Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3708) Gentiana verna - colour variation

[Barbara van Achterberg]

Ho hum.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:34 PM,  wrote:

> Lavender form - Dolomites
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> Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3708) Gentiana verna - colour variation
> From: Cliff Booker <>
> URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=
> 3708
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia

[Graham Nicholls]

Lovely photo Cliff. As an afterthought I clicked on the campanula list at the 
left hand side and was amazed to see how many different species/ cultivars that 
I once grew and exhibited but have lost in the few years since the greenhouse 
collapsed and having a mini stroke 18 months ago. If there is anyone out there 
with spares of any I would be grateful to start building a collection again.
cheers
Graham Nicholls email grapl...@aol.com 


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Sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 13:52
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Thanks, Cliff. As usual, beautiful and fascinating plants.
What a barren site: how do you suppose the campanula got there? 


Jim McKenney





  
 
 
  
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 To: Alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:48 AM
 Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia
  
 

Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia
From: Cliff Booker <bookcli...@aol.com>
URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=3704

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia

[Jim McKenney]

Thanks, Cliff. As usual, beautiful and fascinating plants.What a barren site: 
how do you suppose the campanula got there? 
Jim McKenney


  From: "bookcli...@aol.com" 
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 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:48 AM
 Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia
   
Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3704) Campanula cenisia
        From: Cliff Booker 
        URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=3704
        
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4

[Gerhard Stickroth]

Hi John,

 

on your reply on Alpine-I your address appears as Alpine-I Digest, Vol. 67,
Issue 4.  Can you enlighten me what that means, please. I couldn't find that
Vol. 67, Issue 4, anywhere. Thanks.

 

Gerhard

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Re: [Alpine-l] IRG 83 November

[Ted Wilcox]

Thanks for a most interesting article and fantastic pictures, even the one that 
drew an expletive!  Whilst I have little knowledge of bees or wasps I try to 
encourage them both in my garden and allotment.  Although the wasps that built 
a nest in one of my allotment compost heaps did cause some problems with my 
later apples,  although they never stung anyone.  I assume that in southern 
England we have a similar diversity of bees to those across the water.
Thanks again for a full and interesting article.
Regards Ted Wilcox




 
  From: youngs 
 To: Alpine-L  
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2016, 22:20
 Subject: [Alpine-l] IRG 83 November
   
   
 New International Rock Gardener e-magazine (IRG)  - free to download of course 
-
  this month  featuring Native Bees of Southwestern Oregon by Travis Owen 
  http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Nov241480016901IRG83-November2016.pdf 
  M. Young 
  
   
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3695) Linaria alpina

[Cliff Booker]

Many thanks, Jim … much appreciated.

Kind regards, 

Cliff








On 15 Aug 2016, at 16:43, James Waddick  wrote:

> Gorgeous picture. Thanks  Jim w. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, bookcli...@aol.com wrote:
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> Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3695) Linaria alpina
>   From: Cliff Booker 
>   URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=3695
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3695) Linaria alpina

[James Waddick]

Gorgeous picture. ThanksJim w. 



On Aug 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, bookcli...@aol.com wrote:

Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3695) Linaria alpina
From: Cliff Booker 
URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=3695

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3689) Ranunculus glacialis

[Barbara Coatney]

very nice.   glad to see you're out there again


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glacialis


Flowering abundantly in a snowmelt stream.
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Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3689) Ranunculus glacialis
From: Cliff Booker 
URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPix=3689

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Re: [Alpine-l] Harry Dewey

[James Waddick]

Dear John and all,

Thanks for your kindly tribute to Harry Dewey.  Although we never met, 
we exchanged hundreds of emails both privately and via Alpine-l. At the time it 
was unique, exciting and involving. I corresponded with some wonderful people 
in the US, the UK and elsewhere. 

Harry managed to keep the discourse active, polite and on topic. These 
are characters sorely lacking all too often in today’s alternatives. 

I exchanged those similar padded envelopes with more than my share of 
garden goodies many of which still thrive and remind me of long gone wonderful 
gardeners. I doubt today’s gardeners, and not just "Alpine gardeners", can 
appreciate the fun and import of the posts and activities that Harry originated 
and supported.  He was a unique garden personality. Without him, Alpine-l lost 
its way for the most part. Various replacements are just not the same. 

Yes he is missed, but still appreciated.Yours is a well 
deserved and modest tribute to a very special man.  Thanks, 
Jim Waddick



On Mar 6, 2016, at 3:38 PM, j...@oltarakwa.co.uk wrote:

Others have paid tribute to Harry Dewey here, and Alpine-L seems the 
best place to announce my own tribute blog post, 
http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/harry-dewey-1921-2016.html

I have no idea how many people are still connected through Alpine-L, but 
I'm sure many will remember Harry's interventions and encouragements 
with fondness and gratitude. He was a pioneer and a lovely man.

John Grimshaw
Settrington, North Yorkshire
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Re: [Alpine-l] Harry Dewey

[john]

Others have paid tribute to Harry Dewey here, and Alpine-L seems the 
best place to announce my own tribute blog post, 
http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/harry-dewey-1921-2016.html

I have no idea how many people are still connected through Alpine-L, but 
I'm sure many will remember Harry's interventions and encouragements 
with fondness and gratitude. He was a pioneer and a lovely man.

John Grimshaw
Settrington, North Yorkshire
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Re: [Alpine-l] Harry Dewey

[Bobby Ward]

Harry T. Dewey

Long-time NARGS member Harry Tillinghast Dewey died February 17, 2016, age 95. 
He was a professor of Library Science at various colleges and universities. 
Harry served NARGS in many capacities, in particular the Potomac Valley 
Chapter, helping organize national meetings. He was quick to see the potential 
of the Internet and in 1995 he founded Alpine-L, a worldwide electronic rock 
garden discussion group established as a Listserv, which he managed daily from 
his home in Beltsville, Maryland.  Harry described the Internet and its 
potential use to gardeners in the Rock Garden Quarterly in 2001 (vol. 59, pp 
115-124).  He received the NARGS Award of Merit in 2002.  Harry was a keen and 
interesting gardener, story teller and jokester, with a raucous, infectious 
laugh.  Born on February 29, he died just shy of his 24th bissextile birthday.  
Harry is survived by his spouse, E. Thomas Comstock.  Condolences to Tom at 
3904 Parsons Rd., Chevy Chase, MD 20185-6733.






> On Feb 27, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Barbara van Achterberg 
>  wrote:
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> You were one of the friends I made through Alpine-L. Rick. I remember well 
> visiting your garden, jam-packed with great alpines, on the way from York to 
> London.. 
> Barbara van Achterberg
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 5:59 AM, R Lambert  > wrote:
> Harry and Alpine-L were part of my education into Alpines Plants
> on-line. Alpine-L was exceptional and brilliant because of the
> 'Moderation' that took place. Gentle reminders about on-line etiquette
> and guidance of how to avoid offending through the cross over of
> languages and cultures. By contributing I was helped to write in a
> clearer way on alpine botany. And of course the many good friendships
> and sharing of seed that developed.
> Thank you Harry.
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Re: [Alpine-l] Harry Dewey

[Barbara van Achterberg]

You were one of the friends I made through Alpine-L. Rick. I remember well
visiting your garden, jam-packed with great alpines, on the way from York
to London..
Barbara van Achterberg

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 5:59 AM, R Lambert 
wrote:

> Harry and Alpine-L were part of my education into Alpines Plants
> on-line. Alpine-L was exceptional and brilliant because of the
> 'Moderation' that took place. Gentle reminders about on-line etiquette
> and guidance of how to avoid offending through the cross over of
> languages and cultures. By contributing I was helped to write in a
> clearer way on alpine botany. And of course the many good friendships
> and sharing of seed that developed.
> Thank you Harry.
>
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Re: [Alpine-l] Harry Dewey

[R Lambert]

Harry and Alpine-L were part of my education into Alpines Plants 
on-line. Alpine-L was exceptional and brilliant because of the 
'Moderation' that took place. Gentle reminders about on-line etiquette 
and guidance of how to avoid offending through the cross over of 
languages and cultures. By contributing I was helped to write in a 
clearer way on alpine botany. And of course the many good friendships 
and sharing of seed that developed.
Thank you Harry.

RIck Lambert

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Re: [Alpine-l] WG: Aquilegia nivalis

[penstemon]

I just recently received a few seed of Aquilegia nivalis. Does anyone have any 
experience / advice in germinating that seed. Thank you.
 

Seeds of almost all species of Aquilegia respond to stratification for 1-3 
months at 4C, followed by fairly quick germination at ca. 20C. 

Alternatively, seeds can be sown outdoors in pots, now, for germination in 
spring, though with some species this can take two winters. 

 

Bob Nold

Denver, Colorado, USA
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Re: [Alpine-l] Silene atigraca

[penstemon]

I am looking for any information on Silene atigraca. It was offered in the AGS 
Seed List 63 2014-2015 as #4702 and is also available commercially from 
Plantworld Seeds. The owner Ray Brown says he got it from one of the seed 
exchanges a few years ago but has no further details. Any information on the 
possible original collection,  publication of the name as a valid species or 
other taxonomic or botanical details would be welcome. Thank you!





I guess you looked at Kew, Tropicos, IPNI, Plantarium, etc., and found nothing. 

A misread label, maybe?





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Re: [Alpine-l] Silene atigraca

[Jim McKenney]

Yes, it's out there on several sites.But IPNI would have listed it if it was 
validly published - unless it's very newly published - and was picked up by the 
trade before IPNI caught it. Jim McKenney
 

  From: Perennial Favorites <perennialfavori...@ghvalley.net>
 To: Jim McKenney <jamesamcken...@verizon.net>; "Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock 
Garden Society, postings copyright by authors." <alpine-l@science.uu.nl> 
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 6:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Silene atigraca
   
I googled it and came up with this link:  
http://www.plant-world-seeds.com/store/view_seed_item/1221New to cultivation, 
they say.Diana CapenOn 2016-01-25 15:12, Jim McKenney wrote:
FYI: IPNI lists no caryophyllaceous genus with a species atigraca - nor did I 
see anything close to that spelling.Jim McKenney





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Re: [Alpine-l] Silene atigraca

[Perennial Favorites]

 

I googled it and came up with this link:
http://www.plant-world-seeds.com/store/view_seed_item/1221 

New to
cultivation, they say. 

Diana Capen 

On 2016-01-25 15:12, Jim McKenney
wrote: 

> FYI: IPNI lists no caryophyllaceous genus with a species
atigraca - nor did I see anything close to that spelling. 
> Jim
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Re: [Alpine-l] Potentilla verna nana

[Swick_Kathleen]

The Potentilla verna nana that grows in Anchorage is a very low dense mat, not 
a big spreader in my rock garden, small attractive leaves and many yellow 
flowers.  Sorry, not sure of its relationship to grandiflora and never heard it 
mentioned among knowledgable plant friends.  Let the lumpers and splitters 
fight it out whilst it thrives and blooms unaware of such issues.


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Re: [Alpine-l] IRG

[Louise Parsons]

Excellent news that IRG will continue! Although too distant for direct 
participation, I am an enthusiastic member and love the SRGC activities. 
  Wednesday is "bulb day" with Ian Young's ~wonderful "Bulb Log Diary" 
So much fine work!

All the best to Alpine-l folks everywhere for a fine and flower-filled 
2016,

Louise Parsons
Corvallis, ORegon US

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Re: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Ray Deutsch]

J. Ian Young:
Do we assume all photos are from Aberdeen (Scotland?)  Please be more effusive 
with locations!
Thank you,Ray Deutsch, NARGS, AGS

  From: youngs 
 To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:30 AM
 Subject: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine
   
  IRG 70  -  October 2015
 
 Featuring, from America,  Nhu Ngyuen of the Pacific Bulb Society  and Clay 
Koplin in Alaska and also seaside plants from Scotland from  Ian Young
 
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Oct291446150520IRG70-October2015.pdf
 
 As usual, a full index to all issues of the IRG is also freely  available : 
http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRG-Index.pdf
 
  Regards,
 
  M. Young 
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[zanspi]

Excellent, enjoyable  issue of IRG.
Anne Spiegel



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Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2015 2:30 pm
Subject: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine


IRG 70  -  October 2015

Featuring, from America,  Nhu Ngyuen of the Pacific Bulb Society  and Clay 
Koplin inAlaska and also seaside plants from Scotland from  Ian Young

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Oct291446150520IRG70-October2015.pdf

As usual, a full index to all issues of the IRG is also freely 
available : http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRG-Index.pdf

 Regards,

 M. Young 
  

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Re: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Barbara Coatney]

effusive??

From: Ray Deutsch
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:47 PM
To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by authors.
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine

J. Ian Young:

Do we assume all photos are from Aberdeen (Scotland?)  Please be more effusive 
with locations!

Thank you,
Ray Deutsch, NARGS, AGS




From: youngs <youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com>
To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:30 AM
Subject: [Alpine-l] Latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine


IRG 70  -  October 2015

Featuring, from America,  Nhu Ngyuen of the Pacific Bulb Society  and Clay 
Koplin in Alaska and also seaside plants from Scotland from  Ian Young

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Oct291446150520IRG70-October2015.pdf

As usual, a full index to all issues of the IRG is also freely  available : 
http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRG-Index.pdf

Regards,

M. Young


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Re: [Alpine-l] Gentiana lutea

[lilactreefarm]

Sharon,
   How lovely to have Gentiana lutea self-seeding in the garden. I have not had 
more than the one plant (though it has formed three 'rosettes')' and it took 
several years from seed to flowering. So I shall make an effort to move the 
plant, though I suppose its roots may go a very long way down, but, yes, I 
would very much appreciate some seed 'just in case.' If I can get it to 
germinate, there will be an interesting race to see if it will flower before...
   This last consideration applies to one of the trees we have grown from seed, 
Cladrastis sinensis, the Chinese version of the North American yellowwood. It 
is now about 12'; the flowers do not appear on young trees, so my chances of 
seeing it in flower, always assuming it survives our winters, are shrinking. 
But at Hillier this July I was lucky enough to see a 40' (?) version in full 
flower.
   Good to hear from you, and thank you for responding to my questions.
Brian


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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:09 AM, S. & R. Illingworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Brian, I have never attempted to move Gentiana lutea of any size.  A few 
> years ago Marion Jarvie dug up a small seedling from our garden, but it 
> didn't make the move to hers.
> Our plants sometimes take a year or so off from blooming, but their bold 
> beautiful foliage makes them an asset even then. They are tough plants 
> and have survived many hard winters.  They grow in well-drained mostly 
> clay soil, some with gravel mixed in, and in sun for most of the day.
> 
> Ours self-seed freely, so I try to deadhead before that happens, but I 
> do have one with seed on it right now.  I could send you some if you 
> like, in case yours fails to make the move.  Easiest way would be to sow 
> the seeds now,  in situ.
> Sharon, near Thunder Bay, in north-western Ontario.
> 
>> On 08/09/2015 10:08 AM, Brian Bixley wrote:
>>   Several years ago I managed to grow Gentiana lutea from seed - it's 
>> probably easy - and it eventually flowered for a few years. Then it 
>> stopped flowering, perhaps because its situation became increasingly 
>> shady. Is it possible for me to move it? Advice would be much appreciated.
>> 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Gentiana lutea

[Brian Bixley]

  Many thanks for your comments. I, too, moved the plant when it was small. 
What I desperately need to know, however, is how deep the roots may go after 
many years, what kind of renewed conditions I should try to give the plant 
(where is your plant growing?) and whether all of this is pointless given the 
size and age of the plant. Can you offer me some help with these questions?

Brian

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> On Sep 8, 2015, at 13:05, Harold Peachey  wrote:
> 
> I grew G. lutea from seed about ten years ago, it has survived a half dozen 
> moves when still small and bloomed beautifully this year.  I will be 
> contributing seed to the NARGS seed Ex this year.
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Brian Bixley  
>> wrote:
>>Several years ago I managed to grow Gentiana lutea from seed - it's 
>> probably easy - and it eventually flowered for a few years. Then it stopped 
>> flowering, perhaps because its situation became increasingly shady. Is it 
>> possible for me to move it? Advice would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Brian Bixley
>> Southern Ontario 
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Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Hine, Brent Allyn]

Well said, Brian!  I will use this to explain better to visitors to the E.H. 
Lohbrunner Alpine Garden in Vancouver, BC.
While it’s essentially at sea level, the scale of the garden allows many large 
plants to be grown, including those which
look good in association with its large rocks!

Brent Hine
Curator, UBC Botanical Garden
Vancouver, BC

From: alpine-l-boun...@science.uu.nl [mailto:alpine-l-boun...@science.uu.nl] On 
Behalf Of Brian Whyer
Sent: August-01-15 2:09 AM
To: Ray Deutsch; Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings 
copyright by authors.
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine

I quote, from an AGS publication.

Definitions “Alpine or rock garden plant”: The term covers all plants, 
including shrubs, suitable for
cultivation in a rock garden of moderate size or in an unheated frame or alpine 
house. It excludes any plants
which will not survive an average British winter under such conditions but 
includes many plants which
do not necessarily grow in mountainous regions.

Many alpines grow at sea level, Dryas octopetala for instance in Scotland, 
and several orchids in alpine meadows and woodlands in europe.

Brian Whyer, UK



From: Ray Deutsch ray.deut...@yahoo.camailto:ray.deut...@yahoo.ca
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authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nlmailto:alpine-l@science.uu.nl
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Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine

Why orchids?  They are NOT alpines!  Let the orchid fanciers worship elsewhere.





From: Youngs Aberdeen 
youngs.aberd...@btinternet.commailto:youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com
To: Alpine-L . alpine-l@science.uu.nlmailto:alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:47 AM
Subject: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine

The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener (IRG)  # 67 is online now.
It has the second part of the Eijkelenboom report on the orchids of Crete,
Zdenek Zvolanek  demonstrates the  landscaping of a trough in Moravia,
and Steve Garvie and Ian Young  show how Dactylorhiza can colonise  troughs and 
gardens in Scotland
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jul301438283975IRG-67.pdf
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=internationalis the main page for 
all issues

The  latest full  Index to IRG is here  
http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRGIndex67.pdf

Another  feature on the SRGC website is Ian Young's weekly Bulb Log Diary
 - all issues from 2003 to the present may be accessed from this page :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb
All are welcome to enjoy these and other features of the website 
www.srgc.nethttp://www.srgc.net/
Best wishes, M. Young

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Re: [Alpine-l] Terrestrial Orchids in The International Rock Gardener

[Cole Burrell]

Amen. Most of us suffer from a lack of moving scree, and many live with hot 
summer nights. However, we still consider ourselves rock gardeners

Cole Burrell, free Union VA

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:17 AM, Youngs Aberdeen youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well, it's good to see that there are at least some folks reading this page!
 I will point out that the title of the e-magazine is the International Rock 
 Gardener
 and there is no doubt that alpines -and terrestrial orchids - are happy  
 companions in many a rock garden.
 Perhaps it is the insistence on a very narrow definition of alpine that is 
 the cause of the lack of activity here?
 I suppose there are people who only grow one type of plant - though I must 
 say I have met very few in my time and
 had imagined that those interested in Alpines would have at least a passing 
 interest in the plants featured in the IRG.
 The IRG concentrates in the main on plants able to be grown in the open 
 garden - which I suppose excludes a
 large number of alpines in a large number of countries - we hope to improve 
 gardens and the pleasure gained from
 them, rather than limit our horizons unnaturally.
  
 I thank Brian Whyer for his comment on the AGS definition of its interests - 
 which are, of course, very similar to those
 of the Scottish Rock Garden Club, which hosts the IRG. Happily the SRGC and 
 AGS are open in their definitons,
 which probably leads to their success in enthusing and informing about  what 
 is a fascinating range of plants, which may
 widely be referred to, I  would say, as smaller types of  wildflowers for a 
 range of climates and situations -  some of which will be
 truly alpine.
  
 Margaret Young
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Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Paige Woodward]

I don’t see the problem with mentioning Dactylorhiza or ground orchids that 
dwell in Crete. We are fortunate that many plants which have survived ice ages, 
including a lot of ground orchids, retain a tolerance for cold that they don’t 
necessarily require at the moment. 

Few of us live in the alpine zone, so alpine gardening tends to be about 
growing plants that tolerate a range of conditions, both alpine and temperate. 
The target keeps moving. 

Good evening, all. 

Paige Woodward 

 On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Jim McKenney jamesamcken...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Actually, I don't think the average orchid fancier would know what to do with 
 either the orchids of Crete or with Dactylorhiza.  
 And why are they not alpines? 
 I'll bet I'm not the only one who has a more interdenominational attitude 
 about this.
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Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Ray Deutsch]

Why orchids?  They are NOT alpines!  Let the orchid fanciers worship elsewhere.


  From: Youngs Aberdeen youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com
 To: Alpine-L . alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:47 AM
 Subject: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener 
e-magazine
   
 The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener (IRG)  # 67 is online now. 
 It has the second part of the Eijkelenboom report on the orchids of Crete, 
Zdenek Zvolanek  demonstrates the  landscaping of a trough in Moravia, and 
Steve Garvie and Ian Young  show how Dactylorhiza can colonise  troughs and 
gardens in Scotland 
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jul301438283975IRG-67.pdfhttp://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international
    is the main page for all issues The  latest full  Index to IRG is here  
http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRGIndex67.pdf    Another  feature on the SRGC 
website is Ian Young's weekly Bulb Log Diary - all issues from 2003 to the 
present may be accessed from this page : 
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulbAll are welcome to enjoy these 
and other features of the website www.srgc.net Best wishes, M. Young 
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Re: [Alpine-l] The latest issue of the International Rock Gardener e-magazine

[Jim McKenney]

Actually, I don't think the average orchid fancier would know what to do with 
either the orchids of Crete or with Dactylorhiza.  And why are they not 
alpines? I'll bet I'm not the only one who has a more interdenominational 
attitude about this.Jim McKenney

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Re: [Alpine-l] IRG 66 now online

[Bill Barlen]

Thank you so much.  Beyond lovely.  Too old and too far south for my own
garden any more, but I really enjoyed this issue.

Bill Barlen

On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Youngs Aberdeen youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com
wrote:

  *News of the latest issue of *
 *International Rock Gardener ISSN 2053-7557*

 *Issue 66 June 2015 online here:  *
 *http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jun251435252604IRG_66.pdf*
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jun251435252604IRG_66.pdf


 *Plants  to be seen in spring  in the area of Mt Trevenque in the Spanish
 Sierra Nevada by *
 *Dieter Zschummel  with photos by Dieter and Kirsten Andersen. *

 *Cyclamen elegans discussed by Grahame Ware, photos by Michael
 Kammerlander *

 * New galanthus cultivars from Anne Wright  - the Dryad Gold group.*



 Full index to IRG  http://files.srgc.net/journals/IRGIndex66.pdf

 Main IRG page   http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international

 You are welcome to submit articles for possible  inclusion  to:

 Margaret Young   edi...@internationalrockgardener.net
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Re: [Alpine-l] Carl Gehenio

[Deb]

Hello,
I was researching this plant of my Father in laws and came upon your question. 
If this is still a valid email, please respond with any questions .

Thank you,
Deb Gehenio

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Alpine-l] Carl Gehenio

[Barbara van Achterberg]

 I got it.
Barbara van Achterberg

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Deb dgehe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 I was researching this plant of my Father in laws and came upon your
 question. If this is still a valid email, please respond with any questions
 .

 Thank you,
 Deb Gehenio

 Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Alpine-l] Places to visit Kelseyville, San Francisco, Oakland

[Perennial Favorites]

 

I don't know how many alpines you'll find at the UC Botanical
Gardens at Berkeley, but it's an amazing place to go! They have the best
collection of CA natives, and lots of bulbs from other parts of the
world, too. Just thinking about it makes me wish I could spend a week,
or a lifetime there. 

Diana Capen, Rye, CO 

On 2015-04-27 06:20, Mark
Griffiths wrote: 

 hi, long time since I posted so forgive me if I
break etiquette. 
 I'll be off to this area May/early June. I'm
interested in good places to see alpines or bulbs. 
 We will start in
San Francisco / Oakland and then going up to Kelseyville in Lake County.
Hopefully we'll get some lifts from relatives but I guess major hikes
and climbs will not be possible. One thing I think I've found - the
cemetry where my wife's parents are buried in Oackland seems to be a
location for the Oakland Star Tulip. 
 regards, Mark Griffiths, Oxford,
UK.
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Re: [Alpine-l] Places to visit Kelseyville, San Francisco, Oakland

[Barbara Coatney]

look herehttp://www.westernwildflower.com/


From: Mark Griffiths
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:20 AM
To: Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: [Alpine-l] Places to visit Kelseyville, San Francisco, Oakland

hi, long time since I posted so forgive me if I break etiquette.

I'll be off to this area May/early June. I'm interested in good places to see 
alpines or bulbs.

We will start in San Francisco / Oakland and then going up to Kelseyville in 
Lake County. Hopefully we'll get some lifts from relatives but I guess major 
hikes and climbs will not be possible. One thing I think I've found - the 
cemetry where my wife's parents are buried in Oackland seems to be a location 
for the Oakland Star Tulip.


regards, Mark Griffiths, Oxford, UK.






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Re: [Alpine-l] Places to visit Kelseyville, San Francisco, Oakland

[Barbara Coatney]

and here 
http://www.westernwildflower.com/Hikes/Lake%20County/Clear%20Lake%20Area%202009.04.27/090427%20Clear%20Laks%20Area.htm


From: Mark Griffiths
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:20 AM
To: Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: [Alpine-l] Places to visit Kelseyville, San Francisco, Oakland

hi, long time since I posted so forgive me if I break etiquette.

I'll be off to this area May/early June. I'm interested in good places to see 
alpines or bulbs.

We will start in San Francisco / Oakland and then going up to Kelseyville in 
Lake County. Hopefully we'll get some lifts from relatives but I guess major 
hikes and climbs will not be possible. One thing I think I've found - the 
cemetry where my wife's parents are buried in Oackland seems to be a location 
for the Oakland Star Tulip.


regards, Mark Griffiths, Oxford, UK.






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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3657) Ajuga pyramidalis

[Jim McKenney]

Nice one, Cliff. At first glance it reminded me of the inflorescence of Salvia 
viridis.
Jim McKenney

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3657) Ajuga pyramidalis

[Cliff Booker]

Hi Jim,

I see what you mean … this one was very tiny at only three inches tall.  Just a 
juvenile plant.

Kind regards,

Cliff





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 Nice one, Cliff. At first glance it reminded me of the inflorescence of 
 Salvia viridis.
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Mexican phloxes

[Kyle Baker]

I'd love  yellow phlox..but betting not hardy for me. Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, 
MCNMaine Zone 5
  From: penstemon penste...@q.com
 To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright by 
authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Mexican phloxes
   


   Would that I did. At one time we had a handful of P. mesoleuca forms - 'Paul 
Maslin', 'Mary Maslin', 'Tangerine', 'Arroyo' and a white whose name eludes me 
for the moment. Now there are only the photos. Do you know where any of these 
can be obtained? Have you tried Panayoti Kelaidis?  ‘Chameleon’, ‘Denver 
Sunset’, etc. Denver Botanic Gardens sold these for one dollar each at the 
Mother’s Day plant sale back in the late 1980s.Here is a link to the easiest 
way to get Mexican 
phloxes:http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-build-a-time-machine1/ 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Mexican phloxes

[Brian Bixley]

  Would that I did. At one time we had a handful of P. mesoleuca forms -
'Paul Maslin', 'Mary Maslin', 'Tangerine', 'Arroyo' and a white whose name
eludes me for the moment. Now there are only the photos. Do you know where
*any* of these can be obtained? Have you tried Panayoti Kelaidis?

Brian

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Clarence H. Falstad III 
c...@waltersgardens.com wrote:

 Brian,



 I ran into an old post where you mentioned Phlox mesoleuca ‘Paul Maslin’.



 Do you of anyone who has this yellow form?





 Thanks,





 Clarence H. Falstad, III

 Walters Gardens, Inc.

 1992 – 96th Avenue, PO Box 137

 Zeeland, MI 49464-0137

 616-772-5975 ext 1750



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Re: [Alpine-l] Mexican phloxes

[penstemon]

  Would that I did. At one time we had a handful of P. mesoleuca forms - 'Paul 
Maslin', 'Mary Maslin', 'Tangerine', 'Arroyo' and a white whose name eludes me 
for the moment. Now there are only the photos. Do you know where any of these 
can be obtained? Have you tried Panayoti Kelaidis?


‘Chameleon’, ‘Denver Sunset’, etc. Denver Botanic Gardens sold these for one 
dollar each at the Mother’s Day plant sale back in the late 1980s.
Here is a link to the easiest way to get Mexican phloxes:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-build-a-time-machine1/


Bob
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Re: [Alpine-l] [***SPAM***] Re: Mexican phloxes

[Barbara Coatney]

 I had one for years until someone zealously weeded it out. 
I will forward this to Phyllis Gustafson.  She may know someone in Medford that 
still has it if she doesn't.



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Society Alpine-L; postings copyright by authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl
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Subject: [Alpine-l] [***SPAM***] Re:  Mexican phloxes

I'd love  yellow phlox..but betting not hardy for me.



I suspect that was one reason for their disappearance from horticulture; the 
other being difficulty of propagation. The late Homer Hill, of Arvada, 
Colorado, propagated them by root cuttings.
I had ‘Mary Maslin’ in the garden here for many years; it died last winter. 
Still have ‘Arroyito’, Homer’s introduction, which is probably a cross 
between ‘Arroyo’ and Phlox subulata. P. subulata isn’t winter hardy in my 
garden, but ‘Arroyito’ is. It has no above-ground growth in the winter.

Bob

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Re: [Alpine-l] Mexican phloxes

[Clarence H. Falstad III]

Brian,

I ran into an old post where you mentioned Phlox mesoleuca 'Paul Maslin'.

Do you of anyone who has this yellow form?


Thanks,


Clarence H. Falstad, III
Walters Gardens, Inc.
1992 - 96th Avenue, PO Box 137
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Re: [Alpine-l] Internatoinol Rock Gardener e-magazine- Crocus Special

[Adolf Ceska]

Hi,

The last issue of the IRG  e-magazine was nice, but I doubt that Janis’
three new species were validly described. The author did not select the
types, he only mentioned the herbarium where the types are deposited. That’s
not enough, I think.

All the best,

Adolf Ceska

 

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On Behalf Of Youngs Aberdeen
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:45 AM
To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: [Alpine-l] Internatoinol Rock Gardener e-magazine- Crocus Special

 

IRG 61 is a Crocus Special:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jan291422555042IRG61.pdf
 Various Crocus are discussed and 3 new species are described 

 

 Dr. Jānis Rukšāns, described by Chris Brickell as a  “journalist, author,
nationalist
politician, plantsman, plant breeder, plant explorer,and eminent nurseryman”
describes various new Crocus species -
[i]Crocus gunae, Crocus reinhardii  Crocus iranicus [/i]
 
Jānis is also a speaker at the SRGC Discussion Weekend in October
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12742.0 

 

Main page for all issues of International Rock Gardener e-magazine
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international

Up to date Index to IRG always available here
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine- Crocus Special

[Youngs Aberdeen]

 Not sure how I managed Internatoinol - hope you all realised I meant
 to type International Rock Gardener.

Hope you enjoy the magazine.

 M. Y.

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Re: [Alpine-l] Botanical Places to visit near Billings, Montana and Red Lodge, Montana

[daveandlin337]

Beth,
There are several trails available from the Red Lodge side when you head 
up the road to the Beartooth Pass.  Unfortunately, most are along 
streams and do not have a lot of subalpine or alpine flowers. Examples 
of these are Lake Fork Creek (19 miles to September Morn Lake), and the 
West Fork of Rock Creek.  Once you get to the switch-backs, you are at 
The Hell Roaring Creek entrance into Rock Creek.  There are several 
lakes and meadows of flower all of which require a hike in.  Once you 
are on top of the pass, there should be a tremendous amount of flowers. 
There are several lakes along the highway which should have flowers near 
them (Island, Beartooth, Long, and Little Bear Lakes).  I would also 
suggest going towards Cook City and taking the road/trail near the 
Cook's Ranger Station which goes north up Fisher Creek.  You can go 
closer to Cooke City from the the east to a road up Miller Creek.  A 
better approach is to get topographical maps (US geoplogocal Survey 
(Denver, CO 80225)  They have afolder describing the map areas covered. 
The Cooke City, MT-WY, Beartooth Butte, Alpine, and Emerald Lake maps 
should cover the entire road area.


My real interest was flyfishing for golden and cutthroat trout, but 
later I became fascinated with Castilleja spp (paintbrush).


Good Luck,

Dave Nelson

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:59 PM, umberger wrote:

 My husband and I are going to Billings, Montana the first week of 
August to visit with friends.  We will be driving up to Red Lodge and 
along Beartooth Highway.  Are there places I should be sure to see?

Beth Umberger
Zone 6 elevation 2,300 ft.


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Re: [Alpine-l] Botanical Places to visit near Billings, Montana and Red Lodge, Montana

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Thanks. On 01/12/15, daveandlin...@charter.net wrote:Beth,There are several trails available from the Red Lodge side when you head up the road to the Beartooth Pass. Unfortunately, most are along streams and do not have a lot of subalpine or alpine flowers. Examples of these are Lake Fork Creek (19 miles to September Morn Lake), and the West Fork of Rock Creek. Once you get to the switch-backs, you are at The Hell Roaring Creek entrance into Rock Creek. There are several lakes and meadows of flower all of which require a hike in. Once you are on top of the pass, there should be a tremendous amount of flowers. There are several lakes along the highway which should have flowers near them (Island, Beartooth, Long, and Little Bear Lakes). I would also suggest going towards Cook City and taking the road/trail near the Cook's Ranger Station which goes north up Fisher Creek. You can go closer to Cooke City from the the east to a road up Miller Creek. A better approach is to get topographical maps (US geoplogocal Survey (Denver, CO 80225) They have afolder describing the map areas covered. The Cooke City, MT-WY, Beartooth Butte, Alpine, and Emerald Lake maps should cover the entire road area.My real interest was flyfishing for golden and cutthroat trout, but later I became fascinated with Castilleja spp (paintbrush). Good Luck,Dave NelsonOn Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:59 PM, umberger wrote:My husband and I are going to Billings, Montana the first week of August to visit with friends. We will be driving up to Red Lodge and along Beartooth Highway. Are there places I should be sure to see? Beth Umberger Zone 6 elevation 2,300 ft.  --___Alpine-l mailing listAlpine-l@science.uu.nlhttp://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l___Alpine-l mailing listAlpine-l@science.uu.nlhttp://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
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Re: [Alpine-l] New Plant I.D. Website

[Henry]

Jane,

Very nice and thorough site.

Will you be sharing the list of the short plants that work in your 
experimental Zone 4 garden?

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4



On Fri, 1/9/15, k-jhend...@juno.com k-jhend...@juno.com wrote:

 Subject: [Alpine-l] New Plant I.D. Website
 To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl
 Date: Friday, January 9, 2015, 7:49 PM
 
 This may not be of
 interest to most of Alpine-L as the species depicted at my
 new identification website are growing wild between 9,400
 and 10,200 feet in Colorado, which is the Upper Montane to
 Lower Subalpine Zones.  The link is:  http://www.picturetrail.com/snowtrekker7 
I
 named the site Wildflowers of Peak 7, Breckenridge,
 Colorado.  So far, there are 260 species arranged
 by color and (I'm sorry) identified first by common
 name.  I created the site for the locals who are not
 especially plant savvy but who have a budding
 interest in knowing the names and details of the plants they
 see while walking their dog, biking or hiking on
 neighborhood trails (which are within the wooded White River
 National Forest).  That's why I chose to arrange
 them by color and use the local
 names. However, within each color
 album, the plants are arranged alphabetically by botanical
 family and then alphabetically within the respective family
 by genus and then by species. 
  I'm limited by PictureTrail
 to a certain size image and a certain number of individual
 photos so I have created composite photos of each species
 showing the important structural
 parts. Many of the short species
 are in my experimental gardens.  Even though they
 aren't true alpines from above treeline, their small
 stature and reliable, showy blooms work well for me in rocky
 crevices I have created in my rock
 walls. I hope you will find the
 site interesting and possibly helpful.  If you see any
 errors, please let me know right away.  If you're
 interested in growing some of the species depicted, please
 contact me as I collect seeds of many species every year and
 may have some of the species you might be interested in
 growing. Jane
 HendrixMountain View Experimental
 GardensPeak 7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado
 USAElevation: 10,000 feetUSDA Zone:
 4Websites:  http://www.picturetrail.com/snowtrekker7
 http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Cohan Fulford cactuscac...@gmail.com
 To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society,
 postings copyright by authors.
 alpine-l@science.uu.nl
 Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] ?
 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:01:27 -0700
 
 Nothing happened to Alpine-L as you can see,
 it is still here if someone posts  :) -- no one has
 been posting, that's all! If you want a site to be
 active, you need to originate posts-photos and topics for
 people to discuss... However, the photo posting system is
 awkward compared to many other venues, so that is likely a
 reason why many people have moved on..Cohan
 Fulford
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at
 12:15 PM, Kishori Hutchings cusheoncr...@shaw.ca
 wrote:
 Yes Bob,
 what did happen??I have visited the newer sites
 and still would prefer Alpine-L.Brian
 HutchingsSalt Spring Is. BC
 Canada From: penstemonSent:
 Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:12
 AMTo: Alpine-L,
 the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by
 authors.Subject: Re:
 [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine - issue
 60 Featured plants are Saxifraga
 dinnikii forma alba and some quite amazingly
 large Cyclamen  from
 Greece.  Excellent,
 as usual.Two (possibly rhetorical)
 questions.Why is there a city in Germany named
 Wet Cheeks? (Feuchtwangen.)Whatever happened to
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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[penstemon]

Hence, the name translates as wet or damp meadow which makes more sense than 
wet cheeks,


In German, “feuchtwange”, wet cheeks, but I still like my version, poetic 
license and all, better.

In the same way that I prefer the alternate etymology of the word “saxifraga”; 
an herb used to break up renal calculi. (The notion of a tiny plant being able 
to break rocks is a little far-fetched.)
(And I also like the Rhaeto-Romanic name for the plant: “fendacrap”.) 


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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[penstemon]

Bob, the story is told here:


http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/sagen-aus-bayern-27/90


Thanks. 

I like my explanation better. 


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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

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That's a nice story (my husband Klaus translated it for me) but it doesn't tell 
why the name Feuchtwangen was selected.  Here are two links that translate 
the two parts of this compound name: 
http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Feuchtwangen This one translates 
feucht as wet or damp and wangen as a synonym for Aue, meaning a 
meadow.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_toponymy This site defines the 
suffix wangen to mean meadow.  Hence, the name translates as wet or damp 
meadow which makes more sense than wet cheeks, especially considering the 
story Jim McKenney provided. Jane HendrixMountain View Experimental GardensPeak 
7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado USAElevation: 10,000 feetUSDA Zone: 4Websites: 
http://www.picturetrail.com/snowtrekker7 
http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix  


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To: Jim McKenney jamesamcken...@verizon.net, Alpine-L, the ElectronicRock 
Garden Society; postings copyright by authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] ?
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:36:59 -0700


 Bob, the story is told here:  
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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[Jim McKenney]

Thanks, Jane. Your response is a good example of why I enjoyed Alpine-L so 
much: who would have guessed that someone, somewhere would have thought 
something like this was worth pursuing. On some other lists it would have had 
the complainers crying off topic.
Jim McKenney
  From: k-jhend...@juno.com k-jhend...@juno.com
 To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 8:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] ?
   
That's a nice story (my husband Klaus translated it for me) but it doesn't tell 
why the name Feuchtwangen was selected.  Here are two links that translate 
the two parts of this compound name: 
http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Feuchtwangen This one translates 
feucht as wet or damp and wangen as a synonym for Aue, meaning a 
meadow.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_toponymy This site defines the 
suffix wangen to mean meadow.  Hence, the name translates as wet or damp 
meadow which makes more sense than wet cheeks, especially considering the 
story Jim McKenney provided. Jane HendrixMountain View Experimental GardensPeak 
7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado USAElevation: 10,000 feetUSDA Zone: 4Websites: 
http://www.picturetrail.com/snowtrekker7     
http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix  




-- Original Message --
From: penstemon penste...@q.com
To: Jim McKenney jamesamcken...@verizon.net, Alpine-L, the ElectronicRock 
Garden Society; postings copyright by authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] ?
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:36:59 -0700

 Bob, the story is told here:  
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/sagen-aus-bayern-27/90  Thanks. I like my 
explanation better.  Bob
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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[penstemon]

Yes Bob, what did happen??
I have visited the newer sites and still would prefer Alpine-L.


Maybe it’s because it’s more difficult to have fights on a forum. That spoils 
most of the fun.

I still want to know about Wet Cheeks, the town in Germany. Tears? Did someone 
think a nearby river was frozen solid, and fell in? 

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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[Cohan Fulford]

Nothing happened to Alpine-L as you can see, it is still here if someone
posts  :) -- no one has been posting, that's all! If you want a site to be
active, you need to originate posts-photos and topics for people to
discuss... However, the photo posting system is awkward compared to many
other venues, so that is likely a reason why many people have moved on..
Cohan Fulford

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Kishori Hutchings cusheoncr...@shaw.ca
wrote:

  Yes Bob, what did happen??
 I have visited the newer sites and still would prefer Alpine-L.
 Brian Hutchings
 Salt Spring Is. BC Canada

  *From:* penstemon penste...@q.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:12 AM
 *To:* Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by
 authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl
 *Subject:* Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine - issue
 60

   Featured plants are *Saxifraga dinnikii* forma *alba* and some quite
 amazingly large Cyclamen  from Greece.


 Excellent, as usual.
 Two (possibly rhetorical) questions.
 Why is there a city in Germany named Wet Cheeks? (Feuchtwangen.)
 Whatever happened to Alpine-L, anyway?


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Re: [Alpine-l] ?

[Jim McKenney]

Bob, the story is told here:
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/sagen-aus-bayern-27/90

  From: Kishori Hutchings cusheoncr...@shaw.ca
 To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright by 
authors. alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
 Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] ?
   
Yes Bob, what did happen??I have visited the newer sites and still would prefer 
Alpine-L.Brian HutchingsSalt Spring Is. BC Canada


From: penstemon Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:12 AMTo: Alpine-L, the 
Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by authors. Subject: Re: 
[Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine - issue 60
Featured plants are Saxifraga dinnikii forma alba and some quite amazingly 
large Cyclamen  from Greece.  Excellent, as usual.Two (possibly rhetorical) 
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[Kishori Hutchings]

Yes Bob, what did happen??
I have visited the newer sites and still would prefer Alpine-L.
Brian Hutchings
Salt Spring Is. BC Canada


From: penstemon 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:12 AM
To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by authors. 
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine - issue 60


Featured plants are Saxifraga dinnikii forma alba and some quite amazingly 
large Cyclamen  from Greece.


Excellent, as usual.
Two (possibly rhetorical) questions.
Why is there a city in Germany named Wet Cheeks? (Feuchtwangen.)
Whatever happened to Alpine-L, anyway? 


Bob





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Re: [Alpine-l] [***SPAM***] new disease of aquilegias: downy mildew

[Ted Wilcox]

Is this downy mildew a relative of the downy mildew that destroyed virtually 
all of the busy lizzies (Impatiens) that are(were) such a mainstay of summer 
bedding in England?  This year has been very damp and I have noticed powdery 
mildews (I assume) on a number of plants this year, certainly far more than I 
remember from years past. Last year I lost almost all of my tomatoes in the 
garden due to blight, the only plants thriving were three grafted plants. This 
year I did not grow any but from talking to others this year was as bad if not 
worse. Are the milder winters allowing the fungi to live longer so that they 
produce more spores or are there newer mildews and other fungal diseases 
developing.  


I will keep an eye on the aquilegias inn my garden (mainly self sown hybrids 
but worthy none the less). Thanks for the advice.

Another problem this year (of many) has been the Rosemary beetle but at least 
you can physically crush them although that is not possible with spores and 
even if gardeners could get chemicals to control them I prefer the more 
physical approach.

Ted Wilcox Faversham Kent UK





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To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
Sent: Friday, 26 December 2014, 16:10
Subject: [Alpine-l] [***SPAM***] new disease of aquilegias: downy mildew
 


Here in the UK the killer disease of downy mildew of aquilegias has 
affected my national plant collections.
 
I have written 10 informative photo-webpages about it.
 
Please share the link, as I think the best control will be early 
identification if it gets into your garden / alpine house
 
http://www.touchwoodplants.co.uk/aquilegia-downy-mildew.htm  
 
Best Wishes, Carrie Thomas Tel 01792 522443
'Touchwood', 4 Clyne Valley Cottages, Killay, Swansea, SA2 7DU South Wales, 
UK
 
www.touchwoodplants.co.uk : Seeds  plants by post. Aquilegia 
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardeners -live and kicking!

[Bill Barlen]

Thank you for your message.  It's been a lovely time

Sent from my iPhonel
Please respond to bar...@optonline.net

 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Youngs Aberdeen 
 youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hello Bill,
  
 That's the spirit I expect from alpine lovers and rock gardeners - it's not 
 an interest that goes away.
 I don't travel these days - but I enjoy reading about those places other 
 folks get to visit. Lots of plants
 are not growable in my garden - but I like to find out about them anyway. 
 Important to keep an enquiring mind,
 I think- and I'm glad the IRG is something that keeps your interest.
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Re: [Alpine-l] Cyclamen

[Don/Diane]

Have you counted the number of flowers on one of these monsters?

They are growing in St Paul, Oregon, between Portland and Salem.

Diane Whitehead
Victoria B.C. Canada


On 2014-12-24, at 7:49 AM, occidentale wrote:

 I don't want to brag but we have C. hederifolium corms as big as dinner 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Cyclamen

[Don/Diane]

I think gardeners need a modestly-sized backhoe.  I've had some of my plants 
transplanted by a local backhoe operator who works with amazing delicacy and 
precision.  Of course, that's not to say I would be so successful if I had a 
small machine.  Maybe I just need to keep hiring the big one.

Diane

On 2014-12-24, at 1:47 PM, Youngs Aberdeen wrote:

  hederifolium 56cm in circumference . It flowered for another twenty years 
 before we foolishly tried to move it again.
 What a mistake to make -  we felt awful - plant murderers!

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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine - issue 60

[penstemon]

Featured plants are Saxifraga dinnikii forma alba and some quite amazingly 
large Cyclamen  from Greece.


Excellent, as usual.
Two (possibly rhetorical) questions.
Why is there a city in Germany named Wet Cheeks? (Feuchtwangen.)
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Re: [Alpine-l] Cyclamen

[Brian Whyer]

I was stunned by the size of the Cyclamen bulbs.  I 

thought my four-inch bulbs were enormous.  Oddly, though, the blooms seemed 
not to be comparatively larger.  How strange!

You would not expect them to get larger, just more numerous. Look at some of 
the AGS show plants by Google(ing) AGS Cyclamen greacum, and images. The thing 
that always fools me is how they are made to flower in nice neat evenly spaced 
circles when my plants in pots insist on the flower stems running to the pot 
edge and then rising. Maybe with age it will happen; if I can wait that long.

My larger greacum are in pots tight against a south facing wall but will be 
moved under glass if we get a real winter. Not tried them in the ground proper 
in this garden yet. Don't really have a nice warm flower bed against a wall. An 
ancient wild form persicum has survived in a pot outside for some years but 
lost its cental growing point.

Brian Whyer, Buckinghamshire, England, zone ~8
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Re: [Alpine-l] Cyclamen

[Diane Whitehead]

A friend found hederifolium corms as big as saucers in old gardens here.

I haven’t had much success with graecum, though, in or out of pots.

Diane Whitehead
Victoria British Columbia, Canada


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 I was stunned by the size of the Cyclamen bulbs.  I thought my four-inch 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Cyclamen

[penstemon]

Incidentally, I planted my bulbs about an inch underground, but they move to 
the surface and are easily seen with about half the bulb above ground.

All of my cyclamen do the same thing. I figure they know what they want better 
than I do. I usually plant them that way, with just the lower half in the 
ground.
I knew cyclamen tubers could get big, but not that big 

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3648) Botrychium lunaria

[Jim McKenney]

Thanks, Cliff: that's about as close to actually seeing it that I will ever get!
About fifty years ago I saw Botrychium lunaria offered on a seed exchange: I 
requested it, and when it arrived I was both disappointed and angry: angry 
because the stupid collector had picked the leaves (which could not have helped 
the plant) , and disappointed because it made no sense to sow the leaves. 

Jim McKenney



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Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:59 PM
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3648) Botrychium lunaria
 

Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3648) Botrychium lunaria

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Name: Botrychium lunaria
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine from the Scottish Rock Garden Club

[Barbara Coatney]

-great pictures, We are so lucky to live in a time where all this information can be shared to easily. Thank you for all the great work you do.Barbara


International Rock Gardener e-magazine from the Scottish Rock Garden Club 

The August IRGhas articles from Grahame Ware on a charming 
Campanula and a 
report from the Haut Chitelet Garden from Phippe 
Chauvet : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Aug281409242117IRG56.pdf

If you have an article or even just a shortportrait of a 
favourite alpine flower
for the IRG, we'd love to hear from you 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Chelsea Flower Show

[Barbara Coatney]

  ebay.com has several and if you scroll down far enough, there is one for 
$7.61 with free shipping.  you would have to ask what year as it doesn't say.
Barnes and Noble has a softcover and a hardback.  Sometimes you get it for 
half price with a charge and send deal.




Does anyone have a guidebook/programme for Chelsea Flower
Show
(preferably a recent year) that you'd be willing to loan us
for a few days?  We'll pay postage both ways.

Regards,

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3636) Pulsatilla vernali s

[k-jhend...@juno.com]

Cliff, I loved your photo of Pulsatilla vernalis just beginning to bloom.  It 
gives me hope that there really are flowers under our 5 feet (1.52m) of 
Colorado snow! Jane hendrixMountain View Experimental GardensPeak 7 Area - 
Breckenridge, Colorado U.S.A.Elevation: 10,000 feet (3048 meters)USDA Zone 
4Website:  http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix New Website:  
http://www.picturetrail.com/snowtrekker7   

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To: Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3636) Pulsatilla vernalis
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:00:45 +0200

Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3636) Pulsatilla vernalis
 
 From: Cliff Booker
 eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
 Name: Pulsatilla vernalis
 Note: 

 URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3636
 File: Pulsatilla/Pulsatilla_vernalis_3636.jpg
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

[Graham Nicholls]

Congratulations Edward, I thought I grew my plants well but you seem to have 
got a nice form from me. I'm green!!
Graham Nicholls



-Original Message-
From: Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com
To: Alpine-l Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:30
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata 
(Pryor Mtn form)


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3632
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

[zanspi]

Graham,
you grow your plants more than just well.  But that IS a really
nice form of Townsendia spathulata.
Anne



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To: alpine-l alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 9:46 am
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)


Congratulations Edward, I thought I grew my plants well but you seem to have 
got a nice form from me. I'm green!!
Graham Nicholls



-Original Message-
From: Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com
To: Alpine-l Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:30
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata 
(Pryor Mtn form)


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3632
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

[Graham Nicholls]

Hi Anne, Ev Whittemore discovered it growing in the Pryors many years ago and I 
first managed to grow it from seed collected by her. The plants around now have 
been grown first from seed collected by Brian Welzenbach of Bozeman MN then 
from seed from my own plants after hand pollination. Even better is the form 
grown from seeds collected by Brian and nicknamed 'Cottonballs' that makes 
furry cotton balls with white to lemon stemless flowers. Again hand pollination 
works here as well.
cheers
Graham



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From: zanspi zan...@aol.com
To: alpine-l alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:19
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)


Graham,
you grow your plants more than just well.  But that IS a really
nice form of Townsendia spathulata.
Anne



-Original Message-
From: Graham Nicholls grapl...@aol.com
To: alpine-l alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 9:46 am
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)


Congratulations Edward, I thought I grew my plants well but you seem to have 
got a nice form from me. I'm green!!
Graham Nicholls



-Original Message-
From: Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com
To: Alpine-l Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:30
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata 
(Pryor Mtn form)


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3632
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

[zanspi]

Graham, that's superb.  Do you grow it outside or is it in the alpine house?
Anne



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Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
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One of my 'Cottonballs'
cheers
Graham


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Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:51
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)



Hi Anne, Ev Whittemore discovered it growing in the Pryors many years ago and I 
first managed to grow it from seed collected by her. The plants around now have 
been grown first from seed collected by Brian Welzenbach of Bozeman MN then 
from seed from my own plants after hand pollination. Even better is the form 
grown from seeds collected by Brian and nicknamed 'Cottonballs' that makes 
furry cotton balls with white to lemon stemless flowers. Again hand pollination 
works here as well.
cheers
Graham



-Original Message-
From: zanspi zan...@aol.com
To: alpine-l alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:19
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)


Graham,
you grow your plants more than just well.  But that IS a really
nice form of Townsendia spathulata.
Anne



-Original Message-
From: Graham Nicholls grapl...@aol.com
To: alpine-l alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 9:46 am
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia 
spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)


Congratulations Edward, I thought I grew my plants well but you seem to have 
got a nice form from me. I'm green!!
Graham Nicholls



-Original Message-
From: Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com
To: Alpine-l Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:30
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata 
(Pryor Mtn form)


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3632) Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Townsendia spathulata (Pryor Mtn form)
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3632
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 6

[Ed Bowen]

Many thanks, Joyce.  It's been so many years since I ordered from her (15?) 
that I forgot all about her as a source.

Ed Bowen

Misspelled on my iPad


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 I just received Dr. Berkutenko's latest seedlist.  It is a listing of  
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 more complete information if you contact her about specific items.
 
 If anyone is interested in a copy, please contact me privately.
 
 Best regards -
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 I thought Dr. Berkutenko wasn't producing seedlist anymore. I'd be really 
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Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

[Ingolf Bogø]

Hi Christina.
Have you tried Primulaworld. 
Pamela in Canada know a lot about Primulas.
Ingolf Bogø, Denmark

From: GARY DUNLOP 
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:34 PM
To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by authors. 
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

Hi Christina, 

Have you tried the Alpine Garden Society or the Scottish Rock Garden Society, 
both have websites, and someone in either society should be able to give you a 
means of contacting Professor Richards, who is an authority on Chinese primula.

Gary Dunlop

 

Hi I have a white (albino) Primula viallii. Dr Webster who holds the National 
Collection (UK) of primula, but not viallii, sent me a link which has brought 
me to you.

Do you know if there are any out there and have names?

Christina Smith
Undergraduate Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
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Re: [Alpine-l] Contacting Daniella Goll

[Vincent CODRON]

Indeed Daniela died on 7 April 2005. I was a good friend's rockery plants of 
Daniel. She was on the board of the SAJA like me. We still think about she. But 
I have no news of her husband for several years.
Vincent Codron

Le 19 janv. 2014 à 09:02, CLIFF BOOKER a écrit :

 I am very sorry to have to tell you that dear Daniella sadly passed away 
 quite a number of years ago.  Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.
 
 Cliff Booker
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] Contacting Daniella Goll

[CLIFF BOOKER]

I am very sorry to have to tell you that dear Daniella sadly passed away quite 
a number of years ago.  Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.

Cliff Booker

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Re: [Alpine-l] Contacting Daniella Goll

[leslie flanigan]

For some reason I have been getting messages directed to Daniella--perhaps a 
broken link in Alpine's address book?





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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Contacting Daniella Goll
 

I am very sorry to have to tell you that dear Daniella sadly passed away quite 
a number of years ago.  Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.

Cliff Booker

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Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

[GARY DUNLOP]

Hi Christina, 
 
Have you tried the Alpine Garden Society or the Scottish Rock Garden Society, 
both have websites, and someone in either society should be able to give you a 
means of contacting Professor Richards, who is an authority on Chinese primula.
 
Gary Dunlop

 

Hi I have a white (albino) Primula viallii. Dr Webster who holds the National 
Collection (UK) of primula, but not viallii, sent me a link which has brought 
me to you.

Do you know if there are any out there and have names?

Christina Smith
Undergraduate Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
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Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

[Jan Dave Dobak]

You might also visit  www.primulaworld.com , an excellent
site maintained by Pam Eveleigh.

 

Regards,

Dave Dobak

 

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[mailto:alpine-l-boun...@science.uu.nl] On Behalf Of GARY
DUNLOP
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:34 AM
To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings
copyright by authors.
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

 

Hi Christina, 

 

Have you tried the Alpine Garden Society or the Scottish
Rock Garden Society, both have websites, and someone in
either society should be able to give you a means of
contacting Professor Richards, who is an authority on
Chinese primula.

 

Gary Dunlop


Hi I have a white (albino) Primula viallii. Dr Webster who
holds the National Collection (UK) of primula, but not
viallii, sent me a link which has brought me to you.

Do you know if there are any out there and have names?

Christina Smith
Undergraduate Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh

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Re: [Alpine-l] A white Primula vialii

[Christina Smith]

Hi I have a white (albino) Primula viallii. Dr Webster who holds the National 
Collection (UK) of primula, but not viallii, sent me a link which has brought 
me to you.

Do you know if there are any out there and have names?

Christina Smith
Undergraduate Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
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Re: [Alpine-l] Contacting Daniela Goll

[Mirka Christesen]

Hello Daniela,
Robert and I have been wondering how you and your family were doing.  We want 
to wish you a happy new year. Do you still breed cats and are into rock 
gardens?  
I would love to hear more about you. Remember Caruso?  We loved him so much.
Hugs,
Mirka Christesen 

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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3622) Ranunculus glacialis

[zanspi]

Wonderful, wonderful



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Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3622) Ranunculus glacialis


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3622) Ranunculus glacialis

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Ranunculus glacialis
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Re: [Alpine-l] Hypericum imbricatum

[Nancy Robinson]

I found an entry in Variegated Trees and Shrubs The Illustrated Encyclopedia by 
Ronald Houtman in association with the Royal Boskoop Horticultural Society with 
a picture of Hypericum x inodorum 'Autumn Surprise'.  There is a description of 
the plant from Hulsdonk Garden Centre, Zundert,  The Netherlands, 2002. It is a 
very colorful plant with large fruit.  Hope this gives you some where to look.
Nancy Robinson  Tennessee USA
 
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To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 23:48:12 +
Subject: [Alpine-l]  Hypericum imbricatum









It seems that Ms Poulter was not prolific..
http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=7901-1back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditAdvAuthorSearch.do%3Ffind_abbreviation%3D%26find_surname%3DPoulter%26find_isoCountry%3D%26find_forename%3D%26output_format%3Dnormal
Poulter, Barbara A. (fl. 1954) 
Standard Form:
Poulter

Area of Interest:
Spermatophytes 

Example of Name Published:
Notes Bot. Gard., Edinburgh, 21: 181 (1954)


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Re: [Alpine-l] Hypericum imbricatum

[Vincent CODRON]

Hello Maggi,
Thank you for your message and informations.
Unfortunately, I don't find description and articles about this plant, or in 
extension articles or scientific publication. Also, the author (Poulter) is 
unknown for me.
However, I know now that Hypericum imbricatum  grows in southern Turkey, in the 
country, opposite the island of Cyprus.
Kinds regards
Vincent

Le 13 déc. 2013 à 22:56, Youngs Aberdeen a écrit :

 Hello Vincent,
  
 Kew Plantlist  gives the name as Hypericum imbricatum  Poulter  -  
 original publication details: Notes Roy. Bot. Gard. Edinburgh 21: 183 1954.
  IPNI   http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=428482-1
  
 Some links to holotype/Isotypes online
 http://plants.jstor.org/search?personName=16266
 
 http://plants.jstor.org/specimen/e00327629?s=t
 
 http://plants.jstor.org/specimen/k000677145?s=t
 
 Several  Flemish friends  are growing this plant - mostly  from Pavelka seed, 
 I think.
 
  
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3612) Ranunculus haastii

[zanspi]

Nice picture, Cliff.  Proves that not all alpines of New Zealand are white!



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Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 10:31 am
Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3612) Ranunculus haastii


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3612) Ranunculus haastii

From: Cliff Booker
eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
Name: Ranunculus haastii
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3612
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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3610) Hedysarum hedysaroides

[zanspi]

Nice pictures, Cliff.  Always love seeing this in the wild.



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Subject: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3610) Hedysarum hedysaroides


Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3610) Hedysarum hedysaroides

From: Cliff Booker
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Name: Hedysarum hedysaroides
Note: 

URL: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3610
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener 45 September 2013 ISSN 2053-7557

[Johnsonelin]

Thank you.  I thoroughly enjoyed this photographic  journey!
Elin Johnson
 
 
In a message dated 9/26/2013 7:29:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com writes:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Sep271380237181IRG45September2013.pdf


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Re: [Alpine-l] new issue of International Rock Gardener

[Ralph Spofford]

Could you please tell me which issue of  IRG has the articke of Harvey 
Wrightman and Zdenek Zvolanek showing the construction of a trough containing 
crevice rocks.  I have seen this article but cannot get back to it.  

With many thanks,

Mickey Spofford
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  From: Youngs Aberdeen 
  To: Alpine-L . 
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:40 PM
  Subject: [Alpine-l] new issue of International Rock Gardener


  Ralph Spofford ralphs2 at tds.net 
  Tue Sep 10 20:55:13 CEST 2013 
Please include the web links

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  Sorry, I forgot to add the links for the IRG magazine  

  http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international is the home page for 
all issues of IRG 

  and access is also possible from www.srgc.net


  Kind regards,

  M. Young 


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Re: [Alpine-l] new issue of International Rock Gardener

[Valerie Melanson]

Hello Ralph,
There was an article by Harvey Wrightman in issue # 14, Feb 2011, p 4 - 8
on troughs with crevices.  Is that the one?
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Feb241298591020IRG14_Feb_2011.pdf
Best wishes,
Valerie Melanson


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 **
 Could you please tell me which issue of  IRG has the articke of Harvey
 Wrightman and Zdenek Zvolanek showing the construction of a trough
 containing crevice rocks.  I have seen this article but cannot get back to
 it.
   
   With
 many thanks,

 Mickey Spofford

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 *From:* Youngs Aberdeen youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com
 *To:* Alpine-L . alpine-l@science.uu.nl
 *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 4:40 PM
 *Subject:* [Alpine-l] new issue of International Rock Gardener

 *Ralph Spofford* ralphs2 at tds.net
 alpine-l@science.uu.nl?Subject=Re:%20%5BAlpine-l%5D%20new%20issue%20of%20International%20Rock%20GardenerIn-Reply-To=%3C32DA44BA026545ABA625FEAE8D651BCC%40D2TT1J31%3E
 *Tue Sep 10 20:55:13 CEST 2013*

 Please include the web links

 **
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 Sorry, I forgot to add the links for the IRG magazine

 http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international is the home page
 for all issues of IRG

 and access is also possible from www.srgc.net


 Kind regards,

 M. Young

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Re: [Alpine-l] June 2013 Issue of International Rock Gardener

[Shirley Friberg]

To Maggie Young,
   I loved your May and June issue of The International Rock Gardener so much 
I wanted all my chapter NARGS readers to see it.  I also am very interested in 
going to the Czech Republic.  We visited it when it was Czechoslovikia before I 
became really interested in rock gardening. Perhaps we could get some of our US 
people interested in going.  
Shirley Friberg
MN Chapter NARGS
 
On Jun 29, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Youngs Aberdeen wrote:

 To Barbara Coatney :
 Thank you Barbara - it is always good get feedback - especially from 
 happy readers!
 
  M
 
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] June 2013 Issue of International Rock Gardener

[Youngs Aberdeen]

To Barbara Coatney :
Thank you Barbara - it is always good get feedback - especially from 
happy readers!

  M


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Re: [Alpine-l] June 2013 Issue of International Rock Gardener

[Barbara Coatney]

Maggie,Outstanding!Barbara--- youngs.aberd...@btinternet.com wrote:From: "Youngs Aberdeen" youngs.aberd...@btinternet.comTo: "Alpine-L." alpine-l@science.uu.nlSubject: [Alpine-l] June  2013 Issue of International Rock GardenerDate: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:12:23 +0100

The June Issue of International Rock Gardener, the second rporting on 
the recent Czech rock garden conference and garden tours, is now 
online:http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Jun281372419197IRG42June.pdf 


Regards,

M. Young 


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Re: [Alpine-l] Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3573) Fritillaria davidii

[BARBARA van Achterberg]

Gorgeous! Never heard of it before.


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Cliff Booker bookcli...@aol.com wrote:

 Alpine-L Gallery Image Upload (3573) Fritillaria davidii

 From: Cliff Booker
 eMail: bookcli...@aol.com
 Name: Fritillaria davidii
 Note: This magnificent potful was exhibited by Brian and
 Jo Walker and gained the Farrer Medal for 'Best exhibit at the Show'.

 URL:
 http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=AlpenPixid=3573
 File: Fritillaria/Fritillaria_davidii_3573.jpg

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Re: [Alpine-l] variegated plant book

[Joel Spingarn]

HI BARRY,THIS BOOK WRITTEN BY MASATO YOKOI AND YOSHIMICHI HIROSETHANK YOU JOEL
  Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:13:28 -0400
 From: barryyin...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Alpine-l] variegated plant book
 To: Alpine-l@science.uu.nl
 
 Do you know the author of the variegated plant book on the book list?
 
 Thank you
 
 Barry Yinger
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine issue 38

[zanspi]

Maggi,
Yet another spectacular issue of IRG.  Loved Ian Christie's article, especially 
to see Mertensia maritima in situ.
No wonder I can't keep that one when I see where it grows.  Also the cordalis 
pictures were so beautiful.
The photography is always so excellent.  I feel I've had a preview of spring, 
which I hear is supposed to show
up here one of these days.
Anne Spiegel


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Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:49 am
Subject: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener  e-magazine issue 38


Dear Alpine Elves, 
My apologies for not letting you know eat the proper time about the February 
issue of International Rock Gardener-
 
IRG  #38 February 2013

Ian Christie has been lucky enough to travel to see plants in nature in many 
parts of the world but he never loses sight of the beauty that is available in 
his own country, Scotland. Scottish Mountains may not be the highest, but the 
landscape can be dramatic and plants of the mountain and woodland can be found 
even almost at the edge of the sea. Ian shares his delight in such plants. 

Ian Young, writes for the ‘world of bulbs’ on one of his favourite tubers, 
Corydalis solida and the garden forms of this plant that do well in North East 
Scotland. Ian has documented his experiences growing bulbs corms and tubers 
every week since 2003 in his Bulb Log Diary on the SRGC Site. 

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Mar011362129867IRG38Feb2013.pdf
 
 
M.Young
 
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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine issue 38

[robyn82hn]

I still need a pass word to read the issues...having a faster computer 
does not help if I can't access the information.
Thanks, Nancy Robinson  Tennessee where it is still snowing big flakes 
but not sticking but it is suppose to be Spring already!


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Youngs wrote:

 Dear Alpine Elves, My apologies for not letting you know eat the 
 proper time about the February issue of International Rock Gardener-

 IRG  #38 February 2013

 Ian Christie has been lucky enough to travel to see plants in nature 
 in many parts of the world but he never loses sight of the beauty that 
 is available in his own country, Scotland. Scottish Mountains may not 
 be the highest, but the landscape can be dramatic and plants of the 
 mountain and woodland can be found even almost at the edge of the sea. 
 Ian shares his delight in such plants.
 Ian Young, writes for the 'world of bulbs' on one of his favourite 
 tubers, Corydalis solida and the garden forms of this plant that do 
 well in North East Scotland. Ian has documented his experiences 
 growing bulbs corms and tubers every week since 2003 in his Bulb Log 
 Diary on the SRGC Site.
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Mar011362129867IRG38Feb2013.pdf


 M.Young

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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener e-magazine issue 38

[CLIFF BOOKER]

Hi Nancy,
Have you tried accessing each of the pdf files from this page?

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international

They are all wonderful reads.

Kind regards,

Cliff
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Re: [Alpine-l] books sale

[Barry Yinger]

Do you know the author of the Japanese variegated plant book on the book list?

Thank you

Barry Yinger

On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Joel Spingarn wrote:

 BOOK LIST.xlsx

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Re: [Alpine-l] Leptinella dendyi

[Kyle Baker]

Have only found Leptinella squalid 'Platt's black'.but will look again one 
of these days
 
Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
Maine Zone 5



 From: Jan  Dave Dobak jddo...@pcez.com
To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: [Alpine-l] Leptinella dendyi
 
Does anyone know of a source for Leptinella dendyi (=Cotula
dendyi)
in the United States?  It is commonly available in the UK,
but
we have not seen it in US nurseries. It originally comes
from New
Zealand.

Thanks,

Jan  Dave Dobak


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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener

[BARBARA van Achterberg]

The late Frank Cabot grew them in his Canadian garden along the St.
Lawrence River. Even he didn't grow them in his Cold Springs, New York
garden.
Barbara van Achterberg

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Henry treehugger5...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Shirley,

 The folks from Two Harbors and Cloquet, both near Duluth, Minnesota, have
 had good luck them.

 In the Twin Cities, no one I know has grown them a long time.

 A few years ago we decided not to continue selling /Meconopsis/ as we felt
 we were setting people up for failure.

 There was a mini uproar from the blue poppy fans! So we still keep it on
 the list.

 Why haven't I tried them in my mother's Zone 3 garden?

 --Henry Fieldseth
 Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, Zone 4/5
 http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com



 --- On *Fri, 1/4/13, Shirley Friberg sjfriber...@gmail.com* wrote:

 Henry,
  Yes, I know that some gardeners in Minnesota have grown Meconopsis
 especially with the right micro climate, but I do not know anyone who has
 grown it for a long time. Do you?

 Shirley Friberg
 St Paul, MN.
 Zone 5


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Re: [Alpine-l] International Rock Gardener

[Henry]

Shirley,

The folks from Two Harbors and Cloquet, both near Duluth, Minnesota, have had 
good luck them.

In the Twin Cities, no one I know has grown them a long time.

A few years ago we decided not to continue selling /Meconopsis/ as we felt we 
were setting people up for failure.

There was a mini uproar from the blue poppy fans! So we still keep it on the 
list.

Why haven't I tried them in my mother's Zone 3 garden?

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, Zone 4/5
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com


--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Shirley Friberg sjfriber...@gmail.com wrote:
Henry, Yes, I know that some gardeners in Minnesota have grown Meconopsis 
especially with the right micro climate, but I do not know anyone who has grown 
it for a long time. Do you?
Shirley Friberg St Paul, MN. Zone 5___
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