Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contracts] Six secret contracts.
Yeah, I intended that to be part of it, but it really doesn't matter. -- Trigon currently on a phone On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 18:35 ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/2020 7:42 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > > I consent to the following six contracts: > > *cries in notary* > > (jk its not a big deal) > > quick question though: is the "Contract No. N:" meant to be a part of > the title or no? > > -- > ATMunn > friendly neighborhood notary here :) >
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contracts] Six secret contracts.
On 2020-06-19 17:57, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: So... is there anything stopping these contracts from just letting you transfer all of our assets to yourself (besides, of course, our limitless trust in your good nature)? Nope! :) -- Trigon Treasuror of Agora; Former Speaker (twice), Rulekeepor (12 months) and Cartographor (8 months) of Agora; Champion of Agora by High Score and Proposal; Bearer of the Badge of the Salted Earth; Founder of the League of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping; Arcadian Revivalist; Sixth-Longest Continually Registered Player of Agora; Player and former Emperor of BlogNomic; Player, Book-keeper, and Originator of the Metaruleset of Infinite Nomic; Contributor to the nomic.club wiki and the Talk:Nomic page on Wikipedia.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 23:55, Rebecca wrote: > I retract that proposal and substitute this one. > > Title: No secret contracts > AI: 2.5 > Text: Destroy each contract the full text of which has not been posted in > public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it was. > Nobody will be able to tell the difference. > Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known as a > contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in public, > it is known as a contract" Rather than destroying contracts that haven't been posted publicly, which seems kind of messy, why not just legislate that they're not contracts? Your rule change might already do that, or maybe replacing "When the full text ... it is known as a contract" with "If the full text ... it is known as a contract" would do it? -- - Falsifian
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:59 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On 7/24/2019 4:56 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > Although actually, I think the "put it back exactly the same" clause means > > that even the momentary destruction of Agora wouldn't fall afoul of the > > higher power rules > > I wholly disagree, and for historical reasons would vote against any > discontinuities anyway (or risks thereof), even instantaneous ones. -G. Hear, hear! -Aris
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
On 7/24/2019 4:56 PM, Rebecca wrote: Although actually, I think the "put it back exactly the same" clause means that even the momentary destruction of Agora wouldn't fall afoul of the higher power rules I wholly disagree, and for historical reasons would vote against any discontinuities anyway (or risks thereof), even instantaneous ones. -G.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
Although actually, I think the "put it back exactly the same" clause means that even the momentary destruction of Agora wouldn't fall afoul of the higher power rules On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:55 AM Rebecca wrote: > I retract that proposal and substitute this one. > > Title: No secret contracts > AI: 2.5 > Text: Destroy each contract the full text of which has not been posted in > public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it was. > Nobody will be able to tell the difference. > Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known as a > contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in public, > it is known as a contract" > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:54 AM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Okay, you may be right, but it would be a lot safer to use "each", so >> why don't you? >> >> -Aris >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:52 PM Rebecca wrote: >> > >> > I don't think so because the full text of the Agoran ruleset has been >> > posted in public, and it's the ruleset we all agree to. >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:43 AM Aris Merchant < >> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > This doesn't work. It possibly tries to destroy Agora, which is >> > > impossible due to power constraints. Since you said "all contracts", >> > > if you can't destroy one, you fail to destroy all of them. Try >> > > "destroy each contract..." >> > > >> > > -Aris >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:11 PM Rebecca >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > I create the following proposal yea boi >> > > > Title: No secret contracts >> > > > AI: 2.5 >> > > > Text: Destroy all contracts the full text of which has not been >> posted in >> > > > public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it >> was. >> > > > Nobody will be able to tell the difference. >> > > > Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known >> as a >> > > > contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in >> > > public, >> > > > it is known as a contract" >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > From R. Lee >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > From R. Lee >> > > > -- > From R. Lee > -- >From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
If there's a proposal resolved immediately before this one, with a rule change in it, the full text will not have been published at that moment. (it may be inferred from public info, but it won't have actually have been published). On 7/24/2019 4:52 PM, Rebecca wrote: I don't think so because the full text of the Agoran ruleset has been posted in public, and it's the ruleset we all agree to. On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:43 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: This doesn't work. It possibly tries to destroy Agora, which is impossible due to power constraints. Since you said "all contracts", if you can't destroy one, you fail to destroy all of them. Try "destroy each contract..." -Aris On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:11 PM Rebecca wrote: I create the following proposal yea boi Title: No secret contracts AI: 2.5 Text: Destroy all contracts the full text of which has not been posted in public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it was. Nobody will be able to tell the difference. Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known as a contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in public, it is known as a contract" -- From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
Okay, you may be right, but it would be a lot safer to use "each", so why don't you? -Aris On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:52 PM Rebecca wrote: > > I don't think so because the full text of the Agoran ruleset has been > posted in public, and it's the ruleset we all agree to. > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:43 AM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > This doesn't work. It possibly tries to destroy Agora, which is > > impossible due to power constraints. Since you said "all contracts", > > if you can't destroy one, you fail to destroy all of them. Try > > "destroy each contract..." > > > > -Aris > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:11 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > > > > I create the following proposal yea boi > > > Title: No secret contracts > > > AI: 2.5 > > > Text: Destroy all contracts the full text of which has not been posted in > > > public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it was. > > > Nobody will be able to tell the difference. > > > Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known as a > > > contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in > > public, > > > it is known as a contract" > > > > > > -- > > > From R. Lee > > > > > -- > From R. Lee
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contracts
I don't think so because the full text of the Agoran ruleset has been posted in public, and it's the ruleset we all agree to. On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:43 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > This doesn't work. It possibly tries to destroy Agora, which is > impossible due to power constraints. Since you said "all contracts", > if you can't destroy one, you fail to destroy all of them. Try > "destroy each contract..." > > -Aris > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:11 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > > I create the following proposal yea boi > > Title: No secret contracts > > AI: 2.5 > > Text: Destroy all contracts the full text of which has not been posted in > > public. If this destroyed Agora, put it back again the same as it was. > > Nobody will be able to tell the difference. > > Amend the rule "Contracts" by changing "Such an agreement is known as a > > contract." to "When the full text of such an agreement is posted in > public, > > it is known as a contract" > > > > -- > > From R. Lee > -- >From R. Lee
