[Alsa-user] This appears to be the problem I am getting with this list - and now other lists - DMARC / DKIM / SPF

2020-08-03 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

FYI, this seems to explain (most of) my hassles mailing to this list:

  Yahoo breaks every mailing list in the world including the IETF's
  
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/J-IsfA0Lb-6T_NeMD1ENKZyb9tA/


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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem with sending a reply to the list - previous replies were OK . .

2020-08-03 Thread Philip Rhoades

lists,


On 2020-08-03 17:13, lists wrote:
I run my own email server. I use this to verify my server is working 
properly.


https://dkimvalidator.com/



Thanks - I will have a look.



I haven't been following this thread. If you aren't running your own
email server, I don't see how you can effect SPF or DKIM.



Yes I do run my own email server (IndiMail - an updated version of 
QMail) - the problem is that of the reports I get daily about my setup, 
only roughly 50% pass DKIM - it is better for SPF.  I don't understand 
why it is not 0% or 100% . .




SPF means your email comes from an IP address that is allowed to send
email from your domain.



Yes.



This is handled by your DNS. DKIM is
substantially more difficult to explain. It is a way to
cryptographically sign your message. If you pass DKIM then the message
has not been altered.



How could my DKIM setup not be either 0% or 100% ?



One way to fail SPF is to use a remailer.



Well I don't have that problem . .

Thanks for the info!

Phil.





  Original Message  


From: p...@pricom.com.au
Sent: August 2, 2020 11:45 PM
To: alan01...@gmail.com
Reply-to: p...@pricom.com.au
Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Problem with sending a reply to the list -
previous replies were OK . .


Alan,


On 2020-08-03 01:43, Alan Corey wrote:

I don''t remember the exact error message, it was something like
"unable to establish secure connection to ...".  I spent a lot of time
digging into it and the simple fix was just to reboot the router which
hadn't been done in months.  My router then was a cell phone with
battery and charger so it was mostly always up.  It was affecting SSL
connections to some web sites but not all.



As expected, rebooting my modem did not help - I still get the DKIM
error messages when I post to this list - I will just have to spend 
more

time on it yet again to try and work out why some sites are failing . .
it would be nice if there are some DKIM / DMARC / SPF gurus here who
could help me . .

Thanks,

Phil.




On 8/2/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

Alan,


On 2020-07-30 14:44, Alan Corey wrote:

When was the last time you rebooted your router?  I've seen that
solve
weird things.



Just did that now before sending this reply . . but I bet I will get
this stupid DMARC / DKIM problem again . .

Thanks,

P.



On 7/30/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

Alan,


On 2020-07-29 23:58, Alan Corey wrote:

Could it be because you changed the subject line?  It wouldn't
surprise me if something does a hash of the subject.  I don't know
a
lot about secure email with SSL and all that.



I don't think so - posting this note also caused me to receive
similar
error messages - even though in both cases the email made it onto
the
list . . must be some sort of DKIM problem I think . .

Thanks,

Phil.



On 7/29/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

People,

I tried to reply to my previous thread with a slightly modified
Subject:

    SOLVED: Re: Anybody got Google Meet going on Linux (Fedora)
with
just
ALSA (ie not with PulseAudio)?

and received a response:

This is an authentication failure report for an email message
received
from pricom.com.au on Wed Jul 29 10:43:32 UTC 2020
Received-SPF: pass (domain of lists.sourceforge.net designates
216.105.38.7 as permitted sender)
Authentication-Results: atlas201.free.mail.ir2.yahoo.com;
   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sourceforge.net header.s=x;
   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sf.net header.s=x;
   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@pricom.com.au header.s=phr1;
   spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lists.sourceforge.net;
   dmarc=success(p=NONE,sp=NONE) header.from=pricom.com.au;
.
.

How can I fix this?

Thanks,

Phil.
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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem with sending a reply to the list - previous replies were OK . .

2020-08-03 Thread lists
I run my own email server. I use this to verify my server is working properly. 

https://dkimvalidator.com/

I haven't been following this thread. If you aren't running your own email 
server, I don't see how you can effect SPF or DKIM. 

SPF means your email comes from an IP address that is allowed to send email 
from your domain. This is handled by your DNS. DKIM is substantially more 
difficult to explain. It is a way to cryptographically sign your message. If 
you pass DKIM then the message has not been altered. 

One way to fail SPF is to use a remailer. 






  Original Message  


From: p...@pricom.com.au
Sent: August 2, 2020 11:45 PM
To: alan01...@gmail.com
Reply-to: p...@pricom.com.au
Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Problem with sending a reply to the list - previous 
replies were OK . .


Alan,


On 2020-08-03 01:43, Alan Corey wrote:
> I don''t remember the exact error message, it was something like
> "unable to establish secure connection to ...".  I spent a lot of time
> digging into it and the simple fix was just to reboot the router which
> hadn't been done in months.  My router then was a cell phone with
> battery and charger so it was mostly always up.  It was affecting SSL
> connections to some web sites but not all.


As expected, rebooting my modem did not help - I still get the DKIM
error messages when I post to this list - I will just have to spend more
time on it yet again to try and work out why some sites are failing . .
it would be nice if there are some DKIM / DMARC / SPF gurus here who
could help me . .

Thanks,

Phil.



> On 8/2/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:
>> Alan,
>>
>>
>> On 2020-07-30 14:44, Alan Corey wrote:
>>> When was the last time you rebooted your router?  I've seen that
>>> solve
>>> weird things.
>>
>>
>> Just did that now before sending this reply . . but I bet I will get
>> this stupid DMARC / DKIM problem again . .
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
>>> On 7/30/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:
 Alan,


 On 2020-07-29 23:58, Alan Corey wrote:
> Could it be because you changed the subject line?  It wouldn't
> surprise me if something does a hash of the subject.  I don't know
> a
> lot about secure email with SSL and all that.


 I don't think so - posting this note also caused me to receive
 similar
 error messages - even though in both cases the email made it onto
 the
 list . . must be some sort of DKIM problem I think . .

 Thanks,

 Phil.


> On 7/29/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:
>> People,
>>
>> I tried to reply to my previous thread with a slightly modified
>> Subject:
>>
>>    SOLVED: Re: Anybody got Google Meet going on Linux (Fedora)
>> with
>> just
>> ALSA (ie not with PulseAudio)?
>>
>> and received a response:
>>
>> This is an authentication failure report for an email message
>> received
>> from pricom.com.au on Wed Jul 29 10:43:32 UTC 2020
>> Received-SPF: pass (domain of lists.sourceforge.net designates
>> 216.105.38.7 as permitted sender)
>> Authentication-Results: atlas201.free.mail.ir2.yahoo.com;
>>   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sourceforge.net header.s=x;
>>   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sf.net header.s=x;
>>   dkim=perm_fail header.i=@pricom.com.au header.s=phr1;
>>   spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lists.sourceforge.net;
>>   dmarc=success(p=NONE,sp=NONE) header.from=pricom.com.au;
>> .
>> .
>>
>> How can I fix this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Phil.
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>>
>> PO Box 896
>> Cowra  NSW  2794
>> Australia
>> E-mail:  p...@pricom.com.au
>>
>>
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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem with sending a reply to the list - previous replies were OK . .

2020-08-03 Thread Philip Rhoades

Alan,


On 2020-08-03 01:43, Alan Corey wrote:

I don''t remember the exact error message, it was something like
"unable to establish secure connection to ...".  I spent a lot of time
digging into it and the simple fix was just to reboot the router which
hadn't been done in months.  My router then was a cell phone with
battery and charger so it was mostly always up.  It was affecting SSL
connections to some web sites but not all.



As expected, rebooting my modem did not help - I still get the DKIM 
error messages when I post to this list - I will just have to spend more 
time on it yet again to try and work out why some sites are failing . . 
it would be nice if there are some DKIM / DMARC / SPF gurus here who 
could help me . .


Thanks,

Phil.




On 8/2/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

Alan,


On 2020-07-30 14:44, Alan Corey wrote:
When was the last time you rebooted your router?  I've seen that 
solve

weird things.



Just did that now before sending this reply . . but I bet I will get
this stupid DMARC / DKIM problem again . .

Thanks,

P.



On 7/30/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

Alan,


On 2020-07-29 23:58, Alan Corey wrote:

Could it be because you changed the subject line?  It wouldn't
surprise me if something does a hash of the subject.  I don't know 
a

lot about secure email with SSL and all that.



I don't think so - posting this note also caused me to receive 
similar
error messages - even though in both cases the email made it onto 
the

list . . must be some sort of DKIM problem I think . .

Thanks,

Phil.



On 7/29/20, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

People,

I tried to reply to my previous thread with a slightly modified
Subject:

   SOLVED: Re: Anybody got Google Meet going on Linux (Fedora) 
with

just
ALSA (ie not with PulseAudio)?

and received a response:

This is an authentication failure report for an email message
received
from pricom.com.au on Wed Jul 29 10:43:32 UTC 2020
Received-SPF: pass (domain of lists.sourceforge.net designates
216.105.38.7 as permitted sender)
Authentication-Results: atlas201.free.mail.ir2.yahoo.com;
  dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sourceforge.net header.s=x;
  dkim=perm_fail header.i=@sf.net header.s=x;
  dkim=perm_fail header.i=@pricom.com.au header.s=phr1;
  spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lists.sourceforge.net;
  dmarc=success(p=NONE,sp=NONE) header.from=pricom.com.au;
.
.

How can I fix this?

Thanks,

Phil.
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