Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-13 Thread chris hermansen 
Marve and list,

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM, marve  wrote:

> Chris, a.o.
>
> I have tried Ubuntu Studio and Fedora 24 Live CD. Both didn't find the
> optical S/PDIF connection.
>
I am afraid that I am out of suggestions.  Maybe someone else on the list
has an idea?

> BTW: I think we had a misunderstanding, as I noticed the Jack tools on
> Ubuntu Studio:
>
> I've been trying settings with HDAJackRetask, which is another kind of
> Jacks, i.e. to change hardware settings and connections of the sound chip
> and connectors (not the virtual sound system)!
>

Well that makes two things with "Jack" in the name that I know nothing
about!

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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-12 Thread marve 
Chris, a.o.

I have tried Ubuntu Studio and Fedora 24 Live CD. Both didn't find the
optical S/PDIF connection.

BTW: I think we had a misunderstanding, as I noticed the Jack tools on
Ubuntu Studio:

I've been trying settings with HDAJackRetask, which is another kind of
Jacks, i.e. to change hardware settings and connections of the sound
chip and connectors (not the virtual sound system)!

Best regards,
M.

On 10/09/2016 11:29 PM, marve wrote:
>
> Chris, a.o.
>
> Thanks again for your help and suggestions.
>
> I have connected the PC to another receiver. The S/P DIFF TOSLINK
> doesn't work on this system either, with 2 different optical cables. I
> was able to make the connection with HDMI, sound and video on this
> newer system.
>
> I have tried Live CDs and the newest Ubuntu / Mint didn't work.
>
> I also tried an older one to try the solution from the previous link,
> but I couldn't install gstreamer-properties. I'll try and make a life
> usb later!
>
> Regards,
> M.
>
> On 10/07/2016 10:48 PM, marve wrote:
>>
>> Chris, a.o.
>>
>> On 10/06/2016 11:55 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>> Marve and list,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:13 PM, marve >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris, a.o.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestions!
>>>
>>> On 10/05/2016 10:19 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>>
>>> [stuff deleted]
>>>
>>>
 Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy
 intermittent optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets. 
 Have you any other options to try?

>>> I'm not sure what you mean!
>>>
>>> I used to have windows 7 on my system, where the TOSLINK SPDIF
>>> worked well. A couple of weeks a go I checked my receiver with a
>>> playstation and this works, so the receiver isn't broken.
>>>
>>> At the moment I'm using the internal speakers of my Dell. There
>>> are HDMI outputs on the Dell, but my receiver hasn't got any of
>>> that. Only optical and coaxial SPDIF (my computer only has the
>>> optical).
>>>
>>>
>>> Marve, what I mean here is have you tried other configurations that
>>> do work, to isolate for certain that the problem is the Dell + Mint?
>>>
>>> For instance, you say "a couple of weeks ago I checked my receiver
>>> with a playstation".  You should check it again.
>>>
>>> Also, you should try a different TOSLINK connector that is (very
>>> recently) known good, ideally the one you just used to check your
>>> playstation.
>>>
>> Yes, it was one of the trouble shoot steps I toke, connecting my PS3
>> to the receiver. I actually used the same optical cable and it worked!
>>
>>> Finally it would be good to try your Dell optical connected to a
>>> different receiver.
>> I'll see if I can do this in the near future!
>>>
>>>
 Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation
 change?
>>> This is kind of annoying! When I open Pulse Audio Volume Control
>>> I can select the Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (Configuration)
>>> and the Digital Output S/PDIF (Output Device). Then, when I
>>> "send audio" for example, the volume meter on the Pulse Audio
>>> windows starts dancing, but there is no sound coming from the
>>> speakers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you see anything odd in syslog / with dmesg?  Any error messages
>>> when you start to try to play something?
>>>
>> When I switch between Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output and Analog
>> Stereo Duplex there are some rtkit-daemon messages, but no errors.
>>> Did you run alsa-info.sh and share with this list (sorry I forget)?
>>
>> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0f9430c56d6bee148b61b93f9f5cab744e96f3a0
>>
>>> Have you tried using aplay with the appropriate device?
>>>  
>>> Seeing as you have Jack, Pulse and (I guess ALSA) installed... Not
>>> knowing anything about Jack, have you tried booting from a live CD
>>> to see if sound works without Jack?
>>>
>> I'll try this too!
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> M.
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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-09 Thread marve 
Chris, a.o.

Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

I have connected the PC to another receiver. The S/P DIFF TOSLINK
doesn't work on this system either, with 2 different optical cables. I
was able to make the connection with HDMI, sound and video on this newer
system.

I have tried Live CDs and the newest Ubuntu / Mint didn't work.

I also tried an older one to try the solution from the previous link,
but I couldn't install gstreamer-properties. I'll try and make a life
usb later!

Regards,
M.

On 10/07/2016 10:48 PM, marve wrote:
>
> Chris, a.o.
>
> On 10/06/2016 11:55 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>> Marve and list,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:13 PM, marve > > wrote:
>>
>> Chris, a.o.
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions!
>>
>> On 10/05/2016 10:19 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>
>> [stuff deleted]
>>
>>
>>> Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy
>>> intermittent optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets. 
>>> Have you any other options to try?
>>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean!
>>
>> I used to have windows 7 on my system, where the TOSLINK SPDIF
>> worked well. A couple of weeks a go I checked my receiver with a
>> playstation and this works, so the receiver isn't broken.
>>
>> At the moment I'm using the internal speakers of my Dell. There
>> are HDMI outputs on the Dell, but my receiver hasn't got any of
>> that. Only optical and coaxial SPDIF (my computer only has the
>> optical).
>>
>>
>> Marve, what I mean here is have you tried other configurations that
>> do work, to isolate for certain that the problem is the Dell + Mint?
>>
>> For instance, you say "a couple of weeks ago I checked my receiver
>> with a playstation".  You should check it again.
>>
>> Also, you should try a different TOSLINK connector that is (very
>> recently) known good, ideally the one you just used to check your
>> playstation.
>>
> Yes, it was one of the trouble shoot steps I toke, connecting my PS3
> to the receiver. I actually used the same optical cable and it worked!
>
>> Finally it would be good to try your Dell optical connected to a
>> different receiver.
> I'll see if I can do this in the near future!
>>
>>
>>> Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation change?
>> This is kind of annoying! When I open Pulse Audio Volume Control
>> I can select the Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (Configuration)
>> and the Digital Output S/PDIF (Output Device). Then, when I "send
>> audio" for example, the volume meter on the Pulse Audio windows
>> starts dancing, but there is no sound coming from the speakers!
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you see anything odd in syslog / with dmesg?  Any error messages
>> when you start to try to play something?
>>
> When I switch between Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output and Analog Stereo
> Duplex there are some rtkit-daemon messages, but no errors.
>> Did you run alsa-info.sh and share with this list (sorry I forget)?
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0f9430c56d6bee148b61b93f9f5cab744e96f3a0
>
>> Have you tried using aplay with the appropriate device?
>>  
>> Seeing as you have Jack, Pulse and (I guess ALSA) installed... Not
>> knowing anything about Jack, have you tried booting from a live CD to
>> see if sound works without Jack?
>>
> I'll try this too!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> M.
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>>
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>
>
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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-07 Thread marve 
Chris, a.o.

On 10/06/2016 11:55 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
> Marve and list,
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:13 PM, marve  > wrote:
>
> Chris, a.o.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions!
>
> On 10/05/2016 10:19 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>
> [stuff deleted]
>
>
>> Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy
>> intermittent optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets. 
>> Have you any other options to try?
>>
> I'm not sure what you mean!
>
> I used to have windows 7 on my system, where the TOSLINK SPDIF
> worked well. A couple of weeks a go I checked my receiver with a
> playstation and this works, so the receiver isn't broken.
>
> At the moment I'm using the internal speakers of my Dell. There
> are HDMI outputs on the Dell, but my receiver hasn't got any of
> that. Only optical and coaxial SPDIF (my computer only has the
> optical).
>
>
> Marve, what I mean here is have you tried other configurations that do
> work, to isolate for certain that the problem is the Dell + Mint?
>
> For instance, you say "a couple of weeks ago I checked my receiver
> with a playstation".  You should check it again.
>
> Also, you should try a different TOSLINK connector that is (very
> recently) known good, ideally the one you just used to check your
> playstation.
>
Yes, it was one of the trouble shoot steps I toke, connecting my PS3 to
the receiver. I actually used the same optical cable and it worked!

> Finally it would be good to try your Dell optical connected to a
> different receiver.
I'll see if I can do this in the near future!
>
>
>> Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation change?
> This is kind of annoying! When I open Pulse Audio Volume Control I
> can select the Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (Configuration) and
> the Digital Output S/PDIF (Output Device). Then, when I "send
> audio" for example, the volume meter on the Pulse Audio windows
> starts dancing, but there is no sound coming from the speakers!
>
>
>
> Do you see anything odd in syslog / with dmesg?  Any error messages
> when you start to try to play something?
>
When I switch between Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output and Analog Stereo
Duplex there are some rtkit-daemon messages, but no errors.
> Did you run alsa-info.sh and share with this list (sorry I forget)?

http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0f9430c56d6bee148b61b93f9f5cab744e96f3a0

> Have you tried using aplay with the appropriate device?
>  
> Seeing as you have Jack, Pulse and (I guess ALSA) installed... Not
> knowing anything about Jack, have you tried booting from a live CD to
> see if sound works without Jack?
>
I'll try this too!

Thanks again!

M.
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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-06 Thread chris hermansen 
Marve and list,

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:13 PM, marve  wrote:

> Chris, a.o.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions!
>
> On 10/05/2016 10:19 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>
>
> [stuff deleted]

>
> Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy intermittent
> optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets.  Have you any other options
> to try?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean!
>
> I used to have windows 7 on my system, where the TOSLINK SPDIF worked
> well. A couple of weeks a go I checked my receiver with a playstation and
> this works, so the receiver isn't broken.
>
> At the moment I'm using the internal speakers of my Dell. There are HDMI
> outputs on the Dell, but my receiver hasn't got any of that. Only optical
> and coaxial SPDIF (my computer only has the optical).
>

Marve, what I mean here is have you tried other configurations that do
work, to isolate for certain that the problem is the Dell + Mint?

For instance, you say "a couple of weeks ago I checked my receiver with a
playstation".  You should check it again.

Also, you should try a different TOSLINK connector that is (very recently)
known good, ideally the one you just used to check your playstation.

Finally it would be good to try your Dell optical connected to a different
receiver.

>
> Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation change?
>
> This is kind of annoying! When I open Pulse Audio Volume Control I can
> select the Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (Configuration) and the Digital
> Output S/PDIF (Output Device). Then, when I "send audio" for example, the
> volume meter on the Pulse Audio windows starts dancing, but there is no
> sound coming from the speakers!
>


Do you see anything odd in syslog / with dmesg?  Any error messages when
you start to try to play something?

Did you run alsa-info.sh and share with this list (sorry I forget)?

Have you tried using aplay with the appropriate device?

Seeing as you have Jack, Pulse and (I guess ALSA) installed... Not knowing
anything about Jack, have you tried booting from a live CD to see if sound
works without Jack?


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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-06 Thread marve 
Chris, a.o.

Thanks for your suggestions!

On 10/05/2016 10:19 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
> Marve and list,
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:59 AM, marve  > wrote:
>
> Some additional info, my Jack Retask settings:
>
> It seems that with Pin ID: 0x1e there is some response and this is the
> only pin that has SPDIF options. It detects 'Not Connected'
>
> The settings are:
>
> Connectivity: Internal
> Location: Rear
> Device: SPDIF Out
> Jack: Optical
> Color: Black
> Jack Detection: Present
> Channel group: 8 ( I have tried them all)
> Channel (in group): Back
>
> Anyone suggestions I could try?
>
>
> You are using Jack and it's safe to say I don't know jack about
> that... but a few things I can think of.
>
> First, the setting "Channel (in group): Back" - that doesn't seem to
> be a useful setting.  Wouldn't you want "Front" instead?
>
Yes, I have tried this (it actually was the default setting) and it
doesn't make a difference.

> Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy
> intermittent optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets.  Have you
> any other options to try?
>
I'm not sure what you mean!

I used to have windows 7 on my system, where the TOSLINK SPDIF worked
well. A couple of weeks a go I checked my receiver with a playstation
and this works, so the receiver isn't broken.

At the moment I'm using the internal speakers of my Dell. There are HDMI
outputs on the Dell, but my receiver hasn't got any of that. Only
optical and coaxial SPDIF (my computer only has the optical).

> Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation change?
This is kind of annoying! When I open Pulse Audio Volume Control I can
select the Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output (Configuration) and the
Digital Output S/PDIF (Output Device). Then, when I "send audio" for
example, the volume meter on the Pulse Audio windows starts dancing, but
there is no sound coming from the speakers!

> Fourth, this is interesting though it talks about Pulse and Alsa
> interactions and not Jack. 
> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/628
>
I can't seem to find the gstreamer-properties in any package (no
suggestion with apt). I think I have tried this on a older Mint
distribution.
> Fifth, this might be worth a look
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Getting_S.2FPDIF_output
I have tried this too!
>
> Sixth, Dell did (does?) sell some XPS machines with Linux; does Dell
> have any drivers for this?
>
Yes, well, I don't think Dell has device software. There is a driver
from the chip manufacturer, which I tried to install manually. I think
this is incorporated in alsa already.

> That's it for me.
>
Thanks for answering, have a good one!

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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-05 Thread chris hermansen 
Marve and list,

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:59 AM, marve  wrote:

> Some additional info, my Jack Retask settings:
>
> It seems that with Pin ID: 0x1e there is some response and this is the
> only pin that has SPDIF options. It detects 'Not Connected'
>
> The settings are:
>
> Connectivity: Internal
> Location: Rear
> Device: SPDIF Out
> Jack: Optical
> Color: Black
> Jack Detection: Present
> Channel group: 8 ( I have tried them all)
> Channel (in group): Back
>
> Anyone suggestions I could try?
>

You are using Jack and it's safe to say I don't know jack about that... but
a few things I can think of.

First, the setting "Channel (in group): Back" - that doesn't seem to be a
useful setting.  Wouldn't you want "Front" instead?

Second, I have spent endless hours futzing around with crappy intermittent
optical connectors and poorly-designed sockets.  Have you any other options
to try?

Third, when you send audio to the device, does the situation change?

Fourth, this is interesting though it talks about Pulse and Alsa
interactions and not Jack.
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/628

Fifth, this might be worth a look
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Getting_S.2FPDIF_output

Sixth, Dell did (does?) sell some XPS machines with Linux; does Dell have
any drivers for this?

That's it for me.


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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-10-05 Thread marve 
Some additional info, my Jack Retask settings:

It seems that with Pin ID: 0x1e there is some response and this is the
only pin that has SPDIF options. It detects 'Not Connected'

The settings are:

Connectivity: Internal
Location: Rear
Device: SPDIF Out
Jack: Optical
Color: Black
Jack Detection: Present
Channel group: 8 ( I have tried them all)
Channel (in group): Back

Anyone suggestions I could try?

Regards,
M

On 08/31/2016 09:35 PM, marve wrote:
> Should I provide more information? Am I at the right place to ask this
> kind of a question?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 08/23/2016 09:35 PM, marve wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I was hoping for better with the new Alsa software, Linux kernel and
>> Ubuntu / mint upgrade, but I can't seem to get sound of my Toslink
>> connected SPDIF receiver.
>>
>> My Dell XPS One 2710 had a digital optical output. It works with another
>> OS and the receiver works with another DTS output device.
>>
>> I have tried several thinks with help from someone on IRC, but nothing
>> did the trick. Internal speakers do work, by the way!
>>
>> I have enabled the SPDIF out in On ID: 0x1e with the Jack Retasking
>> tool, but it still outputs Not Connected.
>>
>> In the Pulse Audio Volume control app, when I select "Digital Stereo
>> (IEC958) Output + Analog Stereo Input" with Configuration and "Digital
>> Output (S/PDIF)" on Output device, I do see the volume meters reacting
>> on the audio I'm playing, but nothing on the receiver. Those two options
>> appear after enablig ID 0x1e.
>>
>> FYI :
>> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=556ae2bdae66341579831231ef2d90ca0d7c8e24
>>
>>
>> Anyone a nice suggestion? Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> M.
>>
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Re: [Alsa-user] ALS275Q / ALC3260 HDA Intel PCH No Toslink S/PDIF Audio Out

2016-08-31 Thread marve 
Should I provide more information? Am I at the right place to ask this
kind of a question?

Thanks!

On 08/23/2016 09:35 PM, marve wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I was hoping for better with the new Alsa software, Linux kernel and
> Ubuntu / mint upgrade, but I can't seem to get sound of my Toslink
> connected SPDIF receiver.
>
> My Dell XPS One 2710 had a digital optical output. It works with another
> OS and the receiver works with another DTS output device.
>
> I have tried several thinks with help from someone on IRC, but nothing
> did the trick. Internal speakers do work, by the way!
>
> I have enabled the SPDIF out in On ID: 0x1e with the Jack Retasking
> tool, but it still outputs Not Connected.
>
> In the Pulse Audio Volume control app, when I select "Digital Stereo
> (IEC958) Output + Analog Stereo Input" with Configuration and "Digital
> Output (S/PDIF)" on Output device, I do see the volume meters reacting
> on the audio I'm playing, but nothing on the receiver. Those two options
> appear after enablig ID 0x1e.
>
> FYI :
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=556ae2bdae66341579831231ef2d90ca0d7c8e24
>
>
> Anyone a nice suggestion? Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
>
> M.
>
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