Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-03 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi I was investigating my data and it is possible to identifie areas of zeros on the outside limits of the distribution, so it can be possible to model the spatial behaviour in two steps. My guess is that I can simple reduce the kriging area to leave the zero area out. My doubt is how to

AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi I'm analysing fisheries data (number of fish caught per hour) and I have some 0 values. When I log-trans I have to translate the values by hading some value. My question is which value is the best ? is there any works about this ? I usually had 1 so that I get values between 0 and infinite

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Isobel Clark
Ernesto There are several ways of tackling skewed data with zeroes and I am sure you will get emails from proponents of this or that other contributor. Ways which I have found useful: (1) try a lognormal probability plot and see whether you have a straight line or if it drops off the line at

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Syed Abdul Rahman Shibli
problem domain. Thereafter krige within a limited search neighborhood or try an indicator approach at various thresholds. Syed Original message Date: 02 Oct 2002 12:24:57 +0100 From: Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros To: Mailing List AI

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ernesto Jardim
Hi The data are not discrete. We collect number per hour, so it's a yield ! Thanks EJ On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 15:27, Nicholas Lewin-Koh wrote: Hi, If the data are counts, ie integer number of fish and not tons, you might want to try a discrete model such as a negative binomial or Poisson. I

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Log transformation and zeros

2002-10-02 Thread Ruben Roa
Hi I'm analysing fisheries data (number of fish caught per hour) and I have some 0 values. When I log-trans I have to translate the values by hading some value. I guess you mean you have to do something arbitrary about the zeros before the log transform. The delta distribution is a