Re: [sword-devel] Verses that are [partly] a title ....

2014-12-29 Thread DM Smith
I agree with Greg that the begin title and the begin verse should be reversed. That, of course, will result in the orphaning of the verse number from the title, placing the verse number at the beginning of the line preceding the title. I think that we should approach this as two issues: proper

Re: [sword-devel] A call for Python programmers ...

2014-12-29 Thread DM Smith
usfm2osis was originally written in perl. Chris re-wrote it in python. It has progressed/diverged significantly since then. In Him, DM On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 28/12/14 20:06, David Haslam wrote: With Chris being otherwise engaged,

Re: [sword-devel] A call for Python programmers ...

2014-12-29 Thread DM Smith
Python is a pretty easy language for a programmer to learn. I’ve read a book on how to program in it. There’s a nice tutorial on the python website. But I’ve not done any serious programming in python. Just maintenance and debugging. The only thing I found bothersome was the strict use of

Re: [sword-devel] New modules

2014-12-29 Thread DM Smith
On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 11:45 +, Martin Denham wrote: Hi, Regarding: 'JSword frontends will be able to download these modules only once the Cron had its nightly run re permission update and zip making.' See the

Re: [sword-devel] A call for Python programmers ...

2014-12-29 Thread DM Smith
On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Robert Hunt hunt.robe...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/12/14 06:29, Peter von Kaehne wrote: It is very well written and neatly done and does its job with near perfection. I would welcome contributions to it, as long as they are equally well done. Just for your info:

Re: [sword-devel] Should there be a suitable delimiter before verses appended by osis2mod?

2014-12-28 Thread DM Smith
No it does not preserve the verse tag. Long time ago there was *a* version of osis2mod that did, but that was quickly reverted. Only one module was released with the verse tags. It was a German module. The verse tag is the only content that is not preserved. — DM On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:44 PM,

Re: [sword-devel] Should there be a suitable delimiter before verses appended by osis2mod?

2014-12-28 Thread DM Smith
Lots of difficulty here. Currently, the SWORD engine leaves it to the front-end to place the the verse number in the fashion that the front-end (user) desires. Basically, for each “verse” the front-end will ask for pre-verse (aka headings) content and then the verse content. It will place the

Re: [sword-devel] Verses that are [partly] a title ....

2014-12-28 Thread DM Smith
I’m really not clear on what you mean. It’d be helpful to have the OSIS fragment that is being fed to osis2mod. It really does not make sense that a title is place at the end of a verse, even though that is perfectly acceptable OSIS. A person viewing a verse in isolation probably would be

Re: [sword-devel] Verses that are [partly] a title ....

2014-12-28 Thread DM Smith
See comments below: On Dec 28, 2014, at 5:23 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I can provide the OSIS fragment tomorrow. Too late right now, almost bedtime. The translation editing was implemented in USFM by using Paratext. The translator knows nothing of OSIS. Then it is not

Re: [sword-devel] Milestoned Poetry

2014-12-25 Thread DM Smith
The x attributes are a means of retaining markup in the source text. Ignore them as them next update won't have them. I figured out how they should be represented. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:41 AM, David Judah's Shadow Blue yudahssha...@gmx.com wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS xlit and OSIS Enum ?

2014-12-19 Thread DM Smith
All except the OSIS header and the verse elements. This is well documented in the wiki on osis2mod. -- DM On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:28 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Not all data in an OSIS source file makes it into a module, does it?

Re: [sword-devel] CipherKey preservation on update

2014-12-17 Thread DM Smith
One of the things that we’ve tossed about for a while is keeping the conf of the module pristine and storing the cipher key in another file. That other file would hold all the frontend edits for the confs. It would have the form: [NASB] CipherKey=asdf [KJV] Font=yadayadayada … I was going to

Re: [sword-devel] Using the -N option in osis2mod ?

2014-12-15 Thread DM Smith
I cannot reproduce the problem. Using -N prevents the running of normalization code. Files are properly written. — DM On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:03 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I have just created an issue in our tracker. http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MODTOOLS-80

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread DM Smith
On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Peter Von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 um 13:16 Uhr Von: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org Not sure, but I thought we used optional prefixes to specify the kind of gloss if there are multiple, e.g.,

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup for gen books and devotionals

2014-09-22 Thread DM Smith
of these elements. This does not directly translate into HTML. Also, the preverse div (opening and closing elements) needs to never produce vertical whitespace. There already have been lots of threads on this. In Him, DM Smith On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:40 AM, ref...@gmx.net wrote: I would guess

Re: [sword-devel] Small fix for Luke 1:68 in KJV

2014-07-13 Thread DM Smith
Thanks! I'll look into it. In Him, DM On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:40 AM, vtamara vtam...@pasosdejesus.org wrote: Dear friends In the published KJV module and in http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2006/sword/2011/kjv-osis-201402190055.zip Luke 1:68 includes: ... of Israel; w

Re: [sword-devel] Using the -N option in osis2mod ?

2014-06-25 Thread DM Smith
Reading that bug report, which is quite old and still actively open, I found the following that might be of some interest: http://www.sbl-site.org/Fonts/SBLHebrewUserManual1.5x.pdf On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:35 AM, David Troidl davidtro...@aol.com wrote: In developing the MapM, we came across the

Re: [sword-devel] Using the -N option in osis2mod ?

2014-06-24 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:06 AM, David Haslam wrote: Any suggestions? Is the wiki not clear? Our std is to make NF(K)C modules. By default osis2mod ensures this. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] RTFHTML filter bugs

2014-05-22 Thread DM Smith
find it likely that valid UTF-8 strings might be accepted by a perfectly correct CP1252 encoding checker as valid CP1252. Jaak On 21.05.2014 17:45, DM Smith wrote: The encoding of the conf is either cp1252 (the default, but called latin 1) or utf-8. The encoding of the conf matches

Re: [sword-devel] RTFHTML filter bugs

2014-05-21 Thread DM Smith
The encoding of the conf is either cp1252 (the default, but called latin 1) or utf-8. The encoding of the conf matches that of the module. This may cause the conf to be read twice once for the default and once for UTF-8, if the module encoding is set to UTF-8. There have been confs that are

Re: [sword-devel] RTF in About field of .conf files

2014-05-18 Thread DM Smith
Only a subset is allowed in the conf. The following page gives details. SwordWeb and JSword assume that the field is RTF even if plain text. \oar looks like a typo for \par. http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:conf_Files On May 18, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Jaak Ristioja j...@ristioja.ee wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS markup best practice: sanity check

2014-05-02 Thread DM Smith
On May 2, 2014, at 3:36 AM, John Austin gpl.programs.i...@gmail.com wrote: - There will be a Scope parameter in the .conf file, formatted as an osisID of the specified v11n, which details the books, chapters, and verses that are included in the entire module. The Scope param is the only way

Re: [sword-devel] KJV ae character merge

2014-04-19 Thread DM Smith
This is correct. Different modern editions of the KJV differ from older editions of the KJV with regard to this. I'm using an older edition that has it as a single character in most, but not all, places. In Him, DM Smith On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP xref encoding error

2014-04-10 Thread DM Smith
Both are bad. See below. On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: I got a Xiphos crash report this morning from someone using CzeCSP. The error is that there are xref encoding glitches that Sword fails to parse, which cause Xiphos to crash when trying to

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP xref encoding error

2014-04-10 Thread DM Smith
On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 10:09 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: I got a Xiphos crash report this morning from someone using CzeCSP. The error is that there are xref encoding glitches that Sword fails to parse, which cause Xiphos to

Re: [sword-devel] spoj element [Was: Re: Partial Strong's and Robinson's w]

2014-03-28 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 28, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 12:00 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: Similar question is element spoj (from Czech “union” == “spojení”) in the source document. When the Greek expression needs to be present in multiple words, they are in

Re: [sword-devel] spoj element [Was: Re: Partial Strong's and Robinson's w]

2014-03-28 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 14:20 -0400, DM Smith wrote: I'm not sure what you are asking. But I'll guess it is one of the following. Apparently, I have again missed how my question leads to much more complicated world. What I meant

Re: [sword-devel] spoj element [Was: Re: Partial Strong's and Robinson's w]

2014-03-28 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 20:57 -0400, DM Smith wrote: They would display the text in the same fashion as not being in w.../w. You can add type=x-spoj if you like to retain information from the input. Good idea. Is there some

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] Method to find if BibleBook is contained in a Book

2014-03-26 Thread DM Smith
, the NET Bible has some bugs that should be fixed. But instead we have some special code that is essentially: if module is NET then fix such-and-so when it occurs. Together in His Service, DM Smith On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:43 PM, John Austin gpl.programs.i...@gmail.com wrote: There has

Re: [sword-devel] Tables across verse boundaries

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
The other type of markup that is list like is for poetry and such stanza-like text. The lg, line group, is meant as a container for l, lines, where each line can have a level, indicating the indent level. In our wiki on OSIS, we note that if the level attribute is absent, we presume it is

Re: [sword-devel] Welsh beibl.net complete Bible

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:31 AM, Peter Von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com Module building is held up due to unsolved issues in usfm2osis.py as reported in MODTOOLS. As a general kind of suggestion, in order to improve priority setting in bug squashing

Re: [sword-devel] Site nav changes?

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
I think it was a long time ago. Software in the banner consistently leads to www.crosswire.org/applications. When you get to the applications page, scroll to the software you want and click on it's link. When I scroll to The SWORD Project for Windows and click on its link it goes to the

Re: [sword-devel] Site nav changes?

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
cannot find any discoverable links to this page on the site and just received a complaint in IRC from a visitor who could not figure out how to download the Sword API tarballs. --Greg On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:47 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I think it was a long time ago

Re: [sword-devel] module driver reorganization proposal

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
Chris, Your suggestion is very similar to JSword's implementation. It has simplified code maintenance. There are three types of module files: index, compression index and data files. It may do well to handle these separately. The index consists of fixed sized entries consisting of parts. For a

Re: [sword-devel] Tables across verse boundaries

2014-03-18 Thread DM Smith
, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DM, On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Hello I'm looking at converting a module that has tables across verse boundaries

Re: [sword-devel] Tables across verse boundaries

2014-03-17 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Hello I'm looking at converting a module that has tables across verse boundaries... Is this supported? It should be. At least by osis2mod. I don't know if SWORD renderers have code for tables. I'll leave that for

[sword-devel] Jira under maintenance

2014-03-15 Thread DM Smith
I'm upgrading Jira to 6.2. I've just taken a backup of Jira and any changes from this point until I'm done may be lost. At some point Jira will go down. W/o notice. W/o nice explanation page. I'll let you know when it is back. Please be patient. In Him, DM smime.p7s Description:

Re: [sword-devel] Jira under maintenance

2014-03-15 Thread DM Smith
It's back. On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:04 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I'm upgrading Jira to 6.2. I've just taken a backup of Jira and any changes from this point until I'm done may be lost. At some point Jira will go down. W/o notice. W/o nice explanation page. I'll let you know

Re: [sword-devel] Jira is down

2014-03-06 Thread DM Smith
It was a group effort. Thanks to all that helped. Especially Troy. -- DM On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:10 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: The tracker is back up again. Three cheers for DM. David -- View this message in context:

[sword-devel] Jira is down

2014-03-05 Thread DM Smith
Our tracker has crashed. It'll take time to get it back up. Hopefully today after work. In Him, DM smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel display of modules with varying v11ns

2014-02-28 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Костя, IOn 02/28/2014 08:14 AM, Костя Маслюк wrote: Ok. I have got following: http://crosswire.org/~kalemas/work/v11nmapping/paralleldisplay.html Amazing! This looks really great! Daniel 3 is a nice test

Re: [sword-devel] Using JIRA

2014-02-28 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: How do I mark an issue as resolved if it is long gone, but not marked as so? Just click on the Resolve Issue button, get the resolve screen, fill it out and submit it. Do I need special rights and how do I get them? Hope

Re: [sword-devel] Using JIRA

2014-02-28 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Peter Von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Do I need special rights and how do I get them? Hope not. If not, I can grant them. It looks like as if I can

Re: [sword-devel] Project “Free Scriptures” started

2014-02-27 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Stephan Kreutzer skreut...@freiebibel.de wrote: The original, printed KJV is difficult to pin down. It certainly is not the 1611. That's easy to show. When I started working on it, the claim was that it was the 1769 edition. I've not been able to find such an

Re: [sword-devel] Project Free Scriptures started

2014-02-26 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Though as an aside, just from a personal query, how do you guys get Windows and GUI Mac users to use git? I have at least 2 ancillary projects with SVN repos on CrossWire's server where the users are not programmers,

Re: [sword-devel] Architecture and DVCS - was : Re: Project Free Scriptures started

2014-02-26 Thread DM Smith
Rather than continuing hijacking the prior thread, I'm actually breaking this out to a new top level thread. It will be easier to follow in the mailman listing. JSword has benefited from going to git, especially with collaboration. The vocabulary of git is interesting and perhaps off-putting

Re: [sword-devel] Architecture and DVCS - was : Re: Project Free Scriptures started

2014-02-26 Thread DM Smith
On 26 February 2014 16:08, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Rather than continuing hijacking the prior thread, I'm actually breaking this out to a new top level thread. It will be easier to follow in the mailman listing. JSword has benefited from going to git, especially

Re: [sword-devel] verse position problems

2014-02-25 Thread DM Smith
Where are you seeing this problem of verse placement numbers? Some of the frontends have problem displaying verse numbers in the right place with RtoL text. Otherwise, I think it is a problem with your text. The verse number will be placed where the verse element starts. If you put a elements

Re: [sword-devel] verse position problems

2014-02-25 Thread DM Smith
Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: On 02/25/2014 02:22 PM, DM Smith wrote: Some of the frontends have problem displaying verse numbers in the right place with RtoL text. Otherwise, I think it is a problem with your text. The verse number will be placed where the verse element starts. It's

Re: [sword-devel] verse position problems

2014-02-25 Thread DM Smith
When you run osis2mod it displays the version number. What is it? You might be using a version that does not handle paragraph markup between verses. Otherwise: I think this may be solved in Bible Desktop, where we use arabic numbers so they flow with everything else. Can you give that a try.

Re: [sword-devel] verse position problems - osis2mod version

2014-02-25 Thread DM Smith
osis2mod from source. If you need help with that let us know. If you haven't been to our man page on the wiki, here is the link: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Osis2mod It gives the history of changes to the program. In Him, DM Smith On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:37 PM, Shane Cooke shaneco

Re: [sword-devel] Project “Free Scriptures” started

2014-02-24 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Stephan Kreutzer skreut...@freiebibel.de wrote: The only module that we retain the text for is the KJV. I am the maintainer for that source, and if you'd like it, just ask. It is freely available, but I've not been very good on making it clear what is the most

Re: [sword-devel] Project Free Scriptures started

2014-02-24 Thread DM Smith
Small correction: JSword is part of The SWORD Project and was created by members of CrossWire Bible Society. We've also created SWIG and Corba bindings so that the SWORD library is available in many contexts. Many of the modules have been licensed to CrossWire for use by The SWORD Project. Not

Re: [sword-devel] Project “Free Scriptures” started

2014-02-23 Thread DM Smith
collaboration with us on our effort. Hope this makes sense to you and that you understand. In His Service, DM Smith On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Stephan Kreutzer skreut...@freiebibel.de wrote: Hello, I just want to announce that the project “Free Scriptures” (see http://www.free

Re: [sword-devel] Site is down?

2014-02-18 Thread DM Smith
First I heard about the wiki. Odd problem. May take some time. In Him, DM On Feb 18, 2014, at 4:29 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Main site is now back online, as is the mailman. Thanks Troy. Some services still have technical difficulties, such as the wiki. No

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-17 Thread DM Smith
Yesterday, I sent you the link to the page I added. On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:35 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: OK, let's add a new page called KJV2014 in your user space. I can do that, once crosswire.org is back online. Currently... The connection has timed out The server

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
I think I fixed the install problem. If everyone could check again that'd be great! There was a directory permission problem which made the files invisible to FTP and HTTP. The files were there and had the right size. When the module was zipped the zipping program could see the files but could

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
it. Module looked like I expected. In Him, DM On Feb 16, 2014, at 8:02 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I think I fixed the install problem. If everyone could check again that'd be great! There was a directory permission problem which made the files invisible to FTP and HTTP

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
I really have no idea where to get it. It may need to be a manual effort. I'm not really interested in notes and cross references from other resources. The best I've found so far is a 1611 facsimile. That'd be a lot of work. Same with titles. In Him, DM Smith On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
Let's use a new page. I've addressed what was on those pages. It'd be good so I don't get confused. Which is much easier to do these days ;) In Him, DM On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:00 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: FYI. It will be most helpful for detailed anomalies (such

Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
, DM Smith On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: On 02/16/2014 08:44 AM, DM Smith wrote: In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is pretty cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers. In Xiphos, I happened across

Re: [sword-devel] error matthew 9:10 strong's number Jesus

2014-02-15 Thread DM Smith
the mapping. BTW, 846 in the Greek is αυτου, which is genative singular masculine. Yes, reflexive. It makes sense that those that tagged the KJV would have retained the order of 3 and 16/17, mapping 3 to Jesus and 16/17 to him. Should have this out shortly. In Him, DM Smith On Feb 15, 2014

[sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-15 Thread DM Smith
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Re: [sword-devel] OSIS format and SWORD utils

2014-02-14 Thread DM Smith
We refer to the two formats as BSP and BCV, or Book/Section/Paragraph and Book/Chapter/Verse. All of our programs use BCV and osis2mod ensures that the module's representation internally is BCV. Given BSP, osis2mod will convert it to BCV. If you need markup that crosses Chapter boundaries

Re: [sword-devel] Problem with BibleTime ....

2014-02-07 Thread DM Smith
Each front-end has it's own group, mailing list, forums, which have lots of people who are best able to respond to front-end questions. Some of the BibleTime people are on this list, but you probably will get better response going direct. I'm interested in what you find. I think your

Re: [sword-devel] Where has the OSIS validation schema gone?

2014-02-07 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 2/5/2014 2:23 AM, David Haslam wrote: When I tried today to validate an OSIS XML file to http://www.bibletechnologies.net/osisCore.2.1.1.xsd I found a page that tells me that *ForMinistry.com is Closed*. ? Anyone

Re: [sword-devel] Problem with BibleTime ....

2014-02-07 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 7, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 07/02/14 22:15, DM Smith wrote: Each front-end has it's own group, mailing list, forums, which have lots of people who are best able to respond to front-end questions. Some of the BibleTime people are on this list

Re: [sword-devel] Sword LICENSE

2014-02-04 Thread DM Smith
FYI: You are only supposed to update a date range on a file of code when it changes. IMHO: Since copyright is a lot longer than any of us will experience, the actual end year is not that important. On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:30 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Suggest the license date

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-03 Thread DM Smith
Barry, It may not be obvious, but SWORD and osis2mod is really picky when it comes to Bible book names. Chris notes that the WEB OSIS file has errors in the Bible book names. These have to be fixed for osis2mod to not complain about something it does not know. Also, the chapter and verse

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-03 Thread DM Smith
* the problems. In His Service, DM Smith On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson kahunap...@ebible.org wrote: To the best of my knowledge, there are no Bible book name errors in the OSIS files I generate. There might be some ambiguity in the interpretation of book names

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-03 Thread DM Smith
it within the prior verse just before the verse end tag. In Him, DM Smith smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-02 Thread DM Smith
Try NRSVA. It has 4Macc. In Him, DM On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 02/02/14 11:20, Barry Drake wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently the only modern English Language version I can see that contains the deutero-canon is the CPDV version.

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-02 Thread DM Smith
references. For JSword, I hand construct them. Very tedious to ensure they are correct. In His service, DM On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 02/02/14 15:03, DM Smith wrote: Try NRSVA. It has 4Macc. Sadly, NRSVA outputs even more error messages than

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n modules - was Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-02-02 Thread DM Smith
On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 02/02/14 16:04, DM Smith wrote: IIRC, Chris has an automated tool to build a versification. In Perl, I think. It takes a list of verse references and spits out a v11n as a C++ header file. This would have to be added

Re: [sword-devel] Deuterocanonical books / Apocrypha

2014-01-31 Thread DM Smith
I'll add that there are several views regarding the deuterocanonical material: Two are stated earlier in the thread: Part of the Bible and Not part of the Bible. I'd give a third: Useful for scholarship. Greg has stated well what the theological position of The core libraries SWORD and JSword

Re: [sword-devel] JavaScript SWORD modules

2014-01-19 Thread DM Smith
Awesome!! On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: There has been much discussion of late about accessing Sword through JavaScript, producing JavaScript bindings for Sword, or porting Sword into JavaScript. JS provides a unique challenge because it is so

Re: [sword-devel] 1.7.2 release

2014-01-15 Thread DM Smith
I think we still need to try. If I had a bunch of paper Bibles that had different v11ns and (presuming I could read the variety of languages) sat down to line them up, I would find that it is hard because it is in front of me. If I were a novice, I might be royally confused, but that would be

Re: [sword-devel] Internal link via OSIS ref in GenBooks - bug?

2014-01-11 Thread DM Smith
I'm pretty sure that an osisRef defines . as a separator of parts and that / is not allowed. (I.e. won't validate). The OSIS manual is pretty clear that . is the separator. BTW, It doesn't matter to me what is chosen as the way we are going to do it. JSword has yet to implement it, yet. In

Re: [sword-devel] Internal link via OSIS ref in GenBooks - bug?

2014-01-11 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 1/11/2014 1:40 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: I have created a new GenBook module, the Dark Night of the Soul by John of the Cross (It will be submitted in short order) In the process I found that links do not work as

Re: [sword-devel] Statically compiled usfm2osis

2014-01-09 Thread DM Smith
I thought it was statically compiled. At least when I compile on Un*x. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Jan 9, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Teus Benschop teusjanne...@gmail.com wrote: David, Sorry, this was my mistake. I am looking for osis2mod which is part of the Sword library.

Re: [sword-devel] Statically compiled usfm2osis

2014-01-09 Thread DM Smith
I've always compiled it. Never used a distro of the SWORD lib or tools. It is easy enough to do, especially w/ cmake. In Him, DM Smith On Jan 9, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Most distro packages will use shared linkage. --Greg On Thu, Jan 9

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread DM Smith
I think your suggestion makes sense. It is how we do it in JSword. Several places I've run into the need to have a designation beyond lang: Portuguese (Portugal vs Brazil), Chinese (Traditional vs Simplified) and Arabic (Egypt vs ???). In the case of Chinese it is a script difference, but the

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 3, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 10:54 -0500, DM Smith wrote: BTW, I like how Java searches for localized resource files. The actual implementation is rather complex (because it searches multiple locations), but to simplify: Given

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:54:03AM -0500, DM Smith wrote: Several places I've run into the need to have a designation beyond lang: Portuguese (Portugal vs Brazil), Chinese (Traditional vs Simplified) and Arabic (Egypt vs

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread DM Smith
a display name for a language from our locales should be an acceptable use as well, as suggested here. We just need to be sure we are consistent between: module.conf: Lang=zh_Hant locale.conf Name=zh_Hant locales.conf: zh_Hant= Troy On 01/03/2014 11:10 AM, DM Smith wrote: On Jan 3

Re: [sword-devel] Change to Google Code Download Service

2013-11-12 Thread DM Smith
Summary: Downloads on Google Code to go away by Jan 2014 for all projects. New projects and projects that didn't have downloads were affected a while ago. BTW, the blog post was from May 20. On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:35 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: For those of you whose

Re: [sword-devel] merge raw avraw repos?

2013-10-27 Thread DM Smith
Just do it. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: It's been over 4 years since the release of Sword 1.6.0, when av11n was introduced. I believe that every front end that is still maintained now supports (to

[sword-devel] Forum software (was Re: mvnForum on HTTPS)

2013-10-21 Thread DM Smith
I know we've talked about it in the past, but I think we need different forum software. Last time I looked, there was no migration path from what we have to anything. I'd suggest that we shut down the current forum. Leave it as read-only on a different URL. And start fresh. Just my 2 cents.

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module updated to current version possible?

2013-09-15 Thread DM Smith
Yes. It should be in the beta repo soon. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Sep 15, 2013, at 5:44 PM, kahu jmei...@worldimpact.org wrote: any chance this upgrade will be taking. place soon within Sword repos? I love seeing the strong work Tyndale has put into the ESV 2011 text.

Re: [sword-devel] Downloads exceeding 45 seconds are timed out?

2013-08-29 Thread DM Smith
I'm not a libcurl expert, nor a SWORD Install Mgr expert. Wearing my hat as a JSword expert: We do the download to an alternate location and when the last file is successfully downloaded, we rename that location to the final one. That alternate location is merely the folder in the right place

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0RC2

2013-08-16 Thread DM Smith
Lucene indexing and search is pretty much the same. AFAICT, it works for Bibles and commentaries. It would be fairly easy to extend it for other types of modules. Essentially, in the Lucene index it creates one Document per key (aka reference) and stores the key in that document for retrieval.

Re: [sword-devel] MinimumVersion property in module.conf files

2013-08-06 Thread DM Smith
As Chris noted, this is a clue to a frontend that the module might not work as expected. What a frontend does with that can vary. The MinimumVersion, at least in part, is a handshake between osis2mod and the SWORD engine as to whether a module built by osis2mod has features that a particular

Re: [sword-devel] MinimumVersion property in module.conf files

2013-08-06 Thread DM Smith
1.7.0 not 1.6.0. On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:00 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Chris, Suppose the module being developed has some preverse content, that gets converted by *osis2mod* as follows: div type=x-milestone subType=x-preverse sID=pv1/ div type=x-milestone

Re: [sword-devel] MinimumVersion property in module.conf files

2013-08-06 Thread DM Smith
The pre-verse div should be ignored as a div. It probably should have been a milestone element. It should not confuse the SWORD engine. osis2mod 1.6.1 had the pre-verse div. It is not new w/ 1.7.0. It was supposed to work with SWORD 1.6.1, but it did not. From what I can tell 1.7.0 does work

Re: [sword-devel] German Elberfelder 1871 Bible module isn't authentic

2013-07-30 Thread DM Smith
I'm nearly done w/ the cache rebuilding script. This could be a good time to test it? In Him, DM On Jul 30, 2013, at 1:36 PM, ref...@gmx.net ref...@gmx.net wrote: Makes no sense to me. Removal is best option Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Missing ZIP files

2013-07-30 Thread DM Smith
is current. The code for the packager is in the crosswire-java svn repo. You should be able to find the servlet with a grep. Old sucky code I'm not proud of but works.Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 07/20/2013 03:05 PM, DM Smith wrote:On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Chris Little chris...@cro

Re: [sword-devel] CzeB21 Bible not listed on modules download page

2013-07-25 Thread DM Smith
Thank you so much! On Jul 24, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 07/24/2013 04:51 PM, DM Smith wrote: With the clearing of the zips cache, it has uncovered a problem with the module downloading page: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles The module

[sword-devel] CzeB21 Bible not listed on modules download page

2013-07-24 Thread DM Smith
With the clearing of the zips cache, it has uncovered a problem with the module downloading page: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles The module CzeB21 should be listed, but it is not. This is an old module that has been present for a long time. It should be listed

Re: [sword-devel] Windows Utilities

2013-07-23 Thread DM Smith
More a comment on the thread than this reply. We have bug trackers to record bugs, to record feature requests, to record development plans, Reported bugs are not created equal. They are not equally important. They need to be triaged. Some thoughts: A reported bug may not be a bug but a

Re: [sword-devel] Windows Utilities

2013-07-23 Thread DM Smith
Regarding MODTOOLS-31, this should be three separate bug reports. Bug reports that are too broad are seldom seen as anything more than an observation. No one person would ever be the owner of this one report. I'm inclined to suggest that we close it as invalid or won't fix and state why.

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