DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations v1.1

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 9:52 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 6/29/2020 10:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from >> previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, >> primarily those of

DIS: Re: [Notary] Re: BUS: [Pledge] [Dragon] DRGN sale

2020-06-29 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 7:59 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/29/20 7:58 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 23:38, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via >> agora-business wrote: >>> On 6/29/20 7:36 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:

DIS: @Trigon Doubloon Counting

2020-06-29 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
There were actually 9 parties rather than 7, so everybody who tried to cash doubloons actually could only get 55 of them (I think people did this in a way where they did get 55 instead of the whole thing failing). -- >From R. Lee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:49, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/29/20 1:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:41, Becca Lee via agora-business > > wrote: > >> Nice, I transfer 2 Pendants to QuickExchange > > > > Er... I think

DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Okay, I'm tired, and this is the best I can think of right now. This would allow exiled players to be repeatedly exiled until they get down to 9 blots, but give them welcome packages back afterward. Why 9? A player with fewer than 9 blots has sufferage, and with the Blot-B-Gone from the Justice

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] let's just match the promotor's reality shall we

2020-06-29 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Amend Rule 1607 (Distribution) by replacing: > The Promotor's report includes a list of all proposals in the > Proposal Pool > with: > The Promotor's report includes a list of all proposals that were >

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
the pool also contains my most recent proposal, the one about repealing summary judgement On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:02 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Here's that draft I promised. Time for bed. > > -Aris > --- > I hereby distribute each listed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 9:43 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Sorry, I didn't get around to reading these until now. Thanks for > going to the effort to write these! Comments inline. > >> 4. The judge is the final arbitor on matters of this tournament, and eir >> decisions can overturned if and

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's that draft I promised. Time for bed. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 8, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 1:46 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, I'm tired, and this is the best I can think of right now. This > would allow exiled players to be repeatedly exiled until they get down > to 9 blots, but give them welcome packages back afterward. Why 9? A > player with fewer

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 01:30, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody > intends their statenents to be true. If it's still a worry, we could require all

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 6:23 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Why don't we just have "A player cannot receive a welcome package if eir > most recent deregistration was as a Fugitive". It means you aren't forever > barred, but you have to wait the 30 days like everyone else. Yeah, I think the

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 6/29/2020 2:09 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote:>> the pool also contains my most recent proposal, the one about repealing>> summary judgement> > Aris,> > You just asked why we should change the rule to actually state that> proposal pool

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Why don't we just have "A player cannot receive a welcome package if eir most recent deregistration was as a Fugitive". It means you aren't forever barred, but you have to wait the 30 days like everyone else. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:42 PM nch via agora-discussion <

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 2:09 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > the pool also contains my most recent proposal, the one about repealing > summary judgement Aris, You just asked why we should change the rule to actually state that proposal pool report is accurate to the beginning of the week

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Oh this is my fault, I thought I'd pended that proposal before the beginning of the GMT week but that was not so. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:05 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/29/2020 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 6/29/2020 2:09 AM, Ed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor, if it's not too much work

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Certainly not Green, Orange is a big possibility if there is an assessment within the next few days, it's true. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:14 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/29/20 11:11 AM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > > I have an Emerald, Gray,

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 11:37 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/29/2020 8:05 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:50 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, I think the issue is that letting a person deregistered for crimes >>> back in the game sooner than a

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 8:05 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:50 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> Yeah, I think the issue is that letting a person deregistered for crimes >> back in the game sooner than a voluntary deregistrant is silly. Crime >> deregistration should be

DIS: Re: BUS: Justice for Trigon [attn. Herald]

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
I think the reason was that we'd then have to comb through the entire backlog as long service awards hadnt been awarded for a (very) long time. But as this is relatively recent, an exceptionally long and difficult period, and a current player, I wouldn't mind making an exception. On Tue, Jun 30,

DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Rule 2450: The time window of a pledge is 60 days, unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise. Is "for the next 24 hours" sufficient to be "explicitly stating otherwise" regarding the time window? On 6/29/2020 12:21 PM, grok via agora-business wrote: For the next

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
I agree! If Agora doesn't want me around, it is welcome to deregister me by proposal, which should be the only way to deregister someone without their consent. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/29/2020 8:05 AM, Ed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 12:29 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > Rule 2450: >   The time window of a pledge is 60 days, unless the >   pledge explicitly states otherwise. > > Is "for the next 24 hours" sufficient to be "explicitly stating > otherwise" regarding the time window? I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Yes, it is very explicitly stating otherwise. Anyway, even if it were not, it would not have any effect beyond the 24 hours. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:29 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Rule 2450: >The time window of a pledge is 60

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:50 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Yeah, I think the issue is that letting a person deregistered for crimes > back in the game sooner than a voluntary deregistrant is silly. Crime > deregistration should be a time out,

DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor, if it's not too much work

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 11:11 AM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > I have an Emerald, Gray, and Magenta ribbon (or glitter) within the last 2 > days, I also can easily get Cyan (by resigning from my own office then > deputising for it). Can I interest you in bribing you to assigning me a CFJ > in the

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
Yeah, I mean we all CoE things that don't turn out to be errors, on all the reports. But when a particular type of report is causing persistent errors you need to look at your UI to see if it's a little too confusing. :) I've noticed a lot of comments/questions on proposal status, maybe it's

DIS: [Referee] [Finger]

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 12:20 PM Ed Strange via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I point a finger at Aris for Promotor Tardiness > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:01 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > The Promotor's report

DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
please, film yourself doing a silly dance (if you prefer for privacy reasons, record your voice singing a silly song, or do something textually silly, if you must) On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:21 AM grok via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > For the next 24 hours, I pledge to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Were i still notary, I would hold it automatically destroyed (and did so for many other such pledges). nonetheless, notary reports aren't self-ratifying, so i suppose it's good to keep an eye on it. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:33 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Pledge

2020-06-29 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
It's just a matter of whether the pledge is automatically destroyed or needs to be manually destroyed. On 6/29/2020 12:30 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/29/20 12:29 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: Rule 2450:   The time window of a

DIS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (weekly report)

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 11:37 AM, ATMunn via agora-official wrote: > "Co Dependents" nch, R. Lee The text you have for this contract is wrong. It excludes the original text of the contract [0]. We appended two lines [1] and then removed one of those two [2]. [0]

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/29/20 12:11 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >> For the Participation Award, given to the people who are members to the >> most contracts: > I would restrict this to people who are members of contracts with at > least two

DIS: Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:47, James Cook wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:41, Becca Lee via agora-business > wrote: > > Nice, I transfer 2 Pendants to QuickExchange > > Er... I think you just gave 2 Pendants to QE for free. I think you need to say you pay 1 Pendant in order to be granted 44

DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Re: BUS: [ATTENTION PIRATES: IMPORTANT]: Recordkeeping Parley

2020-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-29 11:57, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: For each doubloon I currently possess (I think: 71), I transfer it to the Plunder Partnership, causing the Plunder Partnership to transfer one coin to me. I think this fails due to the following text: A Pirate

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Promotor] Tardiness

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
[I wrote the below, but am purposefully sending it to Discussion for commentary rather than pointing atm] On 6/29/2020 11:08 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I find Aris guily of Tardiness as Promotor and levy the Cold Hand of > Justice, imposing a forgivable fine of 1 blot,

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
The creator of the dragon corporation is warrigal On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:13 AM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/29/20 12:11 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > For the Participation Award, given to the people who are members to the > > most

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
lol, I think you need to retry now that I pf'd. On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:49, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > > Oops, I consent, take the pendants, and transfer them back to QE in > exchange for 84 credits > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:48 AM James Cook via agora-discussion < >

DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Treasuror] arrrr

2020-06-29 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:04 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Aye, for it be to my benefit, I do hereby transfer 1 coin from The Plunder > Partnership to myself. Aye, and being as I am a pirate who likes me > riches, I do that 70 more times in

DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
This is an idea I've been thinking of for a little while now. I think it would be interesting to acknowledge people's effort with contracts. For now, this is just an informal thing sent to a-d, but maybe I'll make it a publicly-funded contract in the future if there's any interest. As this is

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 12:11 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > For the Participation Award, given to the people who are members to the > most contracts: I would restrict this to people who are members of contracts with at least two members. Otherwise, I like the idea!

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 1:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/29/2020 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/29/20 12:11 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >>> For the Participation Award, given to the people who are members to the >>> most contracts: >> I would restrict

DIS: Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:41, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > Nice, I transfer 2 Pendants to QuickExchange Er... I think you just gave 2 Pendants to QE for free. I consent to the following amendment to the Dragon QuickExchange contract: { Append one paragraph at the end. It says: { If

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 1:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:41, Becca Lee via agora-business > wrote: >> Nice, I transfer 2 Pendants to QuickExchange > > Er... I think you just gave 2 Pendants to QE for free. > > I consent to the following amendment to the Dragon

DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Re: BUS: [ATTENTION PIRATES: IMPORTANT]: Recordkeeping Parley

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 10:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > If I no longer possess any doubloons, I consent to the above Parley. > well *that* defeats the purpose somewhat...

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (weekly report)

2020-06-29 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
you have this right in the text but not in the initial summary On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:45 AM Ed Strange via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > (unofficial) CoE: the "new contract" between nch and I doesnt exist as we > both agreed to repeal it. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at

DIS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3857 assigned to R. Lee

2020-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/29/2020 9:24 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Oh nice, quick turnaround! > > I assign CFJ 3857 to R. Lee. > Note: to be clear to everyone I just followed straight-up favoring policy here no bribes were solicited from my end or accepted :). -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Treasuror] arrrr

2020-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-29 12:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: So I transfer 1 Doubloon to me mate, R. Lee, and as e has accepted me silver now, it is a bond and position not to be betrayed. This fails if the number of doubloons possessed by each person is greater than 71. -- Trigon I LOVE

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Treasuror] arrrr

2020-06-29 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
I don't plan to spend the doubloon, which will be destroyed after the parley is adopted anyway. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:16 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-29 12:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > So I transfer 1 Doubloon

DIS: Re: BUS: [Glitter] Happy Birthday!

2020-06-29 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 3:58 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > Happy Birthday Agora! I award myself Magenta Glitter and then a Magenta > Ribbon. > You already have the Ribbon, but even if you didn't the second would have failed. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor,