Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ruben Roa
>Hi > >I'm analysing fisheries data (number of fish caught per hour) and I have some 0 values. When I log-trans I have to translate the values by hading some value. I guess you mean you have to do something arbitrary about the zeros before the log transform. The delta distribution is a generaliza

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi The data are not discrete. We collect number per hour, so it's a yield ! Thanks EJ On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 15:27, Nicholas Lewin-Koh wrote: > Hi, > If the data are counts, ie integer number of fish and not tons, you > might want to try a discrete model such as a negative binomial or > Poisson

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Syed Abdul Rahman Shibli
If the skewness of the fish data is causing havoc to your variograms try one of the more "robust" measures, i.e. the family of relative variograms (general/pairwise), or the non-ergodic covariance. Transformation would mask the extreme values which may or may not be very significant to your prob

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Isobel Clark
Ernesto There are several ways of tackling skewed data with zeroes and I am sure you will get emails from proponents of this or that other contributor. Ways which I have found useful: (1) try a lognormal probability plot and see whether you have a straight line or if it drops off the line at lo

AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi I'm analysing fisheries data (number of fish caught per hour) and I have some 0 values. When I log-trans I have to translate the values by hading some value. My question is which value is the best ? is there any works about this ? I usually had 1 so that I get values between 0 and infinite (

AI-GEOSTATS: Grade tonnage curves

2002-10-02 Thread Mark Burnett Deelkraal
Here is the feedback that I received on the grade tonnage curve topic. Less than I thought and there appear to be relatively few books (in print/ readily available) that go into detail on this topic. Thanks to all that responded. Regards Mark Burnett Alastair Sinclair's reply Mark A good bas

AI-GEOSTATS: about GS+

2002-10-02 Thread Ercan Yesilirmak
Dear list members Is there anyone who is using GS+? I have a question on it. Regards Ercan Yesilirmak __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- * To post a message to the list, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED