Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-22 Thread juan via agora-discussion
ais523 via agora-discussion [2022-05-23 02:09]:
> On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 22:07 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> > ais523 via agora-official [2022-05-22 20:33]:
> > > The Device is off.
> > > 
> > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> > > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> > > device is on:" list:
> > > {{{
> > >Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured
> > >untracked Device switch with possible values ordinary (the default)
> > >and democratic.
> > > }}}
> > > [Going with something of my own this week. This one is mostly intended
> > > as a CFJ generator. Putting it in the "on" section so that we can
> > > switch the Device off in an emergency if it breaks things.]
> > 
> > I support.
> 
> You posted this to a discussion forum, not a public forum.
> 
> -- 
> ais523
> 

It's a half-hearted support.

-- 
juan


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-22 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 22:07 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> ais523 via agora-official [2022-05-22 20:33]:
> > The Device is off.
> > 
> > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> > device is on:" list:
> > {{{
> >Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured
> >untracked Device switch with possible values ordinary (the default)
> >and democratic.
> > }}}
> > [Going with something of my own this week. This one is mostly intended
> > as a CFJ generator. Putting it in the "on" section so that we can
> > switch the Device off in an emergency if it breaks things.]
> 
> I support.

You posted this to a discussion forum, not a public forum.

-- 
ais523



DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-05-22 Thread juan via agora-discussion
ais523 via agora-official [2022-05-22 20:33]:
> The Device is off.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
>Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured
>untracked Device switch with possible values ordinary (the default)
>and democratic.
> }}}
> [Going with something of my own this week. This one is mostly intended
> as a CFJ generator. Putting it in the "on" section so that we can
> switch the Device off in an emergency if it breaks things.]

I support.

-- 
juan


DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2022-01-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, ais523 via agora-official wrote:


The Device is on.

I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
"The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
device is off:" list:
{{{
 The Rulekeepor SHOULD also include any other information which e
 feels may be helpful in the use of the Device in the FLR.
}}}
[I was all set to go with Ørjan's selection – it was very popular and
seemed likely to lead to some interesting CFJs – when I realised it was
illegal; e replaced the word "category" with "Device", but "category"
doesn't appear anywhere in the text to be replaced, which is one of the
requirements of the rule (only "categories" appears, and replacing that
with "Device" leads to some really bad wording). As such, it'd a) cause
me to fail to fulfil my office duties and b) not actually amend the
rule. So I'm going with my, rather more boring, suggestion instead.

We should probably fix rule 2655 to require the replacement of one noun
selected from the selected *rule*, rather than the selected *text*.]


I am not entirely convinced you couldn't have used "Devices" for 
"categories" even if "category" does not occur.  Maybe rule 2655 should 
use "lemma" in the way they do on Wiktionary.


Greetings,
Ørjan.


DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-12-16 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 8:31 PM ais523 via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> The Device is on.
>
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> device is on:" list:
> {{{
>   The voting Device is that specified by the authorizing
>   authority, or first-past-the-post by default.
> }}}
> [Nobody suggested anything, even though I'm doing this later in the
> weak than normal. So here's me suggesting something of my own.]
>
> --
> ais523
> Mad Engineer
>

Okay, I'm very sorry I'm late, but here's an alternate suggestion:

"Each Agoran decision has a voting device, which must be AI-majority,
instant runoff, or first-past-the-post. The voting device is that specified
by the authorizing authority, or first-past-the-post by default."

That would allow us to move beyond only having one device.

-Aspen


DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Intent to Invent

2021-10-23 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:09 +0100, ais523 via agora-official wrote:
> The Device is Off.
> 
> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When
> the
> device is off:" list:
> {{{
>When e does so, e fulfills any obligations with regards to that
>Device.
> }}}

Just a reminder that I need people to support me in order to be able to
resolve this intent.

-- 
ais523
Mad Engineer