Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Jaroslav, Inversion works. BTW, I have tried 'inv' LADSPA plugin (as ALSA device) - it works too. (Is it sufficient to perform futher tests with hw:0,1 only?) Andrew === On Thursday 05 October 2006 17:58, you wrote: === Okay, what about route plugin: pcm.routetest { type rout

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Jaroslav, > > Have tried the script. With given sample a speaker cone moves from a > listener rather toward one. As 0x12345600 hasn't 0x8000 bit set, I > suggest a cone must move toward a listener. Well, to avoid any mysticism > I simply measure

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Sorry, have fogot to mention I have checked both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 devices with the same result (using non-inverting external DAC at last case). Andrew -- Forwarded Message -- Jaroslav, Have tried the script. With given sample a speaker cone moves from a listener rather towa

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Jaroslav, Have tried the script. With given sample a speaker cone moves from a listener rather toward one. As 0x12345600 hasn't 0x8000 bit set, I suggest a cone must move toward a listener. Well, to avoid any mysticism I simply measured DAC output with multimeter :-) The output is negative,

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Jaroslav, > > I use (with JACK) 'hw:0,0' for analog output and 'hw:0,1' for SPDIF one. Could you try a more "lowlevel" tool like aplay with a raw file? You may try the python script bellow (modify values as you want to measure level for different sa

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Jaroslav, I use (with JACK) 'hw:0,0' for analog output and 'hw:0,1' for SPDIF one. Andrew === On Thursday 05 October 2006 15:39, you wrote: === On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > I use ICE1724 ALSA driver for Terratec Aureon 7.1 Space card. Almost > all is fine, big thanks to

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-05 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > I use ICE1724 ALSA driver for Terratec Aureon 7.1 Space card. Almost > all is fine, big thanks to developers! Nevertheless, I have noticed > both default (line out) and plug:spdif devices'es outputs are inverted. > Is it possible to configure additional

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-04 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
James, Thanks! I'm happy you have found a minute to devote to the problem :-) 'lspci -vnn | grep 0401' output is: 02:02.0 0401: 1412:1724 (rev 01) As for a DAC in use, I didn't understand the question reason: the problem exists for *both* line and spdif outputs. At any case, I must answer :-) C

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-04 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 03/10/06, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use ICE1724 ALSA driver for Terratec Aureon 7.1 Space card. Almost > all is fine, big thanks to developers! Nevertheless, I have noticed > both default (line out) and plug:spdif devices'es outputs are inverted. > Is it possible to configur

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 06:41 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Sergei, > > You are right, "as binary signal value increases analog output > value decreases". As for reference, I'm an audio DIY-er, almost all > signal chain is made by my hand :-) > > LADSPA is a more high level. ALSA driver configuri

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Sergei, You are right, "as binary signal value increases analog output value decreases". As for reference, I'm an audio DIY-er, almost all signal chain is made by my hand :-) LADSPA is a more high level. ALSA driver configuring is much more appreciated. Andrew === On Tuesday 03 October 200

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Bill, I'll be happy to avoid an audiophile dispute :-) The problem is technical, I use a sound card for measurement purposes. Andrew === On Tuesday 03 October 2006 06:23, you wrote: === But this is inaudible, or you could just wire your speakers backwards. How do you know that the sign

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 06:22:17 +0400 Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill, > > "Inverted" means ... inverted :-) In another words, signal is > multiplied by -1. > > > Andrew > > === On Tuesday 03 October 2006 06:12, you wrote: === > > What do you mean by "inverted? > >

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Bill, "Inverted" means ... inverted :-) In another words, signal is multiplied by -1. Andrew === On Tuesday 03 October 2006 06:12, you wrote: === What do you mean by "inverted? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence

Re: [Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > I use ICE1724 ALSA driver for Terratec Aureon 7.1 Space card. Almost > all is fine, big thanks to developers! Nevertheless, I have noticed > both default (line out) and plug:spdif devices'es outputs are inverted. > Is it possible to configure additional

[Alsa-user] configuring ALSA driver to avoid invertion

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
I use ICE1724 ALSA driver for Terratec Aureon 7.1 Space card. Almost all is fine, big thanks to developers! Nevertheless, I have noticed both default (line out) and plug:spdif devices'es outputs are inverted. Is it possible to configure additional inversion and, as a result, to get "normal" output