Re: DIS: Would I be an Elder if I registered?

2013-07-09 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I meant buggy requirement as a hypothetical in my quote (as in, satisfies the requirement if it's bugged). FWIW, I meant omd's interpretation when I wrote the rule originally. Not that that really counts for anything. (And not that either interpretation is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3362 assigned to G.

2013-07-09 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote: Generally I don't think it's true the meta-agreement is subject to amendment by even true nomic. There are still limits. What if we made Agora purport to be played by the NZ All Blacks? This would paralyze the rule until

DIS: Re: BUS: My First CFJ

2013-07-09 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, omd wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Lindar Greenwood lindartheb...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate a CFJ on the following: The common vernacular for someone who does something is Xor, where a Xor Xes. By rule 2408 the 'recordkeepor' is the title for one who keeps

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3362 assigned to G.

2013-07-09 Thread Fool
On 09/07/2013 5:46 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote: Generally I don't think it's true the meta-agreement is subject to amendment by even true nomic. There are still limits. What if we made Agora purport to be played by the NZ All

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My First CFJ

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Ørjan Johansen wrote: Also, the capitalization customs have changed greatly, in earlier periods it was almost mandatory to capitalize nearly every Agora-specific term. Although this had already been reduced last I was a Player. Maud went on a purposeful massive

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Interior Decorations

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Ribbon Holdings === ok, is this repealed, or isn't it. I've completely lost track.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3362 assigned to G.

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 20:50 -0400, Fool wrote (about CFJ 3362): Therefore I intend, with two support (and without five Elder objections) to appeal. I call on the appellate court to substitute a verdict of GUILTY, and suggest the death penalty. I

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Interior Decorations

2013-07-09 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Ribbon Holdings === ok, is this repealed, or isn't it. I've completely lost track. Me too. I posted for safety's sake. -scshunt

Re: DIS: Would I be an Elder if I registered?

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 9 Jul 2013 10:44, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I meant buggy requirement as a hypothetical in my quote (as in, satisfies the requirement if it's bugged). FWIW, I meant omd's interpretation when I wrote the rule originally. Not that that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3362 assigned to G.

2013-07-09 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I support. I object. (Always wanted to do that and have it be meaningful.) It's not though... you CANNOT wear two hats :-P Pfff. Look, everyone, seems like G. is *poor* and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3362 assigned to G.

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote: I support. I object. (Always wanted to do that and have it be meaningful.) It's not though... you CANNOT wear two hats :-P

DIS: Re: OFF: [Returning Officer] General Election

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Charles Walker wrote: (Apologies for the lateness; I meant to do this earlier and got distracted. Incidentally, does anyone else think the salary rule is a little harsh?) That's exactly why I resigned my offices last month, just the cost/benefit analysis of that,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Returning Officer] General Election

2013-07-09 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I vote for omd. I vote for myself. Campaign Speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxBW4mPzv6E

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Rule 2394

2013-07-09 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Lindar Greenwood lindartheb...@gmail.com wrote: I announce a CFJ on the following text: { Announcing in Agora-Business the creation of a promise that, upon being cashed, causes the player cashing said promise to break a rule, does not cause the creator of said

DIS: Re: BUS: A belated Happy Birthday!

2013-07-09 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Chuck Carroll games...@chuckcarroll.orgwrote: A belated happy 20th birthday to Agora, and wishing you many more! And thanks to all the current Players for keeping Agora alive! Sorry I couldn’t send my wishes during the Birthday proper; I was travelling and

Re: DIS: scshunt, walker, feel free...

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 8 Jul 2013, at 20:33, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I'm not going to get around to proposing infractions or ribbon changes anytime soon, if interested parties want to move ahead with that. -g. Will be looking at doing these in a few weeks. -- Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Personnel File Time Sheet

2013-07-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 9 Jul 2013, at 22:08, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 Jul 2013, at 18:12, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: All office-holders are currently Independent. I CoE this. --

DIS: Re: BUS: I preate a cromise.

2013-07-09 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Lindar Greenwood wrote: The condition for cashing this promise is the following text, where [Q] is a player other than myself or the player cashing this promise and [N] is the player cashing this promise: { [Q] must exchange with me a majority of eir trading cards,

DIS: Re: BUS: I preate a cromise.

2013-07-09 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Lindar Greenwood lindartheb...@gmail.com wrote: I create a promise with the following text, where [N] is representative of the player cashing this promise: You would have to put this condition into the text of the promise as once created the promise is a text

DIS: Elder CFJ out there already?

2013-07-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
Is there already a CFJ on whether there's a 4-day wait for support actions in the Gerontocracy? R2357 doesn't actually *say* that elder objections make it a w/o objection dependent action with an associated 4-day wait, just that if an intent happens to have enough elder objections, it fails.

DIS: Re: BUS: Lindar Sits

2013-07-09 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
That's a shame, I didn't even get a chance to assign a case to you. =P ~ Roujo On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Lindar Greenwood lindartheb...@gmail.com wrote: I lean.

Re: DIS: Elder CFJ out there already?

2013-07-09 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
There is, CFJ 3361, assigned to arkestra at the moment. More info: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3361 ~ Roujo On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Is there already a CFJ on whether there's a 4-day wait for support actions in the Gerontocracy?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Returning Officer] General Election

2013-07-09 Thread Fool
On 09/07/2013 4:30 PM, omd wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM, omdc.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Sean Huntscsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I vote for omd. I vote for myself. Campaign Speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxBW4mPzv6E Look at this link,

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in R. v. Machiavelli, CFJ 3357

2013-07-09 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: I guess this is the Agoran version of tits or GTFO? Well I'm afraid this judg(e)ment cannot be appealed, check the rules. Well I'm not sure that you made one at all, but that's because I stopped reading after HER -scshunt

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in R. v. Machiavelli, CFJ 3357

2013-07-09 Thread Tanner Swett
Arguments on CFJ 3357: although it appears that this case may have been judged GUILTY, I can't figure out in any case what the sentence was. Additional arguments on CFJ 3357: since I did not possess any VCs on May 18, and I had no reasonable means of obtaining any in a timely fashion, it is not

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in R. v. Machiavelli, CFJ 3357

2013-07-09 Thread omd
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: This judgement takes effect immediately. Long live the Queen. You have six more days. ;p

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in R. v. Machiavelli, CFJ 3357

2013-07-09 Thread Steven Gardner
The legal adequacy of this I will leave to actual players to determine; as a kibitzer I merely wished to note that it is an artistic triumph. Bravo, Fool! On 10 July 2013 11:50, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: HER FELINE MAJESTY DAVY I versus TANNER SWETT (aka MACHIAVELLI) Charles

DIS: Re: BUS: Lindar Sits

2013-07-09 Thread Lindar Greenwood
That's a shame, I didn't even get a chance to assign a case to you. =P ~ Roujo I intend to stand if and only if you intend to assign me an easy case and help me judge, because I don't know how any of this works. =D

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections

2013-07-09 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: I hereby initiate the Agoran Decisions to select the holders of the offices of Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor. The vote collector is the IADoP; the eligible voters are the active first-class players. The candidates for Ambassador-At-Large are Walker and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections

2013-07-09 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: The candidates for Promotor are omd and Machiavelli. I ENDORSE the current Promotor. Perhaps it would be clearest to say I ENDORSE the person who is Promotor as of the time this vote is cast? It's not clear that the phrase the current

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections

2013-07-09 Thread Tanner Swett
On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: I hereby initiate the Agoran Decisions to select the holders of the offices of Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor. The vote collector is the IADoP; the eligible voters are the active first-class players. The candidates for Ambassador-At-Large are