On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote:
Generally I don't think it's true the meta-agreement is subject to amendment
by even true nomic. There are still limits. What if we made Agora purport to
be played by the NZ All Blacks?
This would paralyze the rule until
On 09/07/2013 5:46 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote:
Generally I don't think it's true the meta-agreement is subject to
amendment
by even true nomic. There are still limits. What if we made Agora
purport to
be played by the NZ All
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 20:50 -0400, Fool wrote (about CFJ 3362):
Therefore I intend, with two support (and without five Elder objections)
to appeal. I call on the appellate court to substitute a verdict of
GUILTY, and suggest the death penalty.
I
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
I support. I object. (Always wanted to do that and have it be
meaningful.)
It's not though... you CANNOT wear two hats :-P
Pfff. Look, everyone, seems like G. is *poor* and
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Jonathan Rouillard wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
I support. I object. (Always wanted to do that and have it be
meaningful.)
It's not though... you CANNOT wear two hats :-P
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote:
R2410 allows a party constitution to amend itself arbitrarily. The fact that
these amendments are mediated via R2410 and player announcement does not make
it not a Nomic.
The point is, the Party cannot *choose its own method of mediation*, while a
nomic can.
On 08/07/2013 9:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
And when you think about it, no Nomic compels its own rule following. All
Nomics are implicitly mediated by something, and this is not subject to
amendment. Usually this is by its players directly, but there are other
possibilities.
But they *are*
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Sure, a party can do this. And then splinter off and be a nomic.
BUT IN DOING SO, IT IS NO LONGER THE PARTY that the officer
Is tracking.
fwiw, I agree that splintering off doesn't count, but I think that a
system of
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Fool wrote:
I had a look. The situation looks to me like this: the question was whether
Agora would recognise it as a Contest, and when it broke a certain Agoran
rule, it ceased to be a Contest. There wasn't a divergent version of
Claustronomic that still existed in
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, omd wrote:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Sure, a party can do this. And then splinter off and be a nomic.
BUT IN DOING SO, IT IS NO LONGER THE PARTY that the officer
Is tracking.
fwiw, I agree that splintering off
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Mainly, the sticking point is in the broadness of R2368's arbitrary,
coupled with the fact that the mechanism CAN be changed within Agora,
but CAN'T be changed by the Party, so from the point of view of Agora,
there is at least one thing thing that CAN
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