Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread Kerim Aydin

On 1/29/2019 7:09 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

One of my favourite AWJ entries:


  THE AGORAN WEEKLY JOURNAL
  VOLUME 51, BACK ISSUE 3
  Sunday, December 31, 2006



December 15:  Goethe publishes a Cantus Cygneus.  This triggers a
   CFJ on whether e can be deregistered for it (the Writ of FAGE
   procedure involves the no-longer-defined Registrar).  CotC Murphy
   ends up getting a win by paradox out of it:

   * CFJ assigned to Goethe
   * Writ of FAGE procedure attempted
   * CFJ allegedly assigned to Goethe
   * Goethe judges FALSE, implying that e is not the judge
   * Sherlock judges TRUE, implying that e is not the judge


Oooh I'd forgotten that one.  As a postscript, I remember arguing that
neither of our "CFJ judgements" could be be reconsidered, because it wasn't
possible to clearly specify which one was the actual judgement when
announcing intent to reconsider.

-G. (formerly Goethe)



Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread Madeline
Glad this isn't going completely to waste, generating outrage on demand 
is hard!
Hi though, I'll probably hop back in for real once the whole FAGE thing 
gets sorted out.
(I actually happened to go through the NetHack TAS turn-by-turn report 
yesterday which never ceases to be hilarious, so I guess we're even?)


On 2019-01-30 02:03, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:

On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 01:58 +1100, Telnaior wrote:

Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister
by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could
come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets
me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually
bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)

Please nobody ever close this loophole. It only gets used once every
few years and the results always seem to be hilarious.





Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
One of my favourite AWJ entries:

>  THE AGORAN WEEKLY JOURNAL
>  VOLUME 51, BACK ISSUE 3
>  Sunday, December 31, 2006

> December 15:  Goethe publishes a Cantus Cygneus.  This triggers a
>   CFJ on whether e can be deregistered for it (the Writ of FAGE
>   procedure involves the no-longer-defined Registrar).  CotC Murphy
>   ends up getting a win by paradox out of it:
>
>   * CFJ assigned to Goethe
>   * Writ of FAGE procedure attempted
>   * CFJ allegedly assigned to Goethe
>   * Goethe judges FALSE, implying that e is not the judge
>   * Sherlock judges TRUE, implying that e is not the judge

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 3:03 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk 
 wrote:

> On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 01:58 +1100, Telnaior wrote:
>
> > Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister
> > by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could
> > come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets
> > me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually
> > bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)
>
> Please nobody ever close this loophole. It only gets used once every
> few years and the results always seem to be hilarious.
>
> --
>
> ais523




Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 01:58 +1100, Telnaior wrote:
> Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister 
> by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could 
> come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets 
> me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually 
> bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)

Please nobody ever close this loophole. It only gets used once every
few years and the results always seem to be hilarious.

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread Madeline

:(

On 2019-01-30 02:00, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

Actually, the Registrar did deregister you a couple of weeks ago. There just 
hasn't been a report since then.

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 2:58 PM, Telnaior  wrote:


The following is my Cantus Cygneus, to be published by the Registrar in
a timely fashion:

Alright, so let's get one thing straight here. I haven't actually been
playing this game in MONTHS. Yeah, sure, the whole zombie system has
been keeping me alive for a little while, but did you notice my resale
value is 0 now? I'm so dramatically rotted away that you can't even use
me for anything! And despite that, I'm still on the Directory,
registered as a player.

Wait, what's that? The rules say the Registrar SHALL try to deregister
me every month I haven't been active? Huh, can you believe that this
hasn't been happening in direct violation of the rules, even when my
resale was already 0? Can you believe the former Registrar outright
resigned instead in order to shirk eir duty? Can you believe, even
though literally ANYONE here could deregister me with mere notice at
this point, no one actually has? Here I was hoping to come back with the
obligatory "am I a player" CFJ, only to find out that I'm still a
player! It's ridiculous, and it's not even funny.

Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister
by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could
come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets
me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually
bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)

Are we clear? Good. You're lucky I didn't throw in a couple of
paragraphs from the Automatic Complaint Letter Generator, this situation
feels so absurd that you all probably deserve it. >:(






Re: DIS: Cantus Cygneus

2019-01-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Actually, the Registrar did deregister you a couple of weeks ago. There just 
hasn't been a report since then.

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 2:58 PM, Telnaior  wrote:

> The following is my Cantus Cygneus, to be published by the Registrar in
> a timely fashion:
>
> Alright, so let's get one thing straight here. I haven't actually been
> playing this game in MONTHS. Yeah, sure, the whole zombie system has
> been keeping me alive for a little while, but did you notice my resale
> value is 0 now? I'm so dramatically rotted away that you can't even use
> me for anything! And despite that, I'm still on the Directory,
> registered as a player.
>
> Wait, what's that? The rules say the Registrar SHALL try to deregister
> me every month I haven't been active? Huh, can you believe that this
> hasn't been happening in direct violation of the rules, even when my
> resale was already 0? Can you believe the former Registrar outright
> resigned instead in order to shirk eir duty? Can you believe, even
> though literally ANYONE here could deregister me with mere notice at
> this point, no one actually has? Here I was hoping to come back with the
> obligatory "am I a player" CFJ, only to find out that I'm still a
> player! It's ridiculous, and it's not even funny.
>
> Honestly, this makes me mad. Doubly mad because if I were to deregister
> by announcement, I'd have to wait around a full month before I could
> come back. So let's do it this way - it gets the point across and lets
> me skip the timer (at least as long as the current Registrar actually
> bothers to do their job and not flagrantly violate the rules for once)
>
> Are we clear? Good. You're lucky I didn't throw in a couple of
> paragraphs from the Automatic Complaint Letter Generator, this situation
> feels so absurd that you all probably deserve it. >:(