DIS: Re: OFF: [assumed Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7610

2013-12-14 Thread Nich Del Evans
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Proposal 7610 by G. (AI-3, Ordinary, PF-0, no party) > Low-hanging Fruit > > [Low-hanging Fruit removes Yaks, Government, person classes, > a few other things, simplifies chambers, simplifies Holidays] > I vote FOR, and advise others to do

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Alex Smith wrote: Quorum for an Agoran Decision is equal to the number of currently active players who voted on the most recently resolved Agoran Decision to adopt a proposal, minus 3. Determined at what time? The current Rule 879 depends on the definition of eligible vot

DIS: Re: BUS: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Alex Smith wrote: > I have no real idea how proposals work in the current economy (which we > should hopefully get rid of), but: Just as a public service announcement to all, don't let not understanding the current state of economy stop you from proposing! If promotor dis

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread omd
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > Amend Rule 879 to read as follows: > {{{ > Quorum for an Agoran Decision is equal to the number of currently active > players who voted on the most recently resolved Agoran Decision to adopt > a proposal, minus 3. > }}} > This can p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 22:20 -0500, omd wrote: > This can potentially make quorum negative; I guess this is not > inherently wrong, but it seems odd. Also likely to make scams easier > in some cases, which, it being you, I'm sure is purposeful... I made a conscious decision not to think too much a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Alex Smith wrote: It shouldn't make scams easier unless there's widespread disinterest in a distribution. In fact, the rule would provide an incentive to vote (so as to prevent the following distribution being used for a voting scam). I imagine it could scammably amplify b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread omd
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > It shouldn't make scams easier unless there's widespread disinterest in > a distribution. In fact, the rule would provide an incentive to vote (so > as to prevent the following distribution being used for a voting scam). Well, it would make sc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: What about changing quorum like this?

2013-12-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 23:03 -0500, omd wrote: > Well, it would make scams easier if the scamster waits for a > (historically fairly rare, but not unheard of) period of mass apathy, > such as the current one. Not the end of the world. Especially as apathetic periods are the ones most likely to ben