I can see that would stop it is that it requires higher power than

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomic Wars III

2009-03-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
11. (Rating=4, Owner=null) Creating a new section is a Battle Action with a cost of 2. Exactly what is a section? I don't really get it, the rest of the rules imply that players create rules against each other, but what you can create is sections. How do you get war-rules into your sections? --

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/26 The PerlNomic Partnership perlno...@nomictools.com: NUM  C I AI  SUBMITTER           TITLE 6167 D 1 3.0 comex               Foo I vote AGAINST this proposal. -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] SoA Report

2009-03-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I wish to purchase a Digit Ranch. (Can I do that with those y-points I got from Enigma?) -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another try

2009-03-31 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/31 comex com...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: If there is something wrong that's easy to fix, please let me know so that I can retract and edit. It's not wrapped properly. :p Yeah, those things are hard. Where should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another try

2009-03-31 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/1 Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/31 comex com...@gmail.com: It's not wrapped properly. :p Yeah, those things are hard. Where should I put them, what is it I'm actually delimiting

DIS: [proto] Mornington Crescent as a contest?

2009-04-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Is the idea even feasible? I am thinking somewhere along the lines of the original Mornington Crescent, with all its nuances and strategies, being played as a contest monitored by a few meta-rules. So a move consists of a description of the move with things like Nice move, I'll have to rethink

Re: DIS: [proto] Mornington Crescent as a contest?

2009-04-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/6 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:33 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Is the idea even feasible? I am thinking somewhere along the lines of the original Mornington Crescent, with all its nuances and strategies, being played as a contest monitored by a few meta-rules

Re: DIS: [proto] Mornington Crescent as a contest?

2009-04-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/6 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:50 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/4/6 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: Rather different from what you thought up, though; the old ruleset looks like quite an interesting and fun ruleset for Mornington Crescent. I can't

Re: DIS: [proto] Mornington Crescent as a contest?

2009-04-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/6 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: 2009/4/6 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com: I can't be bothered to read all that, I'm sorry, but it's not at all what I meant. From what I can see Mornington Nomic is more of a nomic meant to look like a game of MC than a game

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor]Distribution Report

2009-04-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I vote: 6191  Joining other nomics, take 2               O  1.0  1   Tiger FOR 6192  Loosen contest axes                        D  2.0  1   Murphy FOR 6193  Grandfather Anarchy                        D  2.0  0   tiger FOR 6194  Pragmatic Contestmaster Award Eligibility  D  2.0  1   root FOR

Re: ?spam? DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Last week's results

2009-04-08 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/8 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:38 -0400, Jamie Dallaire wrote: To Tiger and ais523: Is there any particular logic to the way you came up with these, or was it just a matter of trying until something worked? The first two times this puzzle was submitted I tried

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6187 - 6190

2009-04-10 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I vote:  6187  D1  3.0  coppro      Instant Adoption AGAINST  6188  D0  2.0  ais523      Fix the revocation bug FOR -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Last week's results

2009-04-16 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/16 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 19:18 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: There was one Enigma puzzle this week, Scales by Tiger: A puzzle named Scales. You have a balance scale and want to be able to measure any integer number of ounces. Which is the biggest weight that

DIS: Internomic2

2009-04-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Well, I still want us to join. I won't submit the same proposal again, but I don't think there was a good explanation from the ones voting against. Are you just against the concept of Internomic, or is it something in the proposal that I can change? -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6191 - 6195

2009-04-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/17 comex com...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: If you have been the contestmaster for at least 16 days, you MAY once, otherwise you MAY not, so all the statements are illegal. I'm not really sure about what the rest of 2234

Re: DIS: Internomic2

2009-04-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/17 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com: 2009/4/17 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com: Well, I still want us to join. I won't submit the same proposal again, but I don't think there was a good explanation from the ones voting against. Are you just against the concept

Re: DIS: Internomic2

2009-04-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/17 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: As if the ruleset has ever prevented a nomic... A bad ruleset keeps certain people, who care about such things, from joining.  In this case, it's keeping Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Herald Election Fails Quorum

2009-04-18 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/18 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: This post serves the purpose of resolving the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Registrar office. The options were coppro, root, and Tiger. The subject line says Herald. -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: NoV, obnoxious intents

2009-04-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I support all of these. 2009/4/20 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: Bring back the history, dammit. I publish an NoV accusing Yally of violating R1789, a Power-2 rule, by publishing a Registrar's Report that failed to ensure that all know that Andre deregistered in a Writ of FAGE. I

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA Subsidization

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Tiger wrote: I request subsidization. (I'm not sure about when points were last awarded, but from a quick search in the scoreboards it seems the subsidy should have went up to 4 this week.) Same here, though I suspect this fails because I

DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] SoA Actions

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: I award 8+2i points to Murphy for harvesting 2 democratic proposals and an ordinary proposal. Tiger's request for subsidization in denied; e has 5 lands (3 ranches, 2 mills) and the subsidy is 4. --SoA Wooble Oh. That's right, it's lands, not

DIS: Re: BUS: NoV, obnoxious intents

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 comex com...@gmail.com: [Completely off-topic: It's a week since vacation but I'm still trying to find the time to publish a Lead Sheet.  (hours, most likely...) But if someone else wants to do it, I'll accept the rests for the last few weeks.] I'm trying to sort it out now. If you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6209 - 6222 Report

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Tiger wrote: 6211  Refactor appeals opinions                  O  1.7  1   comex FORx2 Your caste is only 1. I know. -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-04-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/22 David Picón Álvarez da...@miradoiro.com: I wish to be registered. --David. By whom? -- -Tiger

DIS: Einos

2009-04-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
http://einos-nomic.blogspot.com/ Einos has had a move activition, and now has a restriction on when protective decrees take effect. It's pretty clear it's just to get some kind of reaction, but the only thing coherent with our rules is to disqualify it from being a protectorate, right? -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2009-04-22 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/22 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM, 869850178 209745189 pr769...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I’m a gamer friend of Kerim (you call him Goethe) and he’s sometimes talked about Agora.  I played original Nomic in person with him a couple times a few

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2461 assigned to Murphy

2009-04-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/23 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 03:23 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ==  CFJ 2461  == Caller:                                 Nameless Isn't it customary to refer to unknown CFJ applicants as Hillary Rodham

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Dep. Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-04-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/23 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: coppro wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I depitise for the conductor to publish the following report: I transfer a prop from myself to Tiger for em sorting through nearly a month's messages

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Dep. Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-04-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/23 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Admitted. (is that all I have to do, or do I actually have to post an updated version?) R2201 says you have to publish a revision (and in fact gives no legal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Dep. Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-04-23 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/24 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:                           C#    D#       F#    G#    A# Player                 C     D     E  F     G     A     B     Total                           Db    Eb       Gb    Ab    Bb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reserve Fora

2009-04-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/25 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:03, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to a reserve forum if all public fora are not functional, or sent to all players and

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2464 assigned to Murphy

2009-04-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/26 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com == CFJ 2464 == The PNP has more than one G# Note. I accept H. Conductor Tiger's interpretation of the PNP's message as until either half of a repetition fails rather than until a

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-04-26 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com Registrar's Census Date of last report: Sun, 19 Apr 09 Date of this report: Sun, 26 Apr 09 Date of last ratification: Fri, 04 Jul 08 Date of report last ratified: Sun, 29 Jun 08 (All times are UTC) Recent events - Mon, 13

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-04-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/27 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Could you please try to get this to make sense when read in the archives? It's easy for the ones reading their mail in variable width to change to set width

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Dep. Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-04-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/27 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: That report has since ratified, and I can't find the message were you supposedly changed it to A. I changed my Key on April 20, in the same message I published the NoVs against comex for failing to report on Notes. Ah

DIS: Re: BUS: New Contest: 3-Scroll Rodney

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: I agree to the following text: {{ 1. The Contract The name of this public contract is 3-Scroll Rodney. Any player CAN join or leave this contract by announcement. Any party CAN amend this contract without member objection. When this contract directs

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 comex com...@gmail.com: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: ais235                 3  3  3  5  8  5 19  0  3  2  2  2      55 I'm actually called ais523... Can I be ais238? I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6191 - 6195

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:17 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: Per CFJ 2450, I award 96+96i points to comex. Disclaimer: This message is an attempt to construct a paradox. Nothing here is definitely false; but it may be confusing. The following sentence is a Win

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist (AI = 1, II = 3) The Anarchist's proposals are rarely accepted. This proposal proposes two changes, both of which serve the purpose of having the Anarchist's proposals actually be accepted. First, the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Yally wrote: First, the Anarchist is given the power to select the rules e wishes to repeal rather than having to randomly select some (which will often net em with having rules that nobody wants to repeal). The whole point of the Anarchist is to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Proposal: Reworking the Anarchist

2009-04-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/28 Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: The Anarchist's proposals are rarely accepted. This proposal proposes two changes, both of which serve the purpose of

DIS: Who has gained points?

2009-05-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
I'm wondering about what constitutes gaining points for the purposes of gaining notes - when someone wins by high score all points are lowered, so that week almost noone has a net gain, but if it's instantaneous gains that are counted then two players who are not gaining points otherwise could

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] Periodic Election (Anarchist)

2009-05-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I nominate Tiger as Anarchist. I nominate myself. NttPF -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] Periodic Election (Anarchist)

2009-05-01 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/2 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I nominate Tiger

Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: Industrial Bank Agora

2009-05-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 comex com...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: comex wrote:   Repeats:   (a nonnegative integer, or infinity; default 1) [...] An Offer with zero Repeats is automatically destroyed. As was pointed out on IRC, this won't

DIS: Re: BUS: Instant rests considered harmful

2009-05-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: [Summary:  Each active non-scamster gets a bogus Rest, then the scamsters take turns being the sole active Rest-free player for Win by Solitude, then the bogus Rests are destroyed.] ais523, comex, and coppro have agreed to a private contract allowing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-05-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 Taral tar...@gmail.com: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I CFJ on the statement: * It is ILLEGAL to grant certain powers (in the ordinary-language sense) and privileges to Agora's ambassador if one is not a nomic. Clever. MAY vs may? I'd say it's not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recordkeepors' destruction power considered harmful

2009-05-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/2 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com: Geoffrey Spear wrote: I destroy all of the Ribbons in the possession of Murphy, ais523, coppro, and comex. IMPOSSIBLE. How? -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] guesses

2009-05-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/4 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 16:54, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I join the cookie jar and guess 15 proposals at 10 CFJs. I join cookie jar. I guess 18 proposals and 14 CFJs. BobTHJ I guess 10 proposals and 11 CFJs. -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-04 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/4 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 19:23, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: This report is governed by 3-Scroll Rodney, ac ontest. Full text is in the Notary's monthly report, though it may be slightly out of date. If you need to see the current text, contact me.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2477 assigned to Arnold Bros (est. 1905)

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I recuse myself. ==  CFJ 2477  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [AAA] Agriculture Report

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I harvest 2477 for Water Rights Vouchers. Fails, CFJ2477 was assigned its ID over a week ago (you're about 12 hours late) Oops. -- -Tiger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Promotions

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 00:52 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: I spend A C D to decrease Dvorak Herring's caste. Fails, those don't form a triad. (A minor triad, which you would need, is an interval of 3 semitones followed by an interval of 4 semitones. What you

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2495 assigned to Tiger

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Tiger wrote: I judge TRUE, publishing is clearly done by submitting them to a public forum. I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this.  On-time is arguably meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish the judgement.  (The

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2495 assigned to Tiger

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Tiger wrote: I judge TRUE, publishing is clearly done by submitting them to a public forum. I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this.  On-time is arguably meaningless outside the context of the player required to publish the judgement.  (The

DIS: Re: BUS: Nomic Wars - Contest

2009-05-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/5 Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:13, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I agree to Nomic Wars III. I flip the contestmaster of Nomic Wars III to BobTHJ. BobTHJ First you intend to do so, without 3 objections. Easier is perhaps to amend

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