Hi,
Just my opinion about the problem:
The fat filesystem has many limitations and I vote for dropping special
support for it in VDR because if someone wants to use a windows system,
he/she can use ntfs which works fine in current distributions (ntfs-3g).
Just my 2 Cents.
Halim
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hello Bill,
Here is my answer for those not subscribed to speechd mailinglist.
-
hi Jacob and Luke,
@Jacob do you need the audio data for further processing?
Or do you need only creating wave files from the synthesized text?
Maybe a good start is to add a dummy audio output dri
hello Bill,
Here is my answer for those not subscribed to speechd mailinglist.
-
hi Jacob and Luke,
@Jacob do you need the audio data for further processing?
Or do you need only creating wave files from the synthesized text?
Maybe a good start is to add a dummy audio output dri
Hi Bill,
On Mi, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:05:28 -0500, Bill Cox wrote:
> I guess first I need to understand why you want it in system-wide
> mode. Having it ru as user has benefits. In particular, you can bind
> a command like "sh -c 'killall speech-dispatcher; orca --replace'" to
> a key like Shift+Ctr
Hi Will,
I think both versions of at-spi should be included in gnome-2.30,
because at-spi2 need a lot of testing and not all users want to build
it from source.
BTW.: Do we have a big improovement of a11y in gnome 2.30 compared to
gnome 2.28?
If not, we should make at-spi2 as default for gnome
Hi Bill,
I think you have a framebuffer running on your system.
This results in a screen other than 80x25.
Try this cmd after login to a textconsole:
stty cols 80 rows 25
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Hi List and Klaus,
It would be really nice if vdr could support diseqc setup directly in
vdr.
I don't know if this can be done by a plugin but the current solution is
difficult for endusers.
Setting a diseqc.conf needs some knowledge in diseqc and it's commands.
A simple interface for creating a
00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon
--config-fi
le=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --print-address
> And you can check if GTK_PATH environment variable is set.
Is not set.
Is the gtk_path variable needed?
BR.
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> Thanks,
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Hi Li,
On Mo, Jan 25, 2010 at 07:00:09 +, Li Yuan wrote:
> Seems there are still bugs for the accessibility bus. You can just
> remove the patch which enables accessibility bus. The "Accessibility bus
> not found" warning should not impact users if they don't start an
> application as another u
Hi,
Then open your config.log, search for ibmtts and post the
next lines related to it.
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Hi,
Have you checked the presence of
/usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
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Hi Li,
current status s:
The pyatspi call
import pyatspi;
print(map(lambda x: x.name,filter(lambda x: x, pyatspi.Registry.getDesktop(0
Hangs when i start the at-spi-dbus-bus before gnome-sesssion (don't know
if this is correct).
When I start it during the login process later, I am getting
a
hi Luke and list,
The eci.h needs to be in /usr/include.
The libs should be symlinked to /usr/lib/libetidev.so
and
/usr/lib/libibmeci.so
And you need also the old libstdc++ in /usr/lib
After these steps are complete, speechd can detect the ibmtts.
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Hi,
On Di, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:01:52 +0800, Li Yuan wrote:
> Seems you need to build the latest at-spi (CORBA version) to make the
> two versions of at-spi co-exist.
Do you mean i need both versions of at-spi installed currently for
running only the dbus version only?
My goal is to run the dbus ver
Hi Storm,
On Mo, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:43:59 +, Storm Dragon wrote:
>Hi,
>You can fix this by checking the crossfade option in preferences under
>the playback tab. Set the seconds for 3 or more.
It would be more helpfull to fix the problem itself instead of doing a
workarround.
have
Hi,
On Mo, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:39:48 +, Li Yuan wrote:
> Hi Halim,
>
> On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 18:02 +0100, Halim Sahin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I found the following in my .xsession-errors file:
> > ** (evolution-alarm-notify:12377): WARNING **: AT-SPI: Accessibility bus
&g
Hi,
I found the following in my .xsession-errors file:
** (evolution-alarm-notify:12377): WARNING **: AT-SPI: Accessibility bus
not found - Using session bus.
Currently I am playing with the at-spi2 stuff but I wasn't able to get
anything useful out of orca.
BR.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:47:03PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> So why do you specify it on the command line?
good point: I have tested it with pulseaudio as well to check if this is
alsa related!.
It makes no difference if alsa nor pulse is in use.
> I meant, was there a version when it stopp
Hi,
On Fr, Jan 15, 2010 at 02:29:41 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
> 2010/1/15 Halim Sahin :
> compare to vdr-xine, vdr-softdevice
done.
tested with softdevice.
Using softdevice works as expected and produces no dropouts.
But this isn't the best way. I need vdpau support and sd does
Hi Paul,
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 07:57:37AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear Halim,
>
>
> Am Freitag, den 15.01.2010, 02:32 +0100 schrieb Halim Sahin:
> > On Mo, Dez 14, 2009 at 01:30:44 +0100, Halim Sahin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I can confirm this behav
Hi,
any ideas how to solve the dropouts when switching the audio tracks in
vdr using xineliboutput?
BR.
Halim
On Mo, Dez 14, 2009 at 01:30:44 +0100, Halim Sahin wrote:
> Hi,
> I can confirm this behaviour.
> Switching audio produces dropouts and some other problems.
> I am using x
hi,
python-dbus is
python-dbus_0.83.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
I have also tried 0.82 from git.
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Hi,
Python 2.6 is standard in lucid so it should be work with this.
Do I really need to downgrade python for at-spi2 to work?
Or it's enough to do something with dbus python bindings?
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Hi folks,
I thought i:d give it a try.
the following problem ocoured after starting orca:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/pyatspi/busutils/bus.py", line 74, in
_event_dispatch
func (*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/pyatspi/ap
Hi,
I want to test the new dbus based a11y stuff.
did someone build debian packages for at-spi2-core and at-spi2atk?
BR.
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Hi,
It would be nice to know why stunserver.org doesn't work in gajim.
Maybe it's useful to change the text in the settings wich suggests using
it as well.
Thanks
for you help .
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Hi,
This problem is well known and there is no solution without hw mods's
available.
The question is:
Is there a way to disable the output while recording such channels?
This will be great for ff card without full-ts-mod.
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l allways to 0 and doesn't save the previous
level.
gajim->gajim the same.
It's not only related to empathy.
The problems were two things:
1. mic
2. stunserver.org doesn't work (tested again.).
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I don't think this is due to an empathy bug because we tried first
communicating with two gajim's.
The connection comes up but both sides are can not hear anything.
I've done a new test by downgrading to
jingle branch.
hg update jingle
This works well and is able to communicate with an othe
Hi,
It seems that something is wrong with the audio recording in current
gajim from hg.
We have done the following:
I used gajim the other used empathy.
Gajim can receive and play something from empathy but empathy
couldn't play anything.
It seems that gajim doesn't send audio correctly.
To test
Hi,
On Do, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:14:30 +, Thibaut GIRKA wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Some time ago I.ve reported success with gajim audio calls.
> > It worked really well for me.
> > Now it doesn't work since the jingle branch was merged and the
> stunserver
> > options were added.
> >
> > Now I am allways
Hi,
Some time ago I.ve reported success with gajim audio calls.
It worked really well for me.
Now it doesn't work since the jingle branch was merged and the stunserver
options were added.
Now I am allways getting
failed transport.
My pc is connected to a nat network and I have set stunserver.org
hi bill,
Not sure, what about policykit?
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Hi,
On Di, Jan 05, 2010 at 05:44:35 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> PA does not use "hwx,x".
Which devices are in use when pa detects the audiocards?
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Hi,
Is there a way to set dmix as default device for (all) cards?
My previous tests are working only with the first detected card.
Can I tell pa to use it instead of hwx,x?
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Hi,
This means your apps are broken :-( not pulseaudio.
place the attached default.pa in ~/.pulse/default.pa
This works for me to bypass pulse and run alsa apps.
BR.
Halim
#!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF
#
# This file is part of PulseAudio.
#
# PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/o
Hi,
On So, Dez 27, 2009 at 01:34:46 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sat, 26.12.09 08:31, Halim Sahin (halim.sa...@freenet.de) wrote:
>
> > > > > Lennart
> > > > >
> > > > I believe in his particular use-case he's concerned about the
&
Hi,
Running the lucid live cd stopps at gdm prompt and want username and
password.
Is this a known problem or what user and pass can be used for login?
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Hi,
On Do, Dez 24, 2009 at 06:27:25 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 25.12.09 00:47, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > > Running PA doesn't mean ALSA is out of the game. PA builds on ALSA and
> > > as such everything you could do with ALSA before stays available with
> > > PA to
Hi,
I have bootet lucid live cd from today in kvm.
Gdm comes up and want username and pass.
Which user and pass can i use to start gnome?
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he problem instead patching
pulse/or libao.
If not I would patch libao and add some config options for pulse plugin
(if xiph people are interested in).
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The latency wasn't the problem.
The playback can be stopped and start quickly
It's the prebuffering. Pulse start playback after it got enough samples.
E. G.
e is not enough.
v is enough.
Typing one e produces nothing. Typing two produces e e .
Maybe you have another idea to solve the problem
Hi Col,
I havent looked in the code but it wiould be enough to add a shortcut
for opening the contextmenu for moving the streams.
like shift+f10
I am able to tab to the label of the stream so it should be possible to
add the shortcut if the streamlabel is selected.
Thanks
Halim
Hi Col,
1. I gave you some examples what doesn't work as expected.
How should I run my text-to-speech server before login to have
audiooutput for reading the login screen?
2. Running daemons worked well under alsa (see my previous post).
I am using every day this setup.
Speechd runs with uid speec
Hi Lennart.
On Mi, Dez 23, 2009 at 02:55:54 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 23.12.09 14:40, Halim Sahin (halim.sa...@freenet.de) wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > In my previous mail I have written about the great feature of pulse to
> > move some streams be
Hi,
We have developed a libao driver for speech-dispatcher text-to-speech
server.
The problem was that if we get short sample like an
e, i, u pulseaudio didn't play them.
Adjusting the mentioned value in pa_buffer_attr fixed this.
Thanks to Bill who has found the problem.
His approach did the foll
Hello,
In my previous mail I have written about the great feature of pulse to
move some streams between audio cards.
This is really great but sometimes difficult to use for blind poeple.
When I open pavucontrol and tab to a stream i can't open the contextmenu
with the keyboard.
I must use the mou
Hi,
Can I setup the default vallues of the pa_buffer_attr in pulse's
settings?
I need to change the value of pa_buffer_attr.tlength.
If this isn't supported can you please add this in the upcomming
pulseaudio version?
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Hello list,
Just my thoughts on this problem:
1. pulseaudio is now the prefered audiooutput system in most distros.
It brings great new features which are useful at all.
I like the feature mooving streams from one audiodevice to another. This
makes using of headset comfortable and is realy useful.
Hi,
On Sa, Dez 12, 2009 at 04:32:22 -0500, Daniel Chen wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
> > I'm trying to narrow down where the problem is that causes the 1/2
> > second delay when Orca tries to read text using pulseaudio. Is it in
> > pulseaudio's main code trunk, or in
Hi,
That sounds interesting.
Can you tell us more about your setup?
Which soundcard or better can you post your
~/.speech-dispatcher/conf/speechd.conf and
/etc/libao.conf?
BR.
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eech comes back.
Have a lot of fun.
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diff -ruN speechd/configure.in myspeechd/configure.in
--- speechd/configure.in2009-12-16 11:47:43.0 +0100
+++ myspeechd/configure.in 2009-12-16 11:49:25.0 +0100
@@
Hi,
My logitech usb headset uses the control named speaker for controling
the volume.
What do I have to add to my asound.conf to rename speaker to PCM?
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Hi,
I can confirm this behaviour.
Switching audio produces dropouts and some other problems.
I am using xineliboutput from cvs and stable xinelib!
vdr-sxfe --video=xv --audio=pulseaudio -R xvdr+udp://127.0.0.1
Any ideas?
with regards
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Hello List,
Which SD version is the latest one and (maintained)?
I am asking for chosing the right one for some patches to
speech-dispatcher.
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You can also get a good performance when you use
pulseaudio, speech-dispatcher with espeak-generic outputmodule.
simply use paplay in
~/.speech-dispatcher/conf/modules/espeak-generic.conf
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Hi VDR User,
On Mi, Dez 09, 2009 at 11:03:33 -0800, VDR User wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Tony Houghton wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:34:42 +0100
> > Halim Sahin wrote:
> >
> >> How can I determine that from a vdr-1.7.10 recording?
> >> Unfo
???
On Sa, Dez 05, 2009 at 09:34:42 +0100, Halim Sahin wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I determine that from a vdr-1.7.10 recording?
> Unfortunately vdrsync doesn't work any more :-(.
> Regards
> Halim
>
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Hi,
How can I determine that from a vdr-1.7.10 recording?
Unfortunately vdrsync doesn't work any more :-(.
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Hello list,
The mentioned card doesnÄ't work any more.
I am running an opensuse 2.6.31 kernel.
It sems that no frontend can be loaded.
I am getting also many cam inserted or cam ejected messages.
dmesg contains this message:
[ 1067.280898] budget-av: A frontend driver was not found for device
[11
Hi,
I have two Problems with current gajim from hg:
1. Doing an audio call works fine but it consumes much cpu power.
I have an amd x2 with 2x 1.9 GHz.
The load is 2 during an audiocall and top show about 80/95%.
2. a11y: I wasn't able to open the menu from a chatwindow to change the
gpg encryptio
rror: ConnectionZeroconf instance has no attribute 'send_activity'
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Hi,
On Mo, Nov 16, 2009 at 06:50:43 +, Mark Doffman wrote:
> Pyatspi2:
> * Add check using PID to check that the application
> using pyatspi does not call itself. This is because the
> D-Bus calls are not currently re-entrant.
does this mean that we can't curr
Hello,
On Mo, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:25:29 +0100, Gilles Casse wrote:
> Hynek Hanke wrote:
> > Now we tend to think that any solution where the audio
> > is not output to kernel space directly from the synthesis
> > driver (like we do with ALSA) is not a possible way given
> > the current state of thin
e nothing.
Try to adjust these variables and restart speech-dispatcher.
e.g.
GenericPunctNone "--punct=.,{}[]"
In german it works correctly when I select punctuation all in orca.
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Hi,
small typo:
I have tested it without the a11y profile with running pulseaudio :-).
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hello all.
I know this is not an ideal solution but it seems usable on my machine
and maybe some of you is interested in this stuff as well.
1.
Under karmic edit the file ~/.speech-dispatcher/conf/speechd.conf
search for the line containing espeak-generic and uncomment it by
removing the # at the
you are welcome to cross check these results,
> that would be very useful. There might be something which
> changed or something that we are missing.
>
> With regards,
> Hynek Hanke
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Hi,
On Do, Nov 12, 2009 at 02:41:53 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
> command: chroot /my/chroot/area /usr/bin/vdr-sxfe
>
> Create the chroot with the help of the tool ldd, ldd vdr-sxfe will
> tell you what shared objects vdr-sxfe requires to start. This is an
> interim solution until xineliboutpu
Hi,
On Do, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33:42 +0100, Marco Skambraks wrote:
> hi,
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Halim Sahin wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Does xineliboutput support this?
> > The Problem: the Kids shouldn't be able to view or modify anything in
> > the system.
&
Hello,
Does xineliboutput support this?
The Problem: the Kids shouldn't be able to view or modify anything in
the system.
E. G.
/media should contain all content and
it shouldn't be possible to change to /.
Any ideas how to do this?
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Hi,
On Do, Okt 29, 2009 at 03:59:27 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
> On 29/10/2009, Halim Sahin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On my machine sxfe wasn't able to reconnect after a vdr restart any way.
> > I am interested to know if this is a setup problem or
nch of xineliboutput.
Autoreconnect of remote fe's would be really useful :-).
BR.
Halim
> On 10/29/09, Halim Sahin wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Xineliboutput from cvs
> > Sxfe as remote frontend doesn't reconnect when vdr restarts.
> > It says that it can't get dat
Hello,
Xineliboutput from cvs
Sxfe as remote frontend doesn't reconnect when vdr restarts.
It says that it can't get data from the server but it doesn't try to
reconnect.
Tcp transport was used.
Any idea what's wrong?
BR.
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On Mi, Okt 28, 2009 at 06:43:03 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> En/na Halim Sahin ha escrit:
> > Hello List,
> > Playback of arte hd works on an ion based board and vdpau (hdmi) but
> > the playback stops every x secs.
> >
> > Do I need special options or set
Hello List,
Playback of arte hd works on an ion based board and vdpau (hdmi) but
the playback stops every x secs.
Do I need special options or settings in my xorg.conf?
Please can someone post a working xorg.conf for vdpau output?
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Hi,
The plugin didn't compile on my machine.
I have modified the Makefile this way:
INCLUDES += -I$(VDRDIR) -I../../$(DVBDIR)/include
to
INCLUDES += -I$(VDRDIR) -I../../$(DVBDIR)/include -I../../../include
HtH.
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Hi,
I have tested gajim jingle branch on my gentoo machine (and it works).
My sugestions are the following:
1. please add a audio/video keyboard shortcut in the chat window (a11y)
2. this isn't accessibility related but it would be nice to have
audio/video options in the budy list contextmenu.
wh
Hi,
What's the status of hd playback in softdevice?
Is someone working on vdpau support for it?
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# CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS is not set
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Hi,
some days ago you wrote that you are using gnomespeech.
This is the reason why pulseaudio blocks orca.
Pulseaudio opens the hw0,0 alsa device so no other alsa application can
work.
This happens only to useless soundcards without hardwaremixing!!!
You can try speechd and select it's pulse o
Servus Attila,
Using gnome-speech is a temporary hack because it will be removed in
gnome 3.0.
You can try to modify the orca start command and add a -n to avoid the
copy of ~/.orca folder.
Finaly my Question is:
Have you tried this setup under debian as well?
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Hello,
I know of some dvb-s pcie cards but what about dvb-c.
Do we have a working pcie dvb-c card??
with kind regards
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Hi Yann,
On Fr, Aug 28, 2009 at 02:03:22 +0200, Yann Leboulanger wrote:
> Halim Sahin wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> > If gajim tries to save or read passwords from gnome-keyring, the
> > screenreader orca can't read anything.
> > The unlock dialogue is inaccessible as we
Hi,
On Fr, Aug 28, 2009 at 09:29:35 +, Li Yuan wrote:
> > an you tell me a working example application wich I can test?
>
> Pidgin on OpenSolaris is an example.
Thanks but I can't test this because I can't run opensolaris.
Opensolaris didn't recognize my audio card so was not able to check.
Hi Folks,
If gajim tries to save or read passwords from gnome-keyring, the
screenreader orca can't read anything.
The unlock dialogue is inaccessible as well.
The Problem is afaik the result of wrong use of gnome-keyring.
Please refer to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447435#c9
It will b
, the keyring dialogues are popping up and
orca can't read anything.
Thank You.
BR.
Halim Sahin
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Hi,
On Fr, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:49:48 +0800, Li Yuan wrote:
> >From http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540146#c3 , this is
> probably a networkmanager bug. Any application calls gnome-keyring in
> the wrong way can hang at-spi-registryd.
>
> Li
Hello Li,
Thats interesting, I don't know of an
Hi List,
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540146
Please help.
I don't know what application causes this error so I don't know where to
file a useful bugreport.
Regards
Halim
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Hi Luke,
I have downloaded
karmic-desktop-amd64.iso
There is now speech-dispatcher installed.
Which image contains speech-dispatcher or do we need to wait for the
next daily live cd?
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On Di, Aug 25, 2009 at 02:12:51 +0800, Ginn Chen wrote:
> I don't know what's the version of Firefox in OpenSuse 11.1.
> The problem should be gone with Firefox 3.0.11 or later.
The Problem still exists on opensuse 11.2 with firefox 3.5.
Including the gail path in ld.so.conf didn't help under open
Hi,
On Mo, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:22:19 +0800, Li Yuan wrote:
> Hi Halim,
>
> If Orca works fine before you start Firefox, the GNOME environment is
> set up correctly. This is probably a Firefox problem. Maybe Firefox guys
> know more about this. And it would be very helpful if you can provide
> stack
Hi,
Is there a working german g2 table for liblouis available?
The changelog says that it was removed a few months ago.
BR.
halim
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Hello,
What needs to be done for building firefox with at support?
The problem, is that opensuse distro ships a broken version and i was
not able
to figure out what the Problem is.
Orca says allways inaccessible after starting firefox.
Do I need to change something in gtkmodules?
The gnome version
Hi,
No I have tested speakup and used the highlight tracking mode.
Sorry this is nice but not working correctly when two highlights are
used.
speakup can't read the menu in mc correctly.
in alsamixer it reads
not only the highlighted mixer.
Guys have a lookup to sbl.
Regards
Halim
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Hi,
On Do, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:45:17 +, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Speakup can do programs like alsamixer by pressing the * key on the
> numeric keypad and using hilight tracking.
Sorry me fault.
You are right.
Maybe didn't read the manual carefuly.
BR
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Hi,
On Do, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:02:56 +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
> Dear users,
>
> As i know, SBl (suseblinux screen reader) is included in some Opensuse
> repository, and Adriane Knoppix is also having this screen reader included
> and it's configuration files has been modified, so this scr
Hi @all,
I tried to install at-spi2 by following the guide which Mario has posted
in debian accessibility list.
Installation was done under ubuntu karmic because of newer gnome
packages.
# ps x saays after login:
32594 ?S 0:01 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-registryd
# echo $GTK_MODULE
Hi,
On Mo, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:22:23 +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 08:18:30AM EST, mike wrote:
> > Hi, are there any plans to make the alternative CD accessible with software
> > speech so we can install it with out sighted assistance?
> >I would think this could be don
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