Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Christopher Hunt
Hi Roland, > On 3 Feb 2018, at 5:56 pm, Roland Kuhn wrote: > > I agree on the tendency. In the case of Akka there are two reasons for using > reflection and neither of them is caused by a lack of static types: > extensibility and remote marshaling. A new implementation

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Roland Kuhn
Sent from my iPhone > On 3. Feb 2018, at 07:25, Christopher Hunt wrote: > > Hi Roland, > >> On 3 Feb 2018, at 5:16 pm, Roland Kuhn wrote: >> >> could you elaborate on how exactly Akka Typed is expected to help with your >> use-case? The only

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Christopher Hunt
Hi Roland, > On 3 Feb 2018, at 5:16 pm, Roland Kuhn wrote: > > could you elaborate on how exactly Akka Typed is expected to help with your > use-case? The only difference I can see is that the new (and currently > removed) implementation contained fewer extension points,

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Roland Kuhn
Hi Christopher, could you elaborate on how exactly Akka Typed is expected to help with your use-case? The only difference I can see is that the new (and currently removed) implementation contained fewer extension points, but that is unrelated to whether ActorRef has a type parameter or not.

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Konrad “ktoso” Malawski
Really Christopher… we’re not heavy on reflection, check other libraries in the Java ecosystem ;-) The single reflection things we have is classOf style actor creation, and initial startup things, that’s it. -- Cheers, Konrad 'ktoso ' Malawski Akka @ Lightbend

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Christopher Hunt
Thanks for the reply Konrad. Although my use-case is somewhat forced by working with constrained device memory and enterprise security, I think that there’s a broader concern. My understanding is that the JVM is embracing ahead of time compilation and the potential for dead code elimination

Re: [akka-user] Akka, Akka Typed and dead code elimination

2018-02-02 Thread Konrad “ktoso” Malawski
Hi Christopher, I’ve worked in the past on an Scala on Android project, so have had the “pleasure” of battling proguard for similar reasons. In general I guess the “core stuff” needs to be kept, which would mostly be the akka.actor and dungeon things. AFAIR proguard is ale to understand