On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 19:36, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal: May I please have another?
(AI = 1.5, please)
Amend Rule 1871 (The Standing Court) by appending this text:
A player who recuses emself
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote:
Or better yet, let potential judges select the cases they wish to
judge through some suitable system and eliminate most all recusals. I
proposed this at one point but it was shot down.
It seems to me that the best judicial
Taral wrote:
The appeals court has remanded this case to me without significant
comment for, I assume, a clarification of my reasoning behind my
judgement.
Upon further review, I think the appellants (me included) were
confused, pointing out CFJ 2459 which hinged on a technicality
that does
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 11:27 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:22, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
I hereby explicitly, willfully refuse to become party to the PerlNomic
Partnership agreement until such time as I may activate myself in
PerlNomic or perform another action
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:36 -0400, comex wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal: May I please have another?
(AI = 1.5, please)
Amend Rule 1871 (The Standing Court) by appending this text:
A player who recuses emself without cause
Were I the registrar, I would publish the following:
Registrar's Census
Date of last report: Wed 29 Apr 09
Date of this report: Fru 1 May 09
Date of last ratification: Fri 4 Jul 08
Date of report last ratified: Sun 29 Jun 08
(All times are UTC)
Recent events
-
Wed 22 Apr 10:34
Incomplete watchers list :(
2009/5/1 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com:
Were I the registrar, I would publish the following:
Registrar's Census
Date of last report: Wed 29 Apr 09
Date of this report: Fru 1 May 09
Date of last ratification: Fri 4 Jul 08
Date of report last ratified: Sun
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Incomplete watchers list :(
Well, it's based on the last Registrar's Report. I'd be happy to
reconstruct the list from the old one.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:36 -0400, comex wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal: May I please have another?
(AI = 1.5, please)
Amend Rule 1871 (The Standing Court) by
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
Or maybe, have a system under which people could pre-recuse themselves
from specific cases, so they couldn't be assigned them. (Different
people have different opinions on which cases are difficult; personally,
I don't think
Quazie wrote:
I submit a proposal, entitled Interesting Recusals - CotC AI = 1.5
with the following body.
Replace the following paragraph from R 2225
When a player recuses emself from a judicial case whose interest
index equals eir rank, e CAN increase its interest index by 1
I apologize for being late on this -- it's a very complex issue and
I'm very busy IRL at the same time...
--
Taral tar...@gmail.com
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:36 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
Self-recusals are already annoying and a waste of the judicial
system's time; I'd prefer if the reasons people recuse themselves
could be eliminated. Proto: add new postures for players who want
some cases but not many. Perhaps
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:15, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
Judges used to be able to make themselves ineligible to judge specific
cases or classes of cases by announcement (including the class of all
cases; this was the
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I submit the following proposal (titled Ease the rush, AI 2, II 1):
Remove the text
{{{
unless another player has already done so
during that Birthday.
}}}
from rule 2126.
Arguments: Loads of
Taral wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:36 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
Self-recusals are already annoying and a waste of the judicial
system's time; I'd prefer if the reasons people recuse themselves
could be eliminated. Proto: add new postures for players who want
some cases but not
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Manuel Lanctot sen...@gmail.com wrote:
I register.
Welcome back!
-root
I'm wondering about what constitutes gaining points for the purposes
of gaining notes - when someone wins by high score all points are
lowered, so that week almost noone has a net gain, but if it's
instantaneous gains that are counted then two players who are not
gaining points otherwise could
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 16:59 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein
aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
I initiate an Agoran decision to choose the holder of the Registrar
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Incomplete watchers list :(
Well, it's based on the last Registrar's Report. I'd be happy to
reconstruct the list from the old one.
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 23:19 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
I'm wondering about what constitutes gaining points for the purposes
of gaining notes - when someone wins by high score all points are
lowered, so that week almost noone has a net gain, but if it's
instantaneous gains that are counted
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 17:44 -0400, comex wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay. I terminate the pledge I just made about giving points for
points (if I can).
Points are also a fixed currency, so you can't transfer them.
You can, but
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
Welcome to Agora, Manu. Is there any nickname you would like to use?
Clearly, he wants to be known as Melbourne.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll vote FOR a proposal like this if it would also repeal notes and
replace them with something new and interesting the day after.
Rough proto for a new economy. Comments?
Retitle Rule 2126 as Shares and amend it to
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Manuel Lanctot sen...@gmail.com wrote:
I register.
~Manu
Welcome to Agora, Manu. Is there any nickname you would like to use?
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay. I terminate the pledge I just made about giving points for
points (if I can).
Points are also a fixed currency, so you can't transfer them.
Gaining assets is explicitly defined, transfers don't count.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 23:19 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
I'm wondering about what constitutes gaining points for the purposes
of gaining notes -
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 14:46, Manuel Lanctot sen...@gmail.com wrote:
I register.
~Manu
Welcome back!
BobTHJ
2009/5/1 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
I don't see how those players not listed can be considered watchers.
They didn't even respond to an email I sent asking if they are
watching the game. And Wooble, if you do become registrar and do
decide to list those players who did not respond
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
(8) A player CAN spend share value 25 to split eir shares; eir
share price index is halved (rounded down), and for each
share of eir issue, an additional share of eir issue is
created in the
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 16:21 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
An entity's share price index is a non-negative integer,
defaulting to 0. If an entity's share price index would become
a negative value, it becomes 0.
Attaching a tracked value to everything in existence is another mistake
2009/5/1 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
Per discussion on ##nomic:
I submit the following proposal (AI 1, II 1, Title=Counter-Invasion):
Create a new power-1 rule with the following text:
{{{
Persons SHALL NOT join Agora for the primary purpose of invading or
waging war against it,
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 16:21 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
An entity's share price index is a non-negative integer,
defaulting to 0. If an entity's share price index would become
a negative value, it becomes 0.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
Rulekeepor comex 25 Apr 09 20 Apr 09 2
CoE: The II of the Rulekeepor office is 3.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 16:21 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
An entity's share price index is a non-negative integer,
defaulting to 0. If an entity's share price index would become
a negative value, it becomes 0.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
--
SpeakerMurphy ??? 1
since 6 April, I believe.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't see how those players not listed can be considered watchers.
They didn't even respond to an email I sent asking if they are
watching the game.
Proposal 5211, to remove people not paying attention from the
Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
I nominate Tiger as Anarchist.
I nominate myself.
2009/5/2 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
I nominate Tiger as Anarchist.
I nominate myself.
NttPF
--
-Tiger
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/2 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
I nominate Tiger as Anarchist.
I nominate myself.
NttPF
--
-Tiger
2009/5/2 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/2 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
I nominate Tiger as
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
Per discussion on ##nomic:
I submit the following proposal (AI 1, II 1, Title=Counter-Invasion):
Create a new power-1 rule with the following text:
{{{
Persons SHALL NOT join Agora for the primary purpose of invading
The PBA, RBoA, and both Vote Markets are dead, which has made the
economy a lot less interesting. This is a draft for a replacement,
which allows regular banking, trade offers, and vote selling. Rates
are manually set by the President (me) without two objections, and
would be updated on a
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
Zing! Vext cwm fly jabs Kurd qoph
Will we all get to learn what the Clues were?
Elliott Hird wrote:
2009/5/1 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
{{{
Persons SHALL NOT join Agora for the primary purpose of invading or
waging war against it, rather than participating in it in a constructive
manner. This is the Class-12 Crime of Treason.
}}}
AGAINST; waaay too
Taral wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Define plz? The last time I attempted to guess what you meant, we
went from 1871/10 (Turns for All) to 1871/11 (The Standing Court
aka Turns for All Volunteers), but you said that wasn't it.
A standing
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
Elliott Hird wrote:
2009/5/1 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
{{{
Persons SHALL NOT join Agora for the primary purpose of invading or
waging war against it, rather than participating in it in a constructive
manner. This is the Class-12 Crime of Treason.
}}}
AGAINST;
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
Elliott Hird wrote:
2009/5/1 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
{{{
Persons SHALL NOT join Agora for the primary purpose of invading or
waging war against it, rather than participating in it in a
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two separate methods by
which the Agoran Senate can recover Agora from an invasion by reducing
every invader's voting limit to 0. Once this is done, it's simple to
pass a proposal exiling the
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two separate methods by
which the Agoran Senate can recover Agora from an invasion by reducing
every invader's voting limit to 0. Once this is done, it's simple to
pass a
ais523 wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 17:44 -0400, comex wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay. I terminate the pledge I just made about giving points for
points (if I can).
Points are also a fixed currency, so you can't transfer them.
Add auto rates and I'm sold.
Sent from a sentient banana
On 2009-05-02, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
The PBA, RBoA, and both Vote Markets are dead, which has made the
economy a lot less interesting. This is a draft for a replacement,
which allows regular banking, trade offers, and vote
Bad Promotor! You're meant to make it hard for scammers...
On 2009-05-02, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree to the following:
{{
This is a pledge entitled Security Clearance.
This pledge imposes no duties on anyone unless coppro is Promotor. If e
is not, e may amend this pledge by
Elliott Hird wrote:
Bad Promotor! You're meant to make it hard for scammers...
It does!
coppro wrote:
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two separate methods by
which the Agoran Senate can recover Agora from an invasion by reducing
every invader's voting limit to 0. Once this is done, it's
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Benjamin Caplan
celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:
Edna is a professor of law, and decides to teach a course on nomic. She
requires her students to register in Agora and submit a quota of
proposals each week. Alice is one of her TAs. The students tend strongly
Ed Murphy wrote:
coppro wrote:
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
There's another (scammy) means by which an invasion can be prevented
from making changes, but it would result in an effective stalemate in Agora.
What do you have in mind? Bear in mind that the invaders can deputise
for the Assessor.
On May 1, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I intend, without objection, to flip the Recognition of Internomic II
http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ to Neutral.
I intend, without objection, to flip the Recognition of Fresh Nomic
http://groups.google.com/group/fresh-nomic to
Ed Murphy wrote:
coppro wrote:
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two separate methods by
which the Agoran Senate can recover Agora from an invasion by reducing
every invader's voting limit to 0. Once
comex wrote:
Repeats: (a nonnegative integer, or infinity; default 1)
[...]
An Offer with zero Repeats is automatically destroyed.
As was pointed out on IRC, this won't ever happen. Try When an Offer
with one Repeat is filled, instead of its 'Repeats' field being
decreased, the Offer is
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I just realized that one of the voting-limit 0 methods (which
basically involves the Grand Poobah pulling out a very illegal but very
valid machine gun) doesn't rely on the Senate.
Surely this only works on ordinary
Benjamin Caplan wrote:
[These estimates assume that the PNP's report on April 20 was correct,
and that the only changes to that state between then and the beginning
of this message were the automatic adjustments on April 27.]
Pavitra
I don't believe they were.
comex wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I just realized that one of the voting-limit 0 methods (which
basically involves the Grand Poobah pulling out a very illegal but very
valid machine gun) doesn't rely on the Senate.
Surely this only
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Benjamin Caplan
celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:
comex wrote:
Repeats: (a nonnegative integer, or infinity; default 1)
[...]
An Offer with zero Repeats is automatically destroyed.
As was pointed out on IRC, this won't ever happen. Try When an Offer
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Elliott Hird wrote:
Bad Promotor! You're meant to make it hard for scammers...
It does!
how?
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Elliott Hird wrote:
Bad Promotor! You're meant to make it hard for scammers...
It does!
how?
By preventing people from piling on top of an existing scam. This makes
it easier for the original people to
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Benjamin Caplan
celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote:
I come off hold.
All actions in this message are to be taken as maximally severable.
I have 428 Coins.
I withdraw from the PBA a 1 crop and a 3 crop [for 193+185 = 378 Coins.]
Murphy has 4229 Coins.
I
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
comex wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I just realized that one of the voting-limit 0 methods (which
basically involves the Grand Poobah pulling out a very illegal but very
coppro wrote:
Actually, I just realized that one of the voting-limit 0 methods (which
basically involves the Grand Poobah pulling out a very illegal but very
valid machine gun) doesn't rely on the Senate.
Doesn't stop the invaders from democratizing the invasion proposal.
coppro wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Elliott Hird wrote:
Bad Promotor! You're meant to make it hard for scammers...
It does!
how?
By preventing people from piling on top of an existing scam. This makes
it easier for the
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
And that's different from the set of standing/sitting players how?
Because the set of standing/sitting players changes constantly. The
standing court is changed periodically, probably on the scale of
months.
--
Taral
Any thoughts on testing any plans? Either for real, by telling /b/
about Agora, or simulation (let several players control 1,000
first-class players, and a way to guard against the fallout when the
simulation ends).
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