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No I mean just using it to raise cash. More interesting than just collecting a minimum wage, requires some effort at least. That's why I suggested making a higher-creation-rate version that couldn't be collected for a Win. (I mean a minimum wage is the ultimate "just sitting there"). On Tue,

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Routinely buying Stamps low and selling high to eventually buy your win doesn't feel very interesting to me (but I'm doing it myself because it's just the best thing to do rn). It's just sitting and getting your loyalty card stamped and then getting rewarded for it. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:52

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > This is the core of G.’s protest: there’s nothing to drive transaction > volume, > so prices sink inexorably towards the lowest value they _can_ reach. Seeing the recent fluctuation, Stamp speculation seems like a nice ride to jump on, especially

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > It's time for Agoran Economy: Venezuela edition : P > > No but in seriousness, we have a single fixed price which is the Welcome > Package, which I believe is to blame for most of the shiny drought. It's just > too

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Woah. I was thinking maybe 25% quarterly inflation. Anything much more > than that is a tad extreme, no? Look at the current situation. We have, nominally, 1k shinies. As of the start of the week,

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If they were my friend, they would say Publius. In writing, they would write P. Scribonius. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>

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Likely much like we do today lol. Roman grafitti is very funny and strikingly similar to us nowadays: http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > (also, for what it's worth, I also go hunting for PSS's full name and copy/ > paste whenever I need it :P ) Actually I've been meaning to ask: how would a fellow Roman back in the day refer to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus (i.e. informally)? Would it

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I suppose it's better than "Josh". Don't overdo it, I guess, but it's not like I can stop you. 天火狐 On 10 September 2017 at 20:58, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I'll do "Fox" then (much how I say PSS and not the full name every lol) > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Kerim Aydin

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I'll do "Fox" then (much how I say PSS and not the full name every lol) On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > (also, for what it's worth, I also go hunting for PSS's full name and copy/ > paste whenever I need it :P ) > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kerim

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(also, for what it's worth, I also go hunting for PSS's full name and copy/ paste whenever I need it :P ) On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Thanks! I was remembering that you'd given a favored transliteration back > then, but couldn't find it. > > I think I'll add this as gratuitous

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Thanks! I was remembering that you'd given a favored transliteration back then, but couldn't find it. I think I'll add this as gratuitous arguments to that case log, so I'll know where to find it :). On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote: > I thought I posted it somewhere, but evidently I didn't.

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I thought I posted it somewhere, but evidently I didn't. I wrote it when the CFJ said that I should change it to a transliteration thereof, and provide a preferred reading. The preferred reading/transliteration is "amatsukagitsune" and translates to "celestial fire-fox" (with that reading---there

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天火狐, would you be willing to supply either a transliteration of the Japanese sounds to your desired spelling, or go by "The sky fox"? (I think that latter choice is slightly off your desired translation IIRC). I'll respect it if you don't, but I'm always pausing to go copy and paste when

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yeah e should be referred to as 天火狐 but it's not a memorable word. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Nicknames are common law issues. But ratified Registrar’s reports contradict > that and if they don’t they will

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Nicknames are common law issues. But ratified Registrar’s reports contradict that and if they don’t they will in the future. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:13 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Eir agoran nickname is

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Eir agoran nickname is Josh T, as judged in a CFJ I believe. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Then, you aren’t respecting him or his wishes. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >

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Then, you aren’t respecting him or his wishes. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Dude I'm not writing that japanese lol > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Josh T

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Dude I'm not writing that japanese lol On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Josh T wrote: > I would prefer to be addressed by what I sign my emails, not what the > header says. > > 天火狐 > > On 10 September 2017 at 19:54, Cuddle Beam wrote: > >>

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For me those are the same. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Josh T wrote: > > I would prefer to be addressed by what I sign my emails, not what the header > says. > > 天火狐 > > On 10 September

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I would prefer to be addressed by what I sign my emails, not what the header says. 天火狐 On 10 September 2017 at 19:54, Cuddle Beam wrote: > @Josh we really need that corkboard. > > I really should get to making that. Please link me/pasta me your Agency > and I'll add it as

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@Josh we really need that corkboard. I really should get to making that. Please link me/pasta me your Agency and I'll add it as another business opportunity for you to it. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Josh T wrote: > > Vote purchases/sells when > > Have you not

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> Vote purchases/sells when Have you not seen my latest Agency? 天火狐 On 10 September 2017 at 19:45, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I'd make it so that each new player has something to bargain with though, > to start. Maybe encourage them to sell APs or Trust Tokens. > > Feels a bit

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I'd make it so that each new player has something to bargain with though, to start. Maybe encourage them to sell APs or Trust Tokens. Feels a bit like Mad Max and I love it. I enjoy entrepreneurship a lot, I'd love to see people open businesses and make business myself. >Loan Bank when >AP

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This is the direction that I am going with my ideas. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Time to get serious and allow Agora to float a bond issue and privately > finance

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I like this a LOT. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:30 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > We could go full libertarian style. Gov't owns no money, instead give > it all to players and private banks. No rewards, you get reports when > you pay for them. CFJs are removed and private arbitration

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We could go full libertarian style. Gov't owns no money, instead give it all to players and private banks. No rewards, you get reports when you pay for them. CFJs are removed and private arbitration rules. New players get all their money from starting a goddamn business, or charity. On Mon, Sep

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I like the idea of Agora being able to be in debt with players. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:12 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Time to get serious and allow Agora to float a bond issue and privately > finance eir debt. > > Other ideas: > - V.J. Rada's idea of right-sizing

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Time to get serious and allow Agora to float a bond issue and privately finance eir debt. Other ideas: - V.J. Rada's idea of right-sizing to number of players is a good one, as part of the float calculations possibly. - How about *deflation*. Allow fractional values, I'm curious if

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The reason Agora has a shiny crisis is that the number of existing players weren't accounted for when deciding how much the Supply Level should be. It really needed to be 2000, to give us more of a margin. Oh well. -Aris On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:

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There's also the problem that it's actually desirable to keep Agora as bone dry as possible, to manipulate the Floating Value. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:49 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Maybe tie inflation to new players? So firstly add like an "emergency > fund" of 100 or so now,

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It's time for Agoran Economy: Venezuela edition : P No but in seriousness, we have a single fixed price which is the Welcome Package, which I believe is to blame for most of the shiny drought. It's just too much in comparison to the total amount of shinies Agora has in total, imo. If we had more

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Maybe tie inflation to new players? So firstly add like an "emergency fund" of 100 or so now, and then whenever a new player joins increase agora's balance by that %. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Note that any scheme that says you can get

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How would you feel about it if nichdel’s changes were used? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > P.S.S., if you want this distributed this week you should pend it

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Note that any scheme that says you can get something for having less than a certain level of liquid assets can be scammed by two people passing their assets back and forth. in past economies, any form of progressive wealth distribution pretty much instantly led to tax avoidance contracts

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i mean agora is broke and people cant get welcome packages. not like inflation matters that much because price of things that people actually buy is rulically fixed. ppl ain't exchanging w/ each other much rn. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Aris Merchant

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My way will be automated in a variety of ways. If you would like to contribute, I can add you as a collaborator. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Woah. I was

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Woah. I was thinking maybe 25% quarterly inflation. Anything much more than that is a tad extreme, no? -Aris On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I think we just need to print more banknotes. I don't think the economy will > destabilize much if we double

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I think we just need to print more banknotes. I don't think the economy will destabilize much if we double or triple the amount of shinies available, for example. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I am working

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I am working on an economic redesign in line with my previous ideas. You can view and comment on it in the working-copy-002 branch of my fork of the ruleset. Once it approaches further completion, I will post a photo for comment. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

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I like this idea, but how are things handled when Agora has too few shinies. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > Simple proto: At the eginning of the m9nth, every player who has 0

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Simple proto: At the eginning of the m9nth, every player who has 0 stamps and less than the current stamp value in shinies can and may claim enough shinies to have whatever the stamp value was at 00:00 on the first of the month. On Sep 10, 2017 4:46 PM, "Kerim Aydin"

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On 09/10/17 16:40, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I will definitely do this in the future. Would you recommend retracting this > and replacing it? > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com I don't think it's necessary, the intent seems unambiguous

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I will definitely do this in the future. Would you recommend retracting this and replacing it? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 10, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > WRT to this style of proposal: > > > On 09/10/17