DIS: Re: BUS: So I heard you were looking for more players

2018-05-24 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 24, 2018 9:46 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey <m...@timon.red> wrote: > I intend to register as a player at this time. I cause myself to receive a > Welcome Package. > > - twg

Re: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Agora and G. accumulate more wealth; zombies & public facilities bankrupt, as always

2018-06-11 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
y reaction. I give 2 incense to Corona. > > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > I Object to the intent. > > > > > > I Levy a fine of 2 Blots on Corona (Summary Judgement) for this > > > > > > abuse of offic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Got some new toys.

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
lf from a facility on a land unit > I'm on. Therefore, "that unit" should mean "the unit I'm on" since that's the > only option for transferring. Therefore, the attempt succeeds. > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 04:13 Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > >> On June 12,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Got some new toys.

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
interpreted as "not de minimis", and > > any asset loss is more than a minimal effect on my standing in the > > game. > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > I become a party to the contract "Sillyness by cont

DIS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions for June week 1

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Lovely. I pay 6 coins to Agora to transfer the land unit at (+5, 0) to myself. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 12, 2018 1:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > ​​ > > I resolve the land auctions as such (yes i know they should have ended > > last week, screw off): > > AUCTION 1 >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions for June week 3

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I bid 10 coins in auction 1. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 12, 2018 8:41 AM, Corona wrote: > ​​ > > I bid 11 coins in auction 3 and I bid 9 coins in auction 1. > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > I withdra

DIS: Re: BUS: Got some new toys.

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On June 12, 2018 8:25 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I destroy a coin to make (-2, -1) black and switch the alternating type. > > I transfer the mine on that unit's resources to myself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this fails, because (-2, -1) doesn't have a mine on it, and wasn't where

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?

2018-06-18 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
able 6: 13 incense. > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. > > (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more > > helpful if I'd w

DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?

2018-06-18 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
cilities) > > [Fri Mar 23 20:52] Reportor repealed by Proposal 8027 > > [Mon Mar 19 22:56] Corona transferred all currencies (3 stones, 2 ore) from > > 1,1 to Corona > > [Mon Mar 19 15:50] Murphy resolved the Rulekeepor election, no candidates > > [Mon Mar 19 15:50] Murphy r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] new layout with zombies separated - do you like it?

2018-06-18 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
; > On 6/18/2018 2:05 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > This time you gave yourself the 2 incense but didn't take it away from G. > > (I accept partial responsibility, since it would probably have been more > > helpful if I'd written "numbers" instead of "nu

DIS: Re: BUS: Election update

2018-06-18 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I vote [twg, ATMunn, Corona] in the Treasuror election and PRESENT in the Referee election. -twg ​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 17, 2018 6:55 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > ​​ > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee > > election. The vote collector is

DIS: Re: BUS: Pay Agora for your land units! (attn: Murphy, twg)

2018-06-13 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I was under the impression that, per rule 2551/1, paying for an auction lot is done by transferring the amount of the bid to the auctioneer (in this case, Agora), not by destroying the coins. I already did the former, here:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Got some new toys.

2018-06-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
quot;ey" (reflecting "he" and > > "she"), though you can, of course, use any pronouns you want. > > I favor the CFJ called by V.J. Rada in this thread. > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > I become a party to

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: [Assessor] Humiliations Galore

2018-06-13 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On June 13, 2018 7:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > So the second copy (sent to both BAK and BUS) came to both BAK and BUS, > > I got both copies. Then your reply to DIS came through. I replied to you > > in DIS, and my reply seems to have been eaten too. Also, the mailman web > > archives aren't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Sorry, was about to get around to responding to this chain. I have NOT received the email resolving proposals 8050-8052. It's not in my spam folder either. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > ​​ > > Poll: Who has and hasn't received

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I don't believe I've received this second attempt either. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior > > > > CFJ,

DIS: Re: BUS: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8050-8052 (second fwd)

2018-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Received -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 9:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > If I have not previous resolved decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052, > > I resolve them as indicated in the original message below. > > [Please confirm receipt, someone!] > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-17 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday to try and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the list at mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

DIS: "Corn" vs "coin"

2018-06-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Since we're talking about proposals that aren't in the SLR yet, I noticed this in the Consolidated Patch (proposal 8041): > Amend Rule 2003, Actions in Arcadia, by changing the text "substitute 3 > apples for 1 corn" to read "substitute 1 coin for three or fewer apples" Was the change from

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Q*Bert movement for June week 1

2018-06-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On June 1, 2018 1:06 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > - The message would be forwarded by you, but then there would need to be > > a way to verify not just that server message but also that you > > hadn't made any other similar requests. Thinking idly: A way

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: So I heard you were looking for more players

2018-06-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Sorry, forgot to reply to this! Yes, that works as a nickname. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 1:18 AM, Ned Strange wrote: > ​​ > > Welcome! I assume your nickname is twg? > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:46 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:

Re: DIS: Kenyon (Re: BUS: Missing Reports: Corona, Trigon, Kenyon, Murphy, V.J. Rada)

2018-06-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Of course, I mean "if e will react to this". Sorry. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 1, 2018 6:59 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > ​​ > > I wonder if he will react to this: > > I intend to cause the office of Rulekeepor to become vacant, without 2

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions for June week 1

2018-06-05 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I bid 6 coins in auction 2. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 5, 2018 4:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > I bid 8 coins in auction 1. -G. > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2018, C. V. wrote: > > > I bid 6 coins in auction 1. > > > > I bid 5 coins in auction 2. > > > > I bid 5 coins in

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Can I ask why the land auction was split into five originally? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, having it as one auction with five lots ensures that each lot goes to a different person, which makes it impossible for one person to monopolise land as Corona seems to be planning to do

DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie ribbons - I wonder if this works?

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I object. > > (Not that I disagree with the arguments, but that's a loophole that > > shouldn't be supported. We should definitely add "call a CFJ" to the > > list of things you can't have your zombie do). > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > If i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie ribbons - I wonder if this works?

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
:54 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > ​​ > > Side note: This message (from G.) is the only one I've received in this > thread. I didn't receive Aris's, or copies of my own, although I can see them > at mail-archive.com. > > -twg > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
It's not really my kind of thing but I'll certainly join in if it happens. I can't see any loopholes. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 29, 2018 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > So there were no comments on this is there interest? I have a few > > minor edits but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Facilities starting to proliferate again

2018-06-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
ought that would make > > the table of players less cluttered. If you're going to keep that layout, > > you might want to regularly check if any player's zombification status has > > changed. > > On Monday, June 25, 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Contract Competition: It's a subgame boiz!!!!!!

2018-06-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
: > ​​ > > TTttPF > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I withdraw my previous bid and instead bid 2 coins. > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:55 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@t

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
> Did you receive it directly from me or via discussion? > > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > Yes! What did you change? > > > >

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
asti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Did you receive it directly from me or via discussion? > > -- > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Timon Walshe

Re: DIS: Draft contract for playing chess on the map

2018-06-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Awesome, thanks for the feedback! On June 21, 2018 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Define who tracks these switches or are they untracked? (being the > recordkeepor for chess pieces doesn't mean recordkeepor for the switches). Ah, that's a misconception I hadn't realised I had - that switches are

Re: DIS: Draft contract for playing chess on the map

2018-06-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On June 23, 2018 10:07 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Ah, that's a misconception I hadn't realised I had - that switches are > necessarily tracked by the same person as their entities. Looking over this > that's actually the root cause of many of the other problems with this. I'l

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
gt; > > received this message? > > > > > > --- > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: >

Re: DIS: hmmm?

2018-06-24 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
; > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > > > > > > From: ATMunn iamingodsa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:09 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distrib

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8054-8057

2018-06-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Actually, I wonder if the problems mightn't run even deeper than that. I don't think "I do the same thing as the last X people in this thread" necessarily implies "I do the same thing as the last X people in this thread _did in this thread_". Aris, V.J. Rada and I have all previously performed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Feasible Victory & Better Auctions

2018-07-03 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
It's weird, I can't imagine how I would pronounce "SHA". I suspect the cause is just that I've only ever seen it written down and never actually spoken about it, so I've never _needed_ to pronounce it, but it's actually quite disturbing not being able to sound it in my head like with other

DIS: Draft contract for playing chess on the map

2018-06-21 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I hadn't really paid much attention to contracts before the discussion last week, but I figured it would be fun to enter V.J. Rada's competition, if only for practice with writing legalistic documents. (I get the impression that subgames like this are probably better suited to actual rules, or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: idk

2018-08-02 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Yes and yes, so unfortunately you can't start auctions by contract any more. Not that that would necessarily be the best method, anyway - I imagine you wouldn't have any use for the funds you'd collect. Perhaps some sort of lottery (making a pledge to choose the winner fairly)? If it helps, I

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder to Vote on Proposals 8077-8081

2018-08-02 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
ady voted. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:34 PM Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > Quorum on the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8077-8081 is 14.0, but > > there are only 6 valid ballo

Re: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8066-8077

2018-08-03 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Ah, I see the confusion now - this is in fact the previous batch of proposals (8066-8076, not 8077-8081). Sorry. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 3, 2018 10:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > AttPF > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Publius Scribonius

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions -- July week 4

2018-07-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Worth a try! I bid 118 coins in each of Auctions 2-5. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 29, 2018 9:03 PM, Corona wrote: > I bid 80 coins in each of Auctions 2-5. > > On Sunday, July 29, 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > I withdraw my bids on ea

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
NttPF, not that it actually makes any difference to anything now anyway. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 26, 2018 9:06 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I hereby ratify the following document, having received no objection, > as intended: > { > The quorum on each of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: removing a blot

2018-07-27 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
V.J. Rada didn't vote in the most recently resolved batch of proposals, and all the ones before that have self-ratified already, so there is no effect on proposals. Don't know what it means for officer elections, though - Murphy can probably say more definitively. -twg ‐‐‐ Original

DIS: Re: BUS: upkeep

2018-07-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Proposal 8072 changes processing facilities' upkeep costs from 3 coins to 3 steel. We really need a Rulekeepor, don't we. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 26, 2018 9:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I pay the following upkeep costs for the indicated facilities: > > > E (+3, -2)

DIS: Re: BUS: Revamping movement

2018-07-31 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Doesn't include G.'s land grants (proposal 8064). Also, may I suggest allowing people to destroy apples and corn to increase _any player's_ EP? Makes zombie movement less of a faff. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 31, 2018 11:16 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This is something

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Revamping movement

2018-08-04 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
s not staked a land > claim in the current month, and has not won a land auction in > the current or previous month. When e stakes a land claim, the > unit's land type is set to the land type of eir choice, then is > transferred to em, then e moves onto that unit. > > O

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Revamping movement

2018-08-04 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Sorry, only just noticed this - you changed "force-feed" to "feed" in one place but missed the other occurrence. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 4, 2018 5:16 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I feel I've given ample time to submit notes on this version. > > I withdraw my proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land auctions -- July week 4

2018-08-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 1, 2018 5:17 PM, Corona wrote: > Wait... aren't zombies banned from bidding? How does this work? > > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote: > > > On July 30, 2018 9:45 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey m.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] [RWO] Routine Worst-Case Cleanup

2018-08-08 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Actually, the previous batch was resolved _after_ this batch was distributed, so I believe quorum is only 5 at the moment. It will be higher (at least 7) when the current batch is resolved. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 8, 2018 7:51 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The old

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal vote

2018-08-13 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
In hindsight, I should have phrased that to say "the most recent Agoran Decisions to adopt each of proposals 8077-8081". Oh well. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 13, 2018 8:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I vote FOR proposal 8085.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Distribution of Proposals 8077A-8088

2018-08-13 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I noticed that too. I rather suspect that, in a previous iteration of the rules, gratuitous arguments were something the rules said people COULD submit; and the old-timers are all used to that system and send them to the public forum by force of habit. I don't have any arguments to add myself.

DIS: Re: BUS: Case Assignment Request

2018-08-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
If you wait another ~24 hours to assign a judgement, the last Treasuror report will self-ratify your facilities into existence regardless of the outcome of the case, and you won't have a conflict of interest any more. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 12, 2018 7:20 AM, Aris

DIS: Fw: Re: BUS: Case Assignment Request

2018-08-12 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
This time, not only did I not get the confirmation email, but it hasn't shown up on mail-archive.com either... Hmm. Please confirm if you receive this via DIS (I'm sending it directly to Aris as well). -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 12, 2018 8:08 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft Report

2018-08-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
In the full-text-of-proposals section, proposal 8085's title is incorrect. Also, you missed the proposal Kenyon submitted here: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg32486.html Otherwise, it looks good to me! -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 10, 2018

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Pool Cleanup

2018-08-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Sorry. I did mean to go over these again but haven't got around to it yet. If I were to resubmit them they would probably have slightly amended text anyway. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 10, 2018 5:41 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > As Promotor, I remove the following

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Even Freer Proposals

2018-08-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Yeah, even worse, I've found myself panicking because I _haven't_ counted the proposals I'm pending and can't remember how many I have left. (This was another reason for submitting things via Kenyon.) I would vote FOR this in its current state, but I would prefer it if the class of the crime

Re: DIS: Land Win Condition

2018-08-20 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
. Of course, I suppose we could always remove the definition as a switch for now, for simplicity, and re-add it in the event that such an occasion does arise. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 20, 2018 3:10 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 20:29 +0000, Timon Wal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8077A-8088

2018-08-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Thank you! However, your attempt to vote PRESENT on proposal 8086 is INEFFECTIVE because proposal 8086 never existed due to a mistake in a Promotor report. Its replacement is proposal 8089. Quorum update: ID Voting endsTitleUnder quorum

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8077A-8088

2018-08-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Thank you! However, your attempt to vote PRESENT on proposal 8086 is INEFFECTIVE because proposal 8086 never existed due to a mistake in a Promotor report. Its replacement is proposal 8089. Quorum update: ID Voting endsTitleUnder quorum

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8077-8085, 8088 and 8087

2018-08-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
y sensible - imagine if there were two simultaneous votes on the same proposal and they had different results!), not that it could only be redistributed once ever. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 25, 2018 10:45 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I resolve the most recent Agoran Decis

Re: DIS: Hello

2018-08-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
That seems like a precedent with an interesting story behind it. What happened? -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 25, 2018 5:47 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:36 PM Alex Smith ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 22:30 -0700, Aris

Re: DIS: Hello

2018-08-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
There's a far more straightforward argument for this not working as a registration message: it was sent to agora-discussion, which is not a public forum. (Though I admit I did check the most recent Registrar report on agora-official to check that G. hadn't sneakily reclassified it as a public

Re: DIS: Come get your rulesets here!

2018-08-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I've been looking into the possibility of taking over Rulekeepor, in the absence of any other willing candidate, and have been looking through your ruleset generation system. One thing I'd like to ask (to everyone, not just you) is whether the inclusion of major CFJs in the Full Logical

Re: DIS: Come get your rulesets here!

2018-08-25 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
about CFJs to do so. >> >> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 16:22 Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: >> >>> I've been looking into the possibility of taking over Rulekeepor, in the >>> absence of any other willing candidate, and have been looking through your >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: Honor Where Honor is Due

2018-08-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I suppose I could do the second one for you via Kenyon, but that's a bit exploitative of the zombie rules, even for me. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 19, 2018 6:24 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Notice of Honor: > -1 to Aris, for making many errors in the last PDP > +1 to

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder to Vote in Proposals 8077-8085 and 8087-8088

2018-08-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
al Message ‐‐‐ On August 19, 2018 8:35 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Blah blah blah, you know the drill. Proposals 8077-8088, except proposal 8086 > (which apparently doesn't exist), are one or two votes short of quorum and the > following slackers haven't voted on them yet:

Re: DIS: Land Win Condition

2018-08-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I have been drafting a proto. I haven't finished it yet, but this is the main part: // Enact a rule "Land Prestige", of power 2.0, with the following text: Land Prestige is an integer person switch tracked by the Herald.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8089

2018-08-27 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
vote as e was not a player > when the decision was distributed (R683). > > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > Thank you everyone, we do now have enough votes to pass quorum. > > However, I will hold off on actually resolving the decision until Aris has > &

Re: DIS: Come get your rulesets here!

2018-08-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
> https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/ > > But updating those in the FLR is definitely an optional extra. Very much > > optional. > > On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > > I've been looking into the possibility of taking over Ru

DIS: Re: BUS: There's always something we miss

2018-08-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
; else in the Rules, but, under R217, such an absurdity affords no reason to > ignore the text of R2499. > > (Am I doing this right? :-) ) > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 6:34 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > >> I submit and pend the following proposal: >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8089

2018-08-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Thank you everyone, we do now have enough votes to pass quorum. However, I will hold off on actually resolving the decision until Aris has done the next distribution, because otherwise quorum for _that_ distribution will rise again. And I think we've had more than enough quorum troubles

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intention to deputise without portfolio

2018-07-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
; > semi-active players don't tend to like having their offices suddenly > > taken from them, even if they were late on reports, and this has > > caused some disputes in the past, of the meta/people actually got > > upset variety. Just a friendly warning. > > -Aris >

Re: DIS: Fwd: [AgoraNomic/Library] Page build failure

2018-07-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I've actually been having intermittent problems connecting to GitHub at all, so my guess would be a temporary glitch or DoS attack or something on their end. I certainly can't see any problems with your markup. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 16, 2018 5:53 PM, Publius

DIS: Re: BUS: Election update

2018-07-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I vote [Aris, Corona] in the ongoing Prime Minister election. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 15, 2018 5:50 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > ​​ > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister > > election. The vote collector is the ADoP (me), the

DIS: Re: BUS: Some boring proposals

2018-07-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
-Aris > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 3:21 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > I submit the following proposals. I pend the proposal "Patchy McPatchface". > > > > I do also intend to pend the two "From each according to eir means" > > proposals, > &

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
s now are valid if and only if the voting period has been > > extended, so their validity for determining quorum in the next batch will be > > uncertain... > > (Personally I'm abstaining on purpose so I'm decidedly not humiliated). > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Timon Walshe-

Re: DIS: BUS broke for me now

2018-07-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
You're right, I didn't see that rule. (It didn't contain any of my search terms - "Assessor", "ratification", "resolution".) Sorry. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 19, 2018 4:18 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > ​​ > > On Thu, 2018-07-19

Re: DIS: BUS broke for me now

2018-07-19 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Well, in this case I think it's irrelevant; the message in which the Assessor resolves decisions on proposals isn't defined as a _report_, so "CoEs" against it are informal anyway. But I agree it's something that needs clarifying. Looking at rule 208, I believe the only question is whether you

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Steel Based Manufacturing

2018-07-14 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I suggest adding also "Create 5 steel in the possession of every player who is not eligible for a Welcome Package." -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 14, 2018 7:04 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > ​​ > > I retract "Steel Based Manufacturing", and submit the following. > > -Aris >

DIS: Re: BUS: UNIX philosophy for proposals

2018-07-14 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On July 13, 2018 10:00 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > While this does technically bring everyone closer to the same amount of > > money, I'm not sure this is the best way to do it. This also doesn't fix > > the gap in land ownership. I really think we need to do a map reset to > > achieve maximum

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: UNIX philosophy for proposals

2018-07-14 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On July 14, 2018 9:44 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Title: Frankenstein's land auctions Side note, do people approve of the whimsical proposal names? I can switch to more functional names if you like, it just seemed a little more... ah... nomic-esque. -twg

Re: Agora blacklisted (Re: DIS: My agora email keeps breaking)

2018-07-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Aris pended the proposals in the same message as eir Promotor report, which may be why you can't find them in the archives. Just for once, I'm actually not missing any emails, which is nice but sadly doesn't help solve the problem. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 16, 2018

DIS: Test (not a report)

2018-07-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I figured it might be interesting to see whether Unicode box-drawing characters actually have wide support these days. How does it look to the rest of you? -twg ┌─┬┬┬┬┬┬┬┬┬┬┐ │Entity │Ston│Appl│Corn│

Re: DIS: Test (not a report)

2018-07-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
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DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder to Vote on Proposal 8089

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Reminder: We still need one more vote on this before tomorrow morning, since G. correctly pointed out that D. Margaux's vote doesn't count. Trigon, please remember we've established that you have a zombie (Quazie). -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 26, 2018 3:04 PM, Timon Walshe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Old censer found down back of sofa, incense reintroduced to economy

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
stones for orchard at (2,-2) > 3 steel for loom at (3,1) > 1 lumber and 1 stone for farm at (1, -2) > 2 lumber for orchard at (-2,0) > 2 stones for mine at (-3,0) > 4 stones for orchard at (-4,0) > 4 stones for orchard at (-5,0) > > ~Corona > > On Mon, Aug 2

DIS: Re: BUS: End-of-month business

2018-09-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
gt; > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge "Badge of Accidental Loom > > Destruction" to myself, Trigon and Corona. I find it an extraordinary > > coincidence that three players have managed to ac

DIS: Re: BUS: Some moves and such

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:48, D Margaux wrote: > I cause nichdel pay 3 apples to stake a land claim to (-3, 1) with > land type Black. > > I cause nichdel to transfer the land at (-3, 1) to D. Margaux. > > I cause nichdel to pay 1 apple to move to (-2, 1). These three actions fail; zombies

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
and then immediately resign as Rulekeepor, but I'm not entirely clear whether that would work to relieve me of the obligation to publish the FLR too. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:03, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, Timon Walshe-G

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft Report

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I make quorum 4. Voters on proposal 8089 were Aris, G., Murphy, Trigon, twg and Kenyon, making 6 valid ballots. Also, Aris, it would be helpful if you could redistribute proposals 8082-8089, except 8086 which doesn't exist. (8077A-8081A haven't met quorum yet either, but the CFJ on whether you

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft Report

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
TTttDF -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, 10 September 2018 00:46, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Crap, you're right. I even wrote the resolution message, just never clicked > send. My bad. > > -twg > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Monday, 10 Septe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- September week 2

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Monday, 10 September 2018 03:28, Reuben Staley wrote: > Second one is denied since it was already white when you tried to turn it > gray and therefore INEFFECTIVE. I don't believe that matters? Rule 2003 says: 3. 2 apples to set Land Type of a Land Unit which e owns to any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- September week 2

2018-09-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I mean, at least you're not the one who turned your loom into some sort of weird monument-like thing... -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, 10 September 2018 03:38, Reuben Staley wrote: > Understood. Boy do I hate being wrong. > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018, 21:37 Timon Wa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land Auctions for July week 1

2018-07-05 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I actually think it would be more frustrating to carry out the reforms _without_ a reset, because the reforms might ruin plans people had been forming or make their previous facility setup suboptimal. Someone (I think it was G.?) said a few days ago that e'd stop playing if the reforms passed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2018-07-08 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
It's rule 1006, "Offices", that says Officeholder is a switch, and it's rule 2162, "Switches", that (indirectly) says it's not. Rule 1030, "Precedence between Rules", gives a handy algorithm for resolving contradictions between rules: - Compare their powers (Not useful, they're both power 2.0)

DIS: Re: BUS: back to basics - this time with zombies

2018-07-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I like this system. More incentive to create proposals can't be a bad thing. As regards fixing the rejection penalty to always be positive, I feel like it would be more elegant to take adoption index directly into account instead of just specifying a minimum penalty. Something like (AGAINST *

Re: DIS: Poll: Agoran MU*

2018-07-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
1) Yes, it sounds interesting in principle. Then again, I said that about the birthday tournament as well, and didn't feel like playing in the event. 2) Yes, but I can't promise to devote a great deal of time to it. Also, I don't have much experience with Python. 3) Yes. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2018-07-09 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Something something black kettle... -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 9, 2018 7:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > Note there were some land bids placed at the end of this report. > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Herald’s Weekly report > > > > [snip] > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: still gonna try

2018-07-10 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Fails; you need to transfer the fabric from the loom to yourself first. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 10, 2018 6:52 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > ​​ > > I transfer all the fabric I have to G.. > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 15:37 Reuben Staley reuben.sta...@gmail.com wrote: > > >

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