Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-07 Thread Peter Hartman
I'm glad your issue was resolved, but if you check the start of this thread, it was my original issue, which is still unresolved, that started this all off! :) Any insights into the issue? Thanks, Peter On 10/7/06, Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:55:29 -0400,

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:27:16 -0400, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 16:19 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: Blacklisting snd-usb-audio would be a pretty heavy handed approach. Applications should not rely on any specific card ordering. And people should not speed on the highways.

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:26:50 +0200, Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: Blacklisting snd-usb-audio would be a pretty heavy handed approach. Applications should not

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The correct way to specify sound card order is to set 'index' options in modprobe.conf (or whatever file is used). This works regardless of the order in which the drivers are loaded. I know that, but it just don't work

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 06 October 2006 13:35, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The correct way to specify sound card order is to set 'index' options in modprobe.conf (or whatever file is used). This works regardless of the order in which

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:35:43 +0200, Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The correct way to specify sound card order is to set 'index' options in modprobe.conf (or whatever file is used). This works regardless of

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Peter Hartman
Working: localhost peterjh # cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 Codec: SigmaTel ID 7634 Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x83847634 Subsystem Id: 0x107b0461 Revision Id: 0x100101 Default PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05,

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The correct way to specify sound card order is to set 'index' options in modprobe.conf (or whatever file is used). This works regardless of the

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:48:28 +0200, Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The correct way to specify sound card order is to set 'index'

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Dominique Michel wrote: The fact is at the alsa configuration in modprobe.conf will not work as expected if udev load some sound module before modprobe or alsasound. Both udev and alsasound use modprobe to load modules. I just checked my alsa configuration files to see if it was no

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:34:07 +0200, Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: The fact is at the alsa configuration in modprobe.conf will not work as expected if udev load some sound module before modprobe or alsasound. Both udev and alsasound use modprobe to

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:37:37 +0200 Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ### It seem correct to me, but I can be wrong. For me, the problem is only at udev load the driver before alsasound. Udev have its own rules, and even if it use modprobe, I don't think at

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Stephen Mollett
On Friday 06 October 2006 20:37, Dominique Michel wrote: Please show the contents of your modprobe.conf. Here it is: ... ### This file is automatically generated by modules-update # # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add # anything please take a look at the

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 21:37 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: options snd-snd-usb-audio index=1 [...] alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio options snd-snd-usb-audio index=1 snd-snd-usb-audio is wrong, it should be snd-usb-audio. Did you create these files by hand? Or is it a Gentoo bug? Lee

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 22:29 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote: I think that we, end users, want the following: * we want to be able to disconnect/reconnect external cards; * we want to be able to use (crappy) internal audio chips for things like Internet telephony; * whenever we

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 06 October 2006 21:37, Dominique Michel wrote: Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:34:07 +0200, Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dominique Michel wrote: The fact is at the alsa configuration in modprobe.conf will not work as expected if udev load some sound module before

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Dominique Michel
If you want to use the alsa-driver packages with gentoo, you must not have alsa compiled with the driver. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Le Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:09:44 -0500, Peter Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi, I've had quite a headache with the snd hda intel driver.

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:42:17 +0200, Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : If you want to use the alsa-driver packages with gentoo, you must not have alsa compiled with the driver. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Sorry, it is in fact: you must not have alsa compiled

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:42 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: It can be the case if you have an USB sound card as a webcam. The snd_usb_audio will be loaded by hotplug before at alsasound load the alsa modules, and the regular sound card will be the second sound card. If it is the case, you

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Peter Hartman
Hi Dominique: 1) hotplug isn't running. 2) A little more clarification: when I run alsamixer (on the occasions when it works) it only shows the Master; but on the occasions when it stops working, a mysterious SPDIF setting is available (with the Master as well). 3) If I run

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Peter Hartman
Update: 1) If sound isn't working, and I run alsaconf, it then starts working. 2) My lsmod | grep snd on these occasions is: snd_pcm_oss31328 0 snd_mixer_oss 13888 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss26624 0 snd_seq_device 5384 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:42 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: It can be the case if you have an USB sound card as a webcam. The snd_usb_audio will be loaded by hotplug before at alsasound load the alsa modules, and the regular sound card will be the second

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Peter Hartman
There is nothing else in lsmod except my ipw3945 wireless. The kernel, of course, has CONFIG_SOUND on but CONFIG_SND and CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME off. I put that in my blacklist regardless, but I don't think that is the issue. On 10/5/06, Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Peter

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Peter Hartman wrote: Hi Dominique: 1) hotplug isn't running. If you have udev, hotplug is always running. And udev is the standard these days. 2) A little more clarification: when I run alsamixer (on the occasions when it works) it only shows the Master; but on the

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:45:14 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:42 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: It can be the case if you have an USB sound card as a webcam.

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Peter Hartman wrote: There is nothing else in lsmod except my ipw3945 wireless. The kernel, of course, has CONFIG_SOUND on but CONFIG_SND and CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME off. CONFIG_SND should be m, for modules. You WANT alsa support. I put that in my blacklist regardless, but

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:42 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: It can be the case if you have an USB sound card as a webcam. The snd_usb_audio will be loaded by

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 16:19 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 14:33 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 20:42 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: It can be the case if you have an USB sound

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Peter Hartman
I'm using the alsa-driver-1.0.11 package as the alternative to the inbuilt kernel modules. According to this site: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml I want CONFIG_SND off, since I am using the package. 1. CONFIG_SOUND is set. (Basic Sound support enabled) 2. CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

2006-10-05 Thread Richard Fish
On 10/5/06, Peter Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, in summary: (1) Immediately after running alsaconf, sound works. I have only Master in my alsamixer. If I run /etc/init.d/alsasound restart, even though the same modules are listed as loaded, sound stops working and in alsamixer I have