Re: [Alpine-l] a bit of rock garden history

2011-01-14 Thread Arisaemaq
Hi Jim,
 
You are the biggest compendium of interesting information I have met in a  
long time...smile.
 
I accessed my favorite spice company, Atlantic Spice Company in Truro,MA,  
where I spend 
summer and fall months, and Spanish saffron is 80 per half ounce.   Their 
spice list is extensive and the quality great.
 
_http://www.atlanticspice.com/store/SearchStoreResults.asp_ 
(http://www.atlanticspice.com/store/SearchStoreResults.asp) 
 
I certainly would enjoy a tasting of the various sorts, with some  
appropriatebeverage on the side...smile.
 
Cheerio
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2011 10:03:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jimmcken...@jimmckenney.com writes:

Jan  asked:  does anyone know if you can harvest the stigmas of 
C.  cartwrightianus and use them in place of saffron?

First, a bit of  nit-picking terminology. It isn't the stigma which is
harvested, it's the  entire style. The stigma is the surface on which pollen
gets stuck. If  saffron were harvested from the stigma only, it would be
vastly more  expensive than it already is. 

Also, old books mention that in the past  the styles of Crocus nudiflorus
were used as a source of saffron. 

I  grow several species of crocus of the saffron group (C. thomasii,  C.
cartwrightianus, C. oreocreticus, C. pallasii and C. sativus - all but  C.
sativus from Jane McGary) and although I have not attempted to cook with  
the
styles, they all have a similar strong scent.

A  culinary/economic  note: years ago I bought an ounce of saffron. It  came
in a rather elegant decorative  metal box. I figured it would be  a life 
time
supply. At the time it cost about $50 US dollars. In the  current Penzeys
Spices catalog, 1/4 ounce of the better grade goes for  about $82. At that
rate my little box would have cost nearly $320.   

Jim McKenney 










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On Behalf Of Jan Jeddeloh
Sent:  Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:32 PM
To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock  Garden Society;postings copyright by
authors.
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] a  bit of rock garden history

Jane McGary wrote

Crocus sativus is  believed to be a triploid sport of C.
 cartwrightianus, which is a  fertile species and can indeed be grown
 from seed. In fact, it  self-sowed readily in my bulb frames. It
 usually has white flowers  with strongly marked veining on the outer
 tepals, and its style is the  same bright scarlet as C. sativus but
 not so long. I think C.  cartwrightianus is widely adaptable in gardens.


Just out of  curiousity does anyone know if you can harvest the stigmas of 
C.  cartwrightianus and use them in place of saffron?  Just  wondering.

Jan




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Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns

2011-01-22 Thread Arisaemaq
Hello Brian,
 
We have had Jack Russells for over 28 years and never a case of poisoning  
of any sort, at least not that we were aware of.  But, then, our pets, like  
us, are not vegans...smile.
 
I think this a wonderful idea, Brian.  I have quite a bit of eranthis  
growing in perennial borders, the woodland gardens etc. and they spread almost  
to the point of being considere invasive.
 
I certainly would not plant eranthis where there might someday when we are  
gone, be pasturing area, but I plan to seed around as much as I can where 
there  are daffodils in big patches all over the hill.  I make my husband mow 
 around these areas until nearly the end of June, so the eranthis foliage 
and  seeds would certainly have time to do their thing.
 
Thank you for the great idea.
 
Best,
Marcia Brown Meigs  Ithaca, NY  USA Z5  
Sub zero deg. F due for the next two nights but at least 6 in. out of snow  
out there.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2011 10:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
brian.wh...@btinternet.com writes:

I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring flower  in 
lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely. I have  only seen 
it 
in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in the  Lambourne Valley in 
the UK
_http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html_ 
(http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html)  Usually  it is grown 
as a light 
woodland plant and even here it is largely under  mature trees.
But the question is in view of its toxicity, in a  domestic situation, how 
is it with pets? I would like to try it as it is  so easy to grow from fresh 
seed but am concerned about dogs bruising the  leaves and cleaning their 
paws, and maybe later eating the seed if it is  not mown off before it sheds.
 
Anyone with pets tried it?
 
Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8






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Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis - lawns

2011-01-22 Thread Arisaemaq
Hello Anne,
 
Well, in all fairness, although they seem able to seed just about anywhere, 
 eranthis seems to grown best for me in at least fairly moist, soil, in the 
 woodland, amended with a lot of rotted leaves from the dump and mulched 
with  woodchips(applied later in the season).
 
Dear old mentor, Prof. Bill Hamilton, brought his back from England where  
he was stationed during WWll and when he passed away in the 80's, his place 
was  covered solidly with sheets of glorious gold to welcome Springtime.   
The new owners tried desperately to get rid of the eranthis, if you can  
imagine.  But, I will admit that the foliage tends to obliterate small  Spring 
ephemeral treasures.  Can you imagine trying to get all the little  bulblets 
out of vast swathes of pachysandra and such.
 
Sometimes Nature has sweet revenge...smile.
 
That is why I am a little alarmed at this point and beginning to try to  
remove large amounts of it.  I will put some way down in the woodlands and  
hope that they only grow downhile as many plants seem to prefer doing.
 
Bill always said that the best place to grown them was under shrubberies.  
and actually, those locations, although at the bottoms of slopes, were 
rather  dry.
 
I often tell people that when they choose to plant something that they  
love, they should look out of their windows and see what they might like to  
see.  Unfortunately I am not great at following my own advice.
 
Best,
Marcia Meigs in Ithaca, NY USA
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2011 1:34:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
zan...@aol.com writes:

Lucky you, Marcia!   I'd  love them to behave like that here but there are 
only a couple of places to  their liking.  I've had a lot of success moviing 
them right after bloom  and dividing them.  It's quite a nice spread now, 
just not where I can  see it easily.
Anne Spiegel
Zone 5a(?)
mid-Hudson valley, New York





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To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent:  Sat, Jan 22, 2011 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Eranthis hyemalis -  lawns


Hello Brian,
 
We have had Jack Russells for over 28 years and never a case of poisoning  
of any sort, at least not that we were aware of.  But, then, our pets,  like 
us, are not vegans...smile.
 
I think this a wonderful idea, Brian.  I have quite a bit of  eranthis 
growing in perennial borders, the woodland gardens etc. and they  spread almost 
to the point of being considere invasive.
 
I certainly would not plant eranthis where there might someday when we  are 
gone, be pasturing area, but I plan to seed around as much as I can where  
there are daffodils in big patches all over the hill.  I make my husband  
mow around these areas until nearly the end of June, so the eranthis foliage  
and seeds would certainly have time to do their thing.
 
Thank you for the great idea.
 
Best,
Marcia Brown Meigs  Ithaca, NY  USA Z5  
Sub zero deg. F due for the next two nights but at least 6 in. out of  snow 
out there.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2011 10:49:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_brian.whyer@btinternet.com_ (mailto:brian.wh...@btinternet.com)   writes:

I saw a recommendation recently to use Eranthis as a spring  flower in 
lawns, as it was largely over before any mowing was likely.  I have only seen 
it 
in grass in very large numbers in Welford Park, in  the Lambourne Valley in 
the UK
_http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html_ 
(http://www.worldisround.com/articles/10902/photo66.html)  Usually  it is grown 
as a light 
woodland plant and even here it is largely  under mature trees.
But the question is in view of its toxicity, in  a domestic situation, how 
is it with pets? I would like to try it as  it is so easy to grow from fresh 
seed but am concerned about dogs  bruising the leaves and cleaning their 
paws, and maybe later eating  the seed if it is not mown off before it sheds.
 
Anyone with pets tried it?
 
Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8






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Re: [Alpine-l] snowdrops 1

2011-01-29 Thread Arisaemaq
Hello Bob,
 
I didn't know they have Yankee humor out where you live...smile.  You  are 
quick.
 
As a long time galanthopile, I am usually torn between feeling the usual  
misery at not many others being known to me and great anticipation and hopes 
for  the end of Febrary on.
 
I would be far less miserable if I knew other galanthophiles in this  
country who would like to chat on a galanthophile list, say on yahoo, and who  
would be interested in trading or otherwise, some of the more unusual bulbs of 
 this charming flower.
 
Is there anyone who has bought from some of the wonderful growers in  
England.  I highly recommend Judy's website which has a wonderful page on  
increasing stock by scaling with exceptional photos.
 
_http://www.judyssnowdrops.co.uk/index.html_ 
(http://www.judyssnowdrops.co.uk/index.html) 
 
Is there anyone out there who can direct me through the perils of getting a 
 CITES permit for English galanthus, with appropriate warnings or  
experiences.  As I have thought for many years, it is such a shame that we  
don't 
have some enterprising business minded soul who could act as middleman for  
processing group orders.
 
As well, does anyone know Charles Cresson's email address?
 
Paige, the person with whom to consult is Diane Whitehead, a great  
plantswoman, who grows galanthus  with great success among many other  bulbs, 
and 
who has, I assume, environmental conditions similar to yours.
 
Galanthus does well enough for me although some, like Primrose Warburg and  
Anglesey Abbey seem not to want to divide.  Always praying that squirrels  
or chipmunks don't move these, as well as remove labels...sigh.
 
I would love to hear privately from any interested in the above  
possibilities.
 
We still have decent snow cover, and although I feel it depressing, I am  
glad that there is the insulation for the more tender plants or those which 
tend  to jump the gun in a warm spell.  And, thankfully, it seems the coast 
has  suffered the storms so familiar to us here in Ithaca, NY.
 
Best,
Marcia Brown Meigs
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2011 10:39:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
penste...@q.com writes:

Bob, you  don't say what kinds of snowdrop are blooming in your garden in
  Denver
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Re: [Alpine-l] Large files

2011-02-14 Thread Arisaemaq
Anne, Lucky you, keeping the deer out of your garden with icy snow, but  
then all those rocks and slopes help.
Here, in spite of a northerly slope frozen over, forcing us to clamber up  
and down a long, long drive, for the last three weeks or so, to the cars at  
the bottom, most of the garden areas are fairly flat.
This AM I saw the gang of six plump two year olds(I think), lying down  as 
well as pawing at the snow cover on the grassy slope above the house.   One 
was shoving its head against the netting fence, sigh, so it is time to drag  
out the pellet gun which, unfortunately does not have much of a range.  
I  enjoy watching the deer but enough is enough...smile.
Just wish i could see an adonis or snowdrop poking through.  Hopefully  it 
will not be long now.  The temperature is close to 57 but then blizzards  
are always possible into April.
Cheerio,
Marcia in Ithaca, NY, USA  Zone 5
 
 
In a message dated 2/14/2011 7:27:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
zan...@aol.com writes:

Marcia, the one thing that  strong icy snow cover does is keep the deer out 
of the garden here.   Because the garden is steep, when it's icy the deer 
seem to 
have the good sense to stay out.  It's an ill wind ...etc
Anne Spiegel  Mid-Hudson Valley   New York Zone  4b/5a





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Sent:  Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Large files


Hi Carolyn and All,
 
I guess I am non-tech as well although I dislike the rather  pejorative 
sound of that term.  We have no choice here except for very  expensive Verizon 
broadband.  All the roads radiating  from our  location can get cable, but 
as our short little road has only a few  residences, we seem to be neglected.
 
However, even crummy aol would never take 45 minutes to download anything  
so I have to wonder if the problem for some people is not their carrier.
 
I so wish that the photos could be embedded in the email itself.   Such 
photos are much quicker to show that doing an upload from a download and  
download/uploads go automatically into one's files,which means one is stuck  
with 
these accumulating unwanted except for the initial view.
 
I have to wonder why we cannot do embedded photos as we can on Yahoo  lists.
 
Still a strong icy snow cover so I doubt that we will have snowdrops and  
hamamelis in bloom by the 20th as we did in 2009...sigh.
 
Waiting, waiting...smile.
 
Marcia Meigs in Ithaca, NY USA  Zone 5/6
 
 
In a message dated 2/13/2011 4:51:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_carolyn.junipersky@gmail.com_ (mailto:carolyn.juniper...@gmail.com)   writes:

Sorry, I keep forgetting how non-tech this group is. No more photos  from 
the field. I sent the rocks to show the general area to Cliff who  mentioned 
the dryness and said it to the group. Sometimes sending from a  phone, the 
cell tower you are on says it has not sent, but it has.   Then when you hit 
the next tower it sends again causing duplicate  messages.  1 MB is pretty 
standard for most systems, but I now realize  not this group.  
Carolyn Strong
Almost to zone 8 now
On Feb 13, 2011 1:11 PM, Fran Doyle _daxter@nexicom.net_ 
(mailto:dax...@nexicom.net)  wrote:
 With regret I must ask you to remove my name from  the mailing list. Ms 
Strong's photos (one sent twice!) took 45 minutes to be  received. Do you 
remember dial-up? Some of us country-dwellers are still  stuck with it. It 
could be suggested to posters that they resize their  photos before sending 
them. I can't be the only person on this list with  dial-up. And, no offense 
meant (although it will probably be taken) but,  rocks? Living on the 
Canadian Shield I am not unfamiliar with them so after  waiting 45 minutes I 
was 
somewhat disappointed.
 Thank you,
  Fran  Doyle



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Re: [Alpine-l] Understory for bamboo

2011-02-20 Thread Arisaemaq
Hi Diane,
 
I am surprised that you feel one doesn't need to put up much of a barrier. 
 
I bought a bamboo from a local widely known plantsman.  I  cannot  remember 
the name except that it was viariegated and delicate.  I planted  it in a 
bottomless pot about a foot tall about twenty or more years ago, and it  
quickly traveled...expletive.
 
We are still digging out sprouts here and there after trying to remove it  
about 17 years ago...smile.
 
I adore bamboo, but will not plant it here.
 
Beeg blizzard predicted in the northern plains and it is supposed to  hit 
us here as well...sigh.  A little fed up, but even more upset over  the deer 
who are camping out all over the slopes here and broke through the  netting 
fence.  Of course, the first thing they attacked was an exquisite  
fastigiate chamacyparis. The bottom half is now five inches thick and the top a 
 foot 
thick...sigh.
 
I am thinking a permanent fence from my old age money.  We shoot at  the 
deer with  what seems to be a very ineffective pellet gun. They keep  coming 
back and while I feel sorry for them as I realize they are hungry. I am  
conflicted...smile.
 
I have to think that our UK friends do not have a deer problem?   Probably 
dear little hedgehogs and badgers?
 
Best from currently frigid central NY State.  I dream of galanthus in  full 
blow carpeting the landscape in the UK as we never see it here.
 
Best,
Marcia Brown Meigs  Ithaca, NY, USA
 
Cheerio,
Marcia
 
 
In a message dated 2/20/2011 2:19:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
volta...@islandnet.com writes:

I don't  recall anything in bamboo forests I've been in.  Even dwarf   
bamboo seemed to obliterate the competition.

The good thing about  bamboo is that its roots are shallow so barriers  
don't have to be  massive.  Also, plants that are over-run can  
survive.   When I had a backhoe in to remove my bamboo, an arisaema  
that had  not emerged aboveground in twelve years came up and flowered.


Diane  Whitehead
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
maritime zone 8, cool  Mediterranean climate
mild rainy winters, mild dry  summers



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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3083) 2-shows INTERNATIONAL CON...

2011-04-17 Thread Arisaemaq
What a magnificent specimen!  I assume this is one rhizome  with that many 
stems?  It would be interesting to hear how one achieves  this sort of 
plant...age, timing of light or whatever, fertilizing, etc.   Or was this taken 
out of the ground for show?
 
I have never seen, in the wild around here or in my garden, a  tillium like 
this.
 
Thank  you for showing it to us.
 
Regards,
Marcia Brown Meigs in very windy and chilly Ithaca, NY, USA No  
T.grandiflorum yet
 
 
In a message dated 4/17/2011 4:57:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bookcli...@aol.com writes:

Alpine-L  Gallery Image Upload (3083) 2-shows INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 
FARRER   FORREST

From:  Cliff Booker
eMail:  bookcli...@aol.com
Name: 2-shows INTERNATIONAL  CONFERENCE FARRER  FORREST
Note: Worthy  winner of the Farrer Medal and the Forrest Medal at the 
Eighth International  Rock Garden Conference Show held at Nottingham 
UniversIty, 
U.K. on Saturday  16th April 2011 under the auspices of the Alpine Garden 
Society and the  Scottish Rock Garden Club.  
The exhibitor was Chris Lilley from North  Anston with a superb plant of 
Trillium grandiflorum and this success proved  doubly sweet for Chris as this 
was his first Farrer and his first Forrest  Medal.

URL:  http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3083

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Re: [Alpine-l] Archives and bog garden

2011-07-26 Thread Arisaemaq
Bill,
I don't find it either, and when I tried to type in Rock Garden  Quarterly 
in the search  box, only Quarter would fit. When i went to the  bottom of 
the page that popped up, I got editor which didn't give me  anything.
Such is why I never bother accessing this website.
It is beautiful in spite of the grey and other hard to see fonts on  black, 
but the  password process, etc. are just too annoying and  time consuming.
Too bad,  as the photography is truly  spectacular. 
Just call me challenged and older...smile.
Would it be possible that when someone wishes to send others to a  notable 
website page, one could simply post a link or URL?
Best,
Marcia Brown Meigs
 
 
In a message dated 7/26/2011 9:43:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
remm...@stny.rr.com writes:

Jane  McGary wrote:

 Kathleen, if you will look at the NARGS website,  www.nargs.org, 
 you'll find a cumulative index to the Rock Garden  Quarterly. In the 
 SUbject index, look up bog gardens. At least two  very detailed 
 descriptions of how to create a bog garden were  published there. One 
 is by Frederick Case and would be appropriate  for your climate, since 
 he gardened in the upper Midwest in a  cold-winter area. You can get a 
 copy of the issue in which the  article appeared from the Society (I'm 
 not sure who is doing this  these days but the website will tell you).

Jane,

I find no link  to the Rock Garden Quarterly. am I blind?

Bill Plummer
Painted Post  NY 

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3452) Unknown, ID needed

2012-01-27 Thread Arisaemaq
Hello John,
 
Somehow I get the feeling that this gets moisture from the verges  of lawn, 
etc. and thus does well at producing this exquisite flower(as in  lupines).
 
Makes me appreciate FL in a way but I am not about to leave the  lovely 
winters and seasons of the NE United States...smile.
 
How did you happen to find this?
 
Best,
Marcia Meigs in Ithaca, New York  USA
 

 
In a message dated 1/27/2012 10:53:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
fernh...@voicenet.com writes:

http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3452

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[Alpine-l] Summer heat and Trilliums

2012-07-02 Thread Arisaemaq
Hi Elin,
 
Friend Glen in MI emailed that he has not had a drop of rain for two  
months, whereas counties to the N and S have had good rainfalls.
 
Temps here have broken all in history.  A terrible Spring and now a  very 
bad start to summer.  Being only a trough gardener insofar  a  rock plants 
are concerned, I once again am grateful to be most obsessed by the  
woodlanders.
 
It is nice, though, to see several forms of delosperma, both in troughs and 
 on a slope  happily enjoying the sun and heat.  While winter seems to  do 
a little killing off here and there, it is so delightful to be able to pick  
up a loose piece and stick it in a trough where it will produce a bloom.  I 
 should try to find more...they're easy
 
The sunny gardens and porch plants are suffering the worst as they simply  
cannot draw up enough water in the scalding heat of up to around one  
hundred at times.
 
As well, the dreadful humidity gives me serious breathing difficulty so it  
is difficult to do all I want to do.  This has held me back from taking off 
 for Truro for the rest of the Summer and most of the Fall.
 
Even though the ground seems damp much of the time from watering, the trees 
 are showing how bad the situation is.  Numerous aged maples, etc. droop, 
as  well as the younger understory trees. Sad to see and praying for a good  
storm.
 
Friend John Aipassa mentioned to me some weeks ago that his trillium  
plants' seed pods were bursting but the seed was not mature and he feared lack  
of germination.
 
I have found, after several years of racing around just before leaving for  
the Cape and cracking open seed pods to find seeds ranging from white to 
tan,  that most germinated very nicely beneath the mothers.  So, as John Guyer 
 seems to have demonstrated over the years, there is quite a bit of 
latitude in  what will germinate...thankfully.
 
I think all this heat is telling me that I should not plant any more plants 
 in gardens, but I spent two hours yesterday mattocking a little new area 
as a  friend sent me a variegated forsythia.  I will use it to help hide 
trash  cans, sink a bunch of daff bulbs dug up when planting the last plant 
sale 
 treasures, etc.  
 
I just have to slow down!
 
Cheerio,
Marcia Brown Meigs  Ithaca, NY  USA
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/1/2012 3:48:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
johnsone...@aol.com writes:

Knoxville TN had the highest temperature ever  measured here yesterday of 
105 F, and I measured 107 F. on my back  porch.  We are in serious drought, 
and I'm being hard pressed to keep  trees and shrubs alive, let alone 
anything else.
 
Having whined, I'd like to commiserate with those with much  more dire 
problems.  I'd like to hear from Bob Nold and the folks at the  Denver 
Botanical 
Gardens as to their situation.  Are our Colorado  friends okay?  And I'm 
sure some of our members were affected by the  awful storm in the DC area 
recently.   I, too, had been wondering if  we still had a viable group--missed 
hearing from everyone.
 
Elin Johnson
Sweetwater, TN 
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2012 7:01:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
uuall...@gmail.com writes:

100  degrees here, Air Quality Index reported as 139.  


-- 

 
 
 
 












Larry Wallace  
Cincinnati
 







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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3539) 2-shows Miniature garden close-up

2012-10-20 Thread arisaemaq
Dear Cliff,


It is so cruel to send a photo of this magnificent creation and not tell us a 
lot about it.  I have to wonder if you have written anything about making such 
gardens where we can access your blog, inclusion in a bulletin or whatever.


Such info as: how large  this planting is, if not old, did you drill holes and 
put them in the holes and then take a photo before they or their blooms started 
to expire(smile), and how large the tufa and holes are, as well as how you 
would expect to keep this going...smile.  Surely that is not too much to 
askbig smile.


You are truly a plantsman and photographer of the highest order.


Thank you for what you share.


Best always,
Marcia Meigs Ithaca, NY, USA  currently on Cape Cod in Truro where all the 
names come from English towns way back in the 17th and 18th centuries.



-Original Message-
From: Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com
To: Alpine-l Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Sat, Oct 20, 2012 6:39 am
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3539) 2-shows Miniature 
garden close-up


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3539) 2-shows Miniature garden close-up

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: 2-shows Miniature garden close-up
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URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3539
File: 2-shows/2-shows_Miniature_garden_close-up_3539.jpg

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