Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[Ørjan Johansen]

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Edward Murphy wrote:


CFJ, barring twg: twg is Referee.

Caller's arguments:

* Oct 30, D. Margaux resigned Referee

* Nov 1, twg published the Referee's report but did not announce that e
  was deputising (as required by Rule 2160 item #5)


Gratuitous argument:

E had just previously deputized properly to resolve a Finger Pointing.



Greetings,
Ørjan.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[ATMunn]

Huh, I was sure I awarded myself one last night after seeing the post. I 
guess I didn't.


On 11/1/2018 1:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:



Oh foo,  I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons
who doesn't have one yet.

Notice of Honour
+1 twg (reminding us)
-1 Trigon (a little less helpful then twg here :P )

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:

*Technically*, any player can award any other player a ribbon e has earned.
I'm not going to do that, though. I award myself a Violet Ribbon.

On 10/30/2018 02:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

The following players earned Violet Ribbons for participating in PAoaM and
can still claim them up until Saturday:

ATMunn
Corona
G.
Trigon

(I internally debated with myself about whether to remind you, but my
fairness-loving side won out.)

-twg



--
Trigon

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[Kerim Aydin]

oh I *totally* misread the transparent ribbon rule when I went
for it last and didn't see this subtlety.  Nice one, and hopefully
I didn't mess up anyone's strategies.

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> Yes, but if you don't already own the ribbon before earning it, there is a 
> longer time period in which it counts towards the transparent ribbon.
> 
> For example:
> 
> Day 1 12:00: You earn a violet ribbon, but don't qualify for it because you 
> already have one. The earning of the violet ribbon begins to count against 
> the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
> Day 8 12:00: 7 days have passed, so the earning of the violet ribbon no 
> longer counts against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
> 
> as opposed to:
> 
> Day 1 12:00: You earn a violet ribbon, and qualify for it because you don't 
> already have one. The qualification for the violet ribbon begins to count 
> against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
> Day 5 15:32: You award yourself the violet ribbon, so you no longer qualify 
> for it.
> Day 12 15:32: 7 days have passed, so the qualification for the violet ribbon 
> no longer counts against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
> 
> -twg
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 12:03 PM, Reuben Staley 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Actually, that's false. You don't have to award yourself five ribbons to 
> > get Transparent, you just have to meet the qualifications.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 01:45 Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> >
> > > No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a 
> > > (non-grey) ribbon against eir will is not necessarily a boon, because it 
> > > makes it marginally more difficult to qualify for a transparent ribbon in 
> > > the future. You already have one, but ATMunn and Corona don't. (Nor does 
> > > Trigon but presumably e knows what e's doing.)
> > >
> > > -twg
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > > On Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:46 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh foo, I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons
> > > > who doesn't have one yet.
> > > >
> > > > Notice of Honour
> > > > +1 twg (reminding us)
> > > > -1 Trigon (a little less helpful then twg here :P )
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Technically, any player can award any other player a ribbon e has 
> > > > > earned.
> > > > > I'm not going to do that, though. I award myself a Violet Ribbon.
> > > > > On 10/30/2018 02:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The following players earned Violet Ribbons for participating in 
> > > > > > PAoaM and
> > > > > > can still claim them up until Saturday:
> > > > > > ATMunn
> > > > > > Corona
> > > > > > G.
> > > > > > Trigon
> > > > > > (I internally debated with myself about whether to remind you, but 
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > fairness-loving side won out.)
> > > > > > -twg
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Trigon
>

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[Timon Walshe-Grey]

Yes, but if you don't already own the ribbon before earning it, there is a 
longer time period in which it counts towards the transparent ribbon.

For example:

Day 1 12:00: You earn a violet ribbon, but don't qualify for it because you 
already have one. The earning of the violet ribbon begins to count against the 
5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
Day 8 12:00: 7 days have passed, so the earning of the violet ribbon no longer 
counts against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.

as opposed to:

Day 1 12:00: You earn a violet ribbon, and qualify for it because you don't 
already have one. The qualification for the violet ribbon begins to count 
against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.
Day 5 15:32: You award yourself the violet ribbon, so you no longer qualify for 
it.
Day 12 15:32: 7 days have passed, so the qualification for the violet ribbon no 
longer counts against the 5 ribbons you need for a transparent ribbon.

-twg

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 12:03 PM, Reuben Staley  
wrote:

> Actually, that's false. You don't have to award yourself five ribbons to get 
> Transparent, you just have to meet the qualifications.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 01:45 Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
>
> > No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a 
> > (non-grey) ribbon against eir will is not necessarily a boon, because it 
> > makes it marginally more difficult to qualify for a transparent ribbon in 
> > the future. You already have one, but ATMunn and Corona don't. (Nor does 
> > Trigon but presumably e knows what e's doing.)
> >
> > -twg
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:46 AM, Kerim Aydin  
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh foo, I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons
> > > who doesn't have one yet.
> > >
> > > Notice of Honour
> > > +1 twg (reminding us)
> > > -1 Trigon (a little less helpful then twg here :P )
> > >
> > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Technically, any player can award any other player a ribbon e has 
> > > > earned.
> > > > I'm not going to do that, though. I award myself a Violet Ribbon.
> > > > On 10/30/2018 02:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The following players earned Violet Ribbons for participating in 
> > > > > PAoaM and
> > > > > can still claim them up until Saturday:
> > > > > ATMunn
> > > > > Corona
> > > > > G.
> > > > > Trigon
> > > > > (I internally debated with myself about whether to remind you, but my
> > > > > fairness-loving side won out.)
> > > > > -twg
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Trigon

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[Reuben Staley]

Actually, that's false. You don't have to award yourself five ribbons to
get Transparent, you just have to meet the qualifications.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 01:45 Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:

> No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a
> (non-grey) ribbon against eir will is not necessarily a boon, because it
> makes it marginally more difficult to qualify for a transparent ribbon in
> the future. You already have one, but ATMunn and Corona don't. (Nor does
> Trigon but presumably e knows what e's doing.)
>
> -twg
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:46 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Oh foo, I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons
> > who doesn't have one yet.
> >
> > Notice of Honour
> > +1 twg (reminding us)
> > -1 Trigon (a little less helpful then twg here :P )
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> >
> > > Technically, any player can award any other player a ribbon e has
> earned.
> > > I'm not going to do that, though. I award myself a Violet Ribbon.
> > > On 10/30/2018 02:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> > >
> > > > The following players earned Violet Ribbons for participating in
> PAoaM and
> > > > can still claim them up until Saturday:
> > > > ATMunn
> > > > Corona
> > > > G.
> > > > Trigon
> > > > (I internally debated with myself about whether to remind you, but my
> > > > fairness-loving side won out.)
> > > > -twg
> > >
> > > --
> > > Trigon
>
>
>

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

[Timon Walshe-Grey]

No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a 
(non-grey) ribbon against eir will is not necessarily a boon, because it makes 
it marginally more difficult to qualify for a transparent ribbon in the future. 
You already have one, but ATMunn and Corona don't. (Nor does Trigon but 
presumably e knows what e's doing.)

-twg


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:46 AM, Kerim Aydin  
wrote:

>
>
> Oh foo, I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons
> who doesn't have one yet.
>
> Notice of Honour
> +1 twg (reminding us)
> -1 Trigon (a little less helpful then twg here :P )
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
>
> > Technically, any player can award any other player a ribbon e has earned.
> > I'm not going to do that, though. I award myself a Violet Ribbon.
> > On 10/30/2018 02:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> >
> > > The following players earned Violet Ribbons for participating in PAoaM and
> > > can still claim them up until Saturday:
> > > ATMunn
> > > Corona
> > > G.
> > > Trigon
> > > (I internally debated with myself about whether to remind you, but my
> > > fairness-loving side won out.)
> > > -twg
> >
> > --
> > Trigon