Re: DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

[Aris Merchant]

I tend to agree that some way of making patch proposals free is worthwhile.
Writing such proposals is entirely a public service. If anything, people
should be paid for them.

-Aris

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:14 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> On one hand several of us were proposing far more than 2 a month,
> especially
> those of us who did a lot of bug-finding - at 2 a month I'd personally save
> for proposals that are "interesting" rather than bug fixes.  On the other
> hand, others of us weren't, and maybe a contract could automate folks
> making
> some kind of benefit from their unused paper, and you're right of course -
> it would be great to see if the Mills filled in the gap.  Also it was
> really
> refreshing this week to see most of the action in straight-up gameplay
> (auctions) without having to fix anything broken about them - So maybe
> we're
> finally at a place where we'll be able to "just play the current rules"
> without proposing so much!
>
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> > We all already get 2 paper a month, so I'm worried about reintroducing
> > without objection and making mills worthless.
> >
> > I'm gonna try and write a contract to coordinate the altruism but I don't
> > know if it'll work.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is v. annoying.  I'm not feeling altruistic (I mean I might once,
> but
> > > not against an ongoing defect in the rules) - I wonder how if people
> will
> > > pay for bugfixes?  Anyway, I don't plan to pay to pend it - not asking
> > > anyone
> > > else to but feel free if you like :P
> > >
> > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> > > > PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of
> pending a
> > > > proposal. Want me to pend it with paper?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2.
> > > > >
> > > > > I intend to pend it without objection (plenty of time before the
> next
> > > > > payday).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> -
> > > > > Amend Rule 2559 (Paydays) by replacing the text:
> > > > >e was not issued any Cards other than Green for eir conduct
> > > > >in that office
> > > > > with:
> > > > >no unforgivable fines were levied on em for eir conduct in that
> > > > >office
> > > > >
> -
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

[Kerim Aydin]

On one hand several of us were proposing far more than 2 a month, especially
those of us who did a lot of bug-finding - at 2 a month I'd personally save
for proposals that are "interesting" rather than bug fixes.  On the other 
hand, others of us weren't, and maybe a contract could automate folks making
some kind of benefit from their unused paper, and you're right of course -
it would be great to see if the Mills filled in the gap.  Also it was really
refreshing this week to see most of the action in straight-up gameplay
(auctions) without having to fix anything broken about them - So maybe we're
finally at a place where we'll be able to "just play the current rules"
without proposing so much!

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> We all already get 2 paper a month, so I'm worried about reintroducing
> without objection and making mills worthless.
> 
> I'm gonna try and write a contract to coordinate the altruism but I don't
> know if it'll work.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > That is v. annoying.  I'm not feeling altruistic (I mean I might once, but
> > not against an ongoing defect in the rules) - I wonder how if people will
> > pay for bugfixes?  Anyway, I don't plan to pay to pend it - not asking
> > anyone
> > else to but feel free if you like :P
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> > > PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a
> > > proposal. Want me to pend it with paper?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2.
> > > >
> > > > I intend to pend it without objection (plenty of time before the next
> > > > payday).
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Amend Rule 2559 (Paydays) by replacing the text:
> > > >e was not issued any Cards other than Green for eir conduct
> > > >in that office
> > > > with:
> > > >no unforgivable fines were levied on em for eir conduct in that
> > > >office
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

[Kenyon Prater]

We all already get 2 paper a month, so I'm worried about reintroducing
without objection and making mills worthless.

I'm gonna try and write a contract to coordinate the altruism but I don't
know if it'll work.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> That is v. annoying.  I'm not feeling altruistic (I mean I might once, but
> not against an ongoing defect in the rules) - I wonder how if people will
> pay for bugfixes?  Anyway, I don't plan to pay to pend it - not asking
> anyone
> else to but feel free if you like :P
>
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> > PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a
> > proposal. Want me to pend it with paper?
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2.
> > >
> > > I intend to pend it without objection (plenty of time before the next
> > > payday).
> > >
> > > -
> > > Amend Rule 2559 (Paydays) by replacing the text:
> > >e was not issued any Cards other than Green for eir conduct
> > >in that office
> > > with:
> > >no unforgivable fines were levied on em for eir conduct in that
> > >office
> > > -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

[Kerim Aydin]

That is v. annoying.  I'm not feeling altruistic (I mean I might once, but
not against an ongoing defect in the rules) - I wonder how if people will 
pay for bugfixes?  Anyway, I don't plan to pay to pend it - not asking anyone
else to but feel free if you like :P

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
> PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a
> proposal. Want me to pend it with paper?
> 
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2.
> >
> > I intend to pend it without objection (plenty of time before the next
> > payday).
> >
> > -
> > Amend Rule 2559 (Paydays) by replacing the text:
> >e was not issued any Cards other than Green for eir conduct
> >in that office
> > with:
> >no unforgivable fines were levied on em for eir conduct in that
> >office
> > -
> >
> >
> >
>

DIS: Re: BUS: payday fix

[Kenyon Prater]

PAoaM amends 2445 by removing Without Objection as a method of pending a
proposal. Want me to pend it with paper?

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> I submit the following proposal, Paydays Fix, AI-2.
>
> I intend to pend it without objection (plenty of time before the next
> payday).
>
> -
> Amend Rule 2559 (Paydays) by replacing the text:
>e was not issued any Cards other than Green for eir conduct
>in that office
> with:
>no unforgivable fines were levied on em for eir conduct in that
>office
> -
>
>
>