Re: DIS: Making small forks in the river that is Agora

2018-05-24 Thread Kenyon Prater
With so few players already, splitting the playerbase further seems bad? On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Going off the idea of it's just activity and legal recognition which makes > Agora this "continuous" game so far, what if, from that "stream", we

DIS: Re: BUS: Your promise, Cuddlebeeeam ♥

2018-05-27 Thread Kenyon Prater
I approve of any agoran CFJs that get might called on blognomic actions, and any blognomic Cfjs that might get called on Agoran actions. On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > For context, this is for this thing here: https://blognomic.com/archive/ > ahab >

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

2018-02-26 Thread Kenyon Prater
That looks really good. For the quadratic, maybe something like: (I'm sure the language on these would need fixing first) "A Nomicbot's capacity is a positive integer switch defaulting to 1. A Player CAN, by announcement, destroy (X+1) ore, where X is the value of an owned Nomicbot's capacity, to

Re: DIS: does pending work?

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
Even if pending with paper didn't work, pending without objection is untouched, right? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Yes. > > El 28 feb. 2018 13:19, "Kerim Aydin" escribió: > > > > > > > I'll admit, I've been pretty

Re: DIS: Fwd: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
Confused by "Job Points switch which can only be 5", and then that also seems to be the switch that tracks how many points e gets per month? Is it a max of 5, or what? Other than that something like this could be good. Leaning towards the second because it's more flexible--you could imagine the

DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
A very rough draft for a proposal. I'm going to hold off on writing it up until the current mess is resolved, but I wanted to get feedback on whether the idea is interesting to people The proposal would: { Create a Land Type of "Gray". Land that has Land Type "Gray" is gray land. Gray land

Re: DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

2018-02-27 Thread Kenyon Prater
usiness-request, not agora-business. Also, you don't have to be a player to CFJ. Non-players get one per week as well as players. -G. On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote: > I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I > could just ask the public about.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
I'm confused? The assets are created at the end of every Agoran Week, which would be at midnight UTC on the Sunday-Monday interface, no? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I have to agree. The IRL time race is annoying. > > I take all resources at the

DIS: History of rules reenacted by PAoaM

2018-04-05 Thread Kenyon Prater
I'm hoping to deputize rulekeepor so we can have an up to date FLR again, but I'm lost on some parts. PAoaM reenacts a bunch of rules, eg 1993/1, 1994/0, 1995/0, but I can't find any of them on the archives and they aren't on the github reposity. I'd like to find them so I can list the revision

DIS: Status of the rules

2018-04-07 Thread Kenyon Prater
I just published the FLR and SLR deputizing as Rulekeepor. CoE away! If people get a chance, I'd appreciate as many eyes as possible on them, since I'm betting there's at least a couple errors I missed somewhere. My current understanding of the state of the rules is: - Welcome Packages fail

Re: DIS: Status of the rules

2018-04-07 Thread Kenyon Prater
I'm KenyonPrater on GH. Why do we need a major patch? On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 12:30 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Darn it, looks like we're going to need another major patch. What's your > GitHub username? > > -Aris > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

2018-04-08 Thread Kenyon Prater
e :P > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote: > > PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a > > proposal. Want me to pend it with paper? > > > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > &

Re: DIS: Processing facilities

2018-04-10 Thread Kenyon Prater
My impression is that any player or contract can transfer any currencies defined in Economics into any facility regardless of location. Assets: An asset generally CAN be transferred (syn. paid, given) by announcement by its owner to another entity, subject to modification by its

DIS: FLR and SLR on the website are current

2018-04-10 Thread Kenyon Prater
https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr.txt https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/slr.tx Sorry for the wait!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

2018-04-11 Thread Kenyon Prater
A related question, if a contact's state rests on something that is guaranteed to have a definite solution, but producing that solution computationally intractable, is there a mechanism for resolving that? It isn't paradoxical or indeterminate, it's just that we don't have the ability to determine

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8033-8041

2018-04-14 Thread Kenyon Prater
This was Nttpf I think. On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Ned Strange wrote: > I vote as follows: > 8033: PRESENT > 8034: FOR > 8035: FOR > 8036: FOR > 8037: FOR > 8038: AGAINST, foiled by power > 8039: Regrettably, FOR > 8040: AGAINST. I think 5 blots+3 a month will be

DIS: Re: BUS: don't worry about this one

2018-04-09 Thread Kenyon Prater
Awww come on use sha1 to at least make it interesting... I love the idea of this proposal though. Doesn't mean I'm voting for it.. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 6:56 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal, "Nothing to worry about", AI-1. > Co-authors: omd,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] the Great Zombie Auction for April

2018-04-05 Thread Kenyon Prater
t; On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > I bid 4 coins. > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:24 PM Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I bid one coin in this auction. > &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] the Great Zombie Auction for April

2018-04-07 Thread Kenyon Prater
> > I bid 15 coins on this auction, or all coins I have, whichever is > higher. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> tttpf > > >> > > >> On Thu, A

DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

2018-04-07 Thread Kenyon Prater
PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a proposal. Want me to pend it with paper? On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2. > > I intend to pend it without objection

DIS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

2018-04-11 Thread Kenyon Prater
Thank you! On the online version the link to last change thing seems to be broken, I'm getting: link to last change: https://31241 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 11:21 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > THE MAP OF ARCADIA -- APRIL 2, 2018 > View an interactive version of this report

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: a dumb defense

2018-04-14 Thread Kenyon Prater
ch. > > -Aris > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 1:18 PM Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I publish the following body of text, labeled TALES OF THE ZOMBIE > > APOCALYPSE: { > > Nothing happens. > > } > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8031

2018-03-26 Thread Kenyon Prater
Does that conditional vote include PRESENT votes? On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:46 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 25 Mar 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > --- > > 8031* [1] 2.0 Nomicbots

DIS: Re: BUS: Nabbing the Stuffs: April 1st-7th edition

2018-04-02 Thread Kenyon Prater
, it might become somewhat spammy to have threads claiming resources every week. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> wrote: > I take all the contents of the orchard at (-1, 1). >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Land Auctions for April week 1

2018-04-03 Thread Kenyon Prater
on auctions 1-3 each, and 8 coins on auctions 4 & 5 each. > We > > will bury you! > > > > ~Corona > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I bid 5 coins on auction

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: becoming a player

2018-04-03 Thread Kenyon Prater
People are generally pretty helpful and forgiving of mistakes (thankfully, because I make a lot of them). If you have specific questions, just ask. A general (bad) summary of the version of the game right now is that it's a mix of Go, Catan, and Harvest Moon. There's a 13x13 game board that are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] the Great Zombie Auction for April

2018-04-03 Thread Kenyon Prater
that Auction by that person are withdrawn.) > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote: > > I bid one coin in this auction. > > I bid one coin in this auction. > > > > Based on my reading of the rules, I'm allowed to do that? > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:0

DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain V2

2018-04-03 Thread Kenyon Prater
Title: Gray Land and the Fountain Co-authors: Aris, Cuddle Beam, Gaelan, Trigon AI: 2.0 Contents: { Amend "Land Types" (Power=2.0): Replace "whose values are "Black", "White", and "Aether"", with the text "whose values are "Black", "White", "Gray", and "Aether"" Create a new rule

DIS: PAoaM Patch status

2018-03-16 Thread Kenyon Prater
It still isn't pended right? Is there a reason/what still needs to happen before that?

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
I didn't see the "entities other than Agora" change, that works. On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> wrote: > In "Facilities": > >If a player owns any facilities with upkeep costs, e must pay them >before the first

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
In "Facilities": If a player owns any facilities with upkeep costs, e must pay them before the first day of the next Agoran month. Failing to do this destroys the facility. In the second to last Eastman week of the Agoran Month, the Cartographor SHOULD issue a humiliating public

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8029-8030

2018-03-20 Thread Kenyon Prater
I vote FOR both as well. On Mar 19, 2018 10:54 PM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: > --- > 8029* G., Aris 3.0 Blots v1.0 G. 1 Paper > 8030* Aris, [1]3.0 PAoaM Patch v4

DIS: Re: BUS: Nabbing the stuffs part 2

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
0, 0) to (-1, 0) > Destroy 1 apple to move to (-1, -1) > Take all the contents of the mine at (-1,-1) > > I likewise intend to respect EFDoA, and encourage everyone else to do the > same. > > -Aris > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gm

Re: DIS: PAoaM Patch v3

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
Does something need to retroactively make land auctions and resource-nabbing current? I don't see that included in here. My understanding is that the Cartographor doesn't exist which probably makes land auctions and maybe all movement on the map broken? Or are we starting with new land auctions

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-01 Thread Kenyon Prater
gt; > Rule 2029 by number (and definitely don't include the revision id). > > Instead, either just say "the town fountain", or let people figure it out > > for themselves (my personal favored option). > > I agree with everything Aris said here. > > > -Aris > > > >

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-03 Thread Kenyon Prater
PM Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry I forgot to bring this up earlier, but I think unless we have a use >>> case for facilities with multiple types, we should just have a simple >>> production/processing/{monument,other} option. This is w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nabbing the stuffs

2018-03-04 Thread Kenyon Prater
that I'm worried about the long term impact. Opinions? -Aris On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:55 PM Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If the mine at (-1, -1) is nonempty, then I do the following: > > Destroy 1 apple to move from (0, 0) to (-1, 0) > Destroy 1 apple to mov

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-02 Thread Kenyon Prater
I support both. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:18 AM, Corona wrote: > Oh well. > > I intend to award the title of Champion by Politics to Aris with 2 Agoran > Consent. > > I intend to award the (new) title of Reformist Bug to Trigon with 2 Agoran > Consent.​ > > On 23:20,

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-02 Thread Kenyon Prater
might be missing some. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> wrote: > Comments inline. > > On 3/2/2018 2:37 PM, Kenyon Prater wrote: > >> Gray Land and Fountain Draft 1 { >> >> Amend rule 1995/0 "Land Types" (Power=

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-02 Thread Kenyon Prater
AM, Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'd go with solution 2, but modified. What if we made it so that each > > facility could fit into (0 or more) "categories", and defined Production > > and Processing as categories. That way, w

DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

2018-02-26 Thread Kenyon Prater
I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I could just ask the public about. In the future for something like this, should I just ask? Kenyon -- Forwarded message -- From: Kenyon Prater <kprater3...@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5

Re: DIS: Fwd: Facilities owned by contracts incur no costs

2018-02-26 Thread Kenyon Prater
Sounds good, thanks. On Feb 26, 2018 6:21 PM, "Reuben Staley" <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think a cfj is frivolous in this case. Just write a fix proposal, or tell > a player to submit one such proposal as you yourself cannot. > > El 26 feb. 2018 19:0

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

2018-02-26 Thread Kenyon Prater
Not a player, but a fun way to avoid this would be that if a bot's action is paradoxical, unreadable, unspecified, etc, it explodes, is removed from the game, is removed from the duel, and automatically loses. So a clever bot could do proposal "all players that vote no on this proposal win the

Re: DIS: Upgrading

2018-04-25 Thread Kenyon Prater
It might be interesting to allow contracts to define fee based actions in the same way that contracts can define assets. Other than that, which I'm not sure is worth the headache, I like this proto. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 11:56 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Proto : Let's