Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

2017-11-26 Thread Ørjan Johansen 

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:


You can either deny it or publish a revision. You should do neither,
but note that you will eventually have to choose one if the cfj isn't
judged w/in the next 7 days, which it won't be.


No, point 2.3 of rule 2201 allows em to cite an already existing CFJ.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

2017-11-26 Thread Madeline 

  A doubt is an explicit public challenge via one of the following
  methods, identifying a document and explaining the scope and
  nature of a perceived error in it:
  
  1. An inquiry case, appropriate for questions of legal

 interpretation.
  
  2. A claim of error, appropriate for matters of fact. The

 publisher of the original document SHALL (if e was required to
 publish that document) or SHOULD (otherwise) do one of the
 following in a timely fashion:
  
 1. Deny the claim (causing it to cease to be a doubt).

 2. Publish a revision.
 3. Initiate an inquiry case regarding the truth of the claim
(if the subject is actually a matter of law), or cite a
relevant existing inquiry case.


I'll take the inquiry case option?


On 2017-11-27 13:22, VJ Rada wrote:

You can either deny it or publish a revision. You should do neither,
but note that you will eventually have to choose one if the cfj isn't
judged w/in the next 7 days, which it won't be.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Telnaior  wrote:

I'm pretty sure I have to respond to this by saying this CoE is waiting on
the result of a CFJ, yeah?
I should probably go over the rules there again.



On 2017-11-27 12:59, VJ Rada wrote:

oh that should just be a coe to avoid self-ratification.

coe: aris advised every politician.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:58 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:

did you do the ones where e used eir favours to bribe every
politician, even ones from other parties?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Madeline  wrote:

I did those.



On 2017-11-27 12:51, VJ Rada wrote:

um i meant aris's actions sure they're basically the same person right?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Madeline  wrote:

Uh, which one are you referring to?



On 2017-11-27 12:45, VJ Rada wrote:

I don't think ATMunn's actions were super-conditional?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Telnaior  wrote:

The two mega-super-conditional actions I'm not gonna count barring a
CFJ

_>

I award VJ Rada 3 NPR favours for being the Advisor of the Drunk.
I award Aris 3 OOS favours for being the Advisor of the Mystery.
I award Aris 3 MLP favours for being the Advisor of the Hat Rack.


PARTIES AND FAVOURS
---

PLA - Platonic Isolationists   (4 Politicians, Economy)
NPR - New Punchbowl Reformers  (4 Politicians, Justice)
COS - Costume Conservatives(4 Politicians,
Efficiency)
SUL - Substance Use Liberals   (4 Politicians,
Legislation)
MLP - Official Raving Monster Looney Party (4 Politicians,
Participation)

+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| Player  | PLA | NPR | COS | SUL | MLP |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| Alexis  |   0 |   3 |   0 |   2 |   4 |
| Aris|   0 | 183 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
| ATMunn  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   3 |   4 |
| Corona  |   0 | 215 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
| Cuddle Beam |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
| G.  |   0 | 429 |   0 |   3 |   4 |
| Gaelan  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
| nichdel |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
| o   |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   4 |
| PSS[1]  |   0 | 216 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
| Quazie  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
| Telnaior|   0 | 215 |   0 |   0 |   4 |
| 天火狐 |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   2 | (not even gonna try)
| Trigon  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
| VJ Rada |   0 |   3 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+


RANKS AND POLITICIANS
-

CHAMBER OF POWER[Rank 5]
Host  - Mad Cap'n Tom (NPR, 15 Stress, Aris)
Break Election Ties
   16 Influence - Aris
2 Influence - Alexis

UPPER ECHELON   [Rank 3]
Planner   - Joseph "Stealin'" McCarthy (PLA, 09 Stress, VJ Rada)
Decide Party Policies
10 Influence - VJ Rada
Enforcer  - Xi Kingpin (PLA, 09 Stress, VJ Rada)
Remove Row Echelon Politicians
8 Influence - VJ Rada
Organiser - Mad "Max" Robespierre (COS, 09 Stress, No Advisor)
Extra Voting Power
No Influencers
Creep - Politician McPoliticianface (NPR, 09 Stress, Aris)
Increase Politician Stress
10 Influence - Aris

ROW ECHELON [Rank 1]
Schmoozer - The Drunk Clinton (SUL, 03 Stress, VJ Rada)
Change Politician Parties
6 Influence - VJ Rada
Decorator - John Johnson (MLP, 03 Stress, ATMunn)
Extra Balloon
3 Influence - ATMunn
3 Influence - VJ Rada
Loner - Pinocchio (COS, 03 Stress, No Advisor)
PLA Favours
No Influencers
Drunk - Aristotle (PLA, 03 Stress, VJ Rada)
NPR Favours
3 Influence - VJ Rada
Mystery   - Mickey Joker (NPR, 03 Stress, Aris)
COS Favours
12 Influence - Aris
Wild One  - Malcolm Turncoat (COS, 03 Stress,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

2017-11-26 Thread VJ Rada 
You can either deny it or publish a revision. You should do neither,
but note that you will eventually have to choose one if the cfj isn't
judged w/in the next 7 days, which it won't be.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Telnaior  wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I have to respond to this by saying this CoE is waiting on
> the result of a CFJ, yeah?
> I should probably go over the rules there again.
>
>
>
> On 2017-11-27 12:59, VJ Rada wrote:
>>
>> oh that should just be a coe to avoid self-ratification.
>>
>> coe: aris advised every politician.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:58 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>>>
>>> did you do the ones where e used eir favours to bribe every
>>> politician, even ones from other parties?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Madeline  wrote:

 I did those.



 On 2017-11-27 12:51, VJ Rada wrote:
>
> um i meant aris's actions sure they're basically the same person right?
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>>
>> Uh, which one are you referring to?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-11-27 12:45, VJ Rada wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think ATMunn's actions were super-conditional?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Telnaior  wrote:

 The two mega-super-conditional actions I'm not gonna count barring a
 CFJ
>
> _>

 I award VJ Rada 3 NPR favours for being the Advisor of the Drunk.
 I award Aris 3 OOS favours for being the Advisor of the Mystery.
 I award Aris 3 MLP favours for being the Advisor of the Hat Rack.


 PARTIES AND FAVOURS
 ---

 PLA - Platonic Isolationists   (4 Politicians, Economy)
 NPR - New Punchbowl Reformers  (4 Politicians, Justice)
 COS - Costume Conservatives(4 Politicians,
 Efficiency)
 SUL - Substance Use Liberals   (4 Politicians,
 Legislation)
 MLP - Official Raving Monster Looney Party (4 Politicians,
 Participation)

 +-+-+-+-+-+-+
 | Player  | PLA | NPR | COS | SUL | MLP |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+
 | Alexis  |   0 |   3 |   0 |   2 |   4 |
 | Aris|   0 | 183 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
 | ATMunn  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   3 |   4 |
 | Corona  |   0 | 215 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
 | Cuddle Beam |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
 | G.  |   0 | 429 |   0 |   3 |   4 |
 | Gaelan  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
 | nichdel |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
 | o   |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   4 |
 | PSS[1]  |   0 | 216 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
 | Quazie  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
 | Telnaior|   0 | 215 |   0 |   0 |   4 |
 | 天火狐 |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   2 | (not even gonna try)
 | Trigon  |   0 | 214 |   0 |   0 |   0 |
 | VJ Rada |   0 |   3 |   0 |   0 |   2 |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+


 RANKS AND POLITICIANS
 -

 CHAMBER OF POWER[Rank 5]
 Host  - Mad Cap'n Tom (NPR, 15 Stress, Aris)
 Break Election Ties
   16 Influence - Aris
2 Influence - Alexis

 UPPER ECHELON   [Rank 3]
 Planner   - Joseph "Stealin'" McCarthy (PLA, 09 Stress, VJ Rada)
 Decide Party Policies
10 Influence - VJ Rada
 Enforcer  - Xi Kingpin (PLA, 09 Stress, VJ Rada)
 Remove Row Echelon Politicians
8 Influence - VJ Rada
 Organiser - Mad "Max" Robespierre (COS, 09 Stress, No Advisor)
 Extra Voting Power
No Influencers
 Creep - Politician McPoliticianface (NPR, 09 Stress, Aris)
 Increase Politician Stress
10 Influence - Aris

 ROW ECHELON [Rank 1]
 Schmoozer - The Drunk Clinton (SUL, 03 Stress, VJ Rada)
 Change Politician Parties
6 Influence - VJ Rada
 Decorator - John Johnson (MLP, 03 Stress, ATMunn)
 Extra Balloon
3 Influence - ATMunn
3 Influence - VJ Rada
 Loner - Pinocchio (COS, 03 Stress, No Advisor)
 PLA Favours
No Influencers
 Drunk - Aristotle (PLA, 03 Stress, VJ Rada)
 NPR Favours
3 Influence - VJ Rada
 Mystery   - Mickey Joker (NPR, 03 Stress, Aris)
 COS Favours
12 Influence - Aris
 Wild One  - Malcolm Turncoat