Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-22 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 6/21/21 11:19 PM, Dekks Herton wrote:
> Hi Randy
> 
> Have you tried using alsactl to configure d2vices rather than yast?

No, I haven't, but like Takashi said, it works without doing yast
config.

Thanks.



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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-21 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 6/21/21 1:03 PM, Dekks Herton wrote:
> Randy Dunlap  writes:
> 
>> On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
>>> Randy Dunlap wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
 laptop.

 lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:

 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller 
 (rev 0b)
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 
 04)


 I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.

 Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
 When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
 the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
 I have left it running overnight 2 times.

 Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
 Any other suggestions or clues?

 The also-info.sh output is attached.
>>> (snip)
 !!Loaded ALSA modules
 !!---

 snd_pcsp
 snd_hda_intel
 snd_hda_intel
>>>
>>> Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
>>> all.
>>
>> OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
>> The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
>> kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
>> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
>> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> alsa-info.sh now reports:
>>
>> !!Loaded ALSA modules
>> !!---
>>
>> snd_hda_intel
>> snd_hda_intel
>>
>>
>> What else can I try, please?
>>
>> thanks.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Does the SUSE kernel support the Intel catpt Haswell/Broadwell driver
> rewrite as i've just gone through Debian bullseye breaking the sound on my
> Thinkpad Helix 2nd gen from Buster/4.19 to Bullseye/5.10. Bullseye now
> builds the catpt support and broadwell-U audio works fine.

Yes, any kernel 5.10 or later should support the rewrite AFAIK.


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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-21 Thread Dekks Herton
Randy Dunlap  writes:

> On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
>> Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>> lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:
>>>
>>> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller 
>>> (rev 0b)
>>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 
>>> 04)
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
>>> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
>>> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>> although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.
>>>
>>> Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
>>> When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
>>> the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
>>> I have left it running overnight 2 times.
>>>
>>> Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
>>> Any other suggestions or clues?
>>>
>>> The also-info.sh output is attached.
>> (snip)
>>> !!Loaded ALSA modules
>>> !!---
>>>
>>> snd_pcsp
>>> snd_hda_intel
>>> snd_hda_intel
>> 
>> Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
>> all.
>
> OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
> The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
> kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> alsa-info.sh now reports:
>
> !!Loaded ALSA modules
> !!---
>
> snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_intel
>
>
> What else can I try, please?
>
> thanks.

Hi All,

Does the SUSE kernel support the Intel catpt Haswell/Broadwell driver
rewrite as i've just gone through Debian bullseye breaking the sound on my
Thinkpad Helix 2nd gen from Buster/4.19 to Bullseye/5.10. Bullseye now
builds the catpt support and broadwell-U audio works fine.

Regards



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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-21 Thread Takashi Iwai
On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:53:03 +0200,
Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
> On 6/20/21 11:26 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:51:30 +0200,
> > Randy Dunlap wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
> >>> Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
>  laptop.
> 
>  lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:
> 
>  00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller 
>  (rev 0b)
>  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller 
>  (rev 04)
> 
> 
>  I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
>  5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
>  x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>  although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.
> 
>  Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
>  When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
>  the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
>  I have left it running overnight 2 times.
> 
>  Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
>  Any other suggestions or clues?
> 
>  The also-info.sh output is attached.
> >>> (snip)
>  !!Loaded ALSA modules
>  !!---
> 
>  snd_pcsp
>  snd_hda_intel
>  snd_hda_intel
> >>>
> >>> Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
> >>> all.
> >>
> >> OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
> >> The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
> >> kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
> >> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
> >> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >>
> >> alsa-info.sh now reports:
> >>
> >> !!Loaded ALSA modules
> >> !!---
> >>
> >> snd_hda_intel
> >> snd_hda_intel
> >>
> >>
> >> What else can I try, please?
> > 
> > Do you see any other problem except for YaST2 sound module?
> > yast2 sound configuration shouldn't be used any longer unless you
> > really have to use it.
> 
> So how do sound cards get configured?

Modern chips should work without extra static configuration.
The drivers are loaded via udev, and the mixers are initialized by the
sound backend like PulseAudio itself.


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-21 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 6/20/21 11:26 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:51:30 +0200,
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>
>> On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
>>> Randy Dunlap wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
 laptop.

 lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:

 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller 
 (rev 0b)
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 
 04)


 I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.

 Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
 When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
 the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
 I have left it running overnight 2 times.

 Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
 Any other suggestions or clues?

 The also-info.sh output is attached.
>>> (snip)
 !!Loaded ALSA modules
 !!---

 snd_pcsp
 snd_hda_intel
 snd_hda_intel
>>>
>>> Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
>>> all.
>>
>> OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
>> The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
>> kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
>> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
>> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> alsa-info.sh now reports:
>>
>> !!Loaded ALSA modules
>> !!---
>>
>> snd_hda_intel
>> snd_hda_intel
>>
>>
>> What else can I try, please?
> 
> Do you see any other problem except for YaST2 sound module?
> yast2 sound configuration shouldn't be used any longer unless you
> really have to use it.

So how do sound cards get configured?

> yast2 sound module tries to unload and reload the sound kernel modules
> but maybe it's been blocked (e.g. the pulseaudio or something else
> gets re-spawned after kill).  It should have some timeout.
> 
> In anyway, please report on openSUSE Bugzilla.  It doesn't sound like
> a kernel problem as far as I see the logs.

OK.

> (Oh BTW, there is a message about the missing Realtek firmware; did
> you install kernel-firmware-all package?)

Hm, no, I missed that message. Thanks for pointing it out.
I'll fix that.



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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-21 Thread Takashi Iwai
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:51:30 +0200,
Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
> On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
> > Randy Dunlap wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
> >> laptop.
> >>
> >> lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:
> >>
> >> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller 
> >> (rev 0b)
> >> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 
> >> 04)
> >>
> >>
> >> I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
> >> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
> >> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >> although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.
> >>
> >> Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
> >> When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
> >> the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
> >> I have left it running overnight 2 times.
> >>
> >> Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
> >> Any other suggestions or clues?
> >>
> >> The also-info.sh output is attached.
> > (snip)
> >> !!Loaded ALSA modules
> >> !!---
> >>
> >> snd_pcsp
> >> snd_hda_intel
> >> snd_hda_intel
> > 
> > Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
> > all.
> 
> OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
> The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
> kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> alsa-info.sh now reports:
> 
> !!Loaded ALSA modules
> !!---
> 
> snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_intel
> 
> 
> What else can I try, please?

Do you see any other problem except for YaST2 sound module?
yast2 sound configuration shouldn't be used any longer unless you
really have to use it.

yast2 sound module tries to unload and reload the sound kernel modules
but maybe it's been blocked (e.g. the pulseaudio or something else
gets re-spawned after kill).  It should have some timeout.

In anyway, please report on openSUSE Bugzilla.  It doesn't sound like
a kernel problem as far as I see the logs.

(Oh BTW, there is a message about the missing Realtek firmware; did
you install kernel-firmware-all package?)


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-20 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 6/19/21 11:41 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
>> laptop.
>>
>> lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:
>>
>> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 
>> 0b)
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
>>
>>
>> I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
>> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
>> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.
>>
>> Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
>> When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
>> the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
>> I have left it running overnight 2 times.
>>
>> Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
>> Any other suggestions or clues?
>>
>> The also-info.sh output is attached.
> (snip)
>> !!Loaded ALSA modules
>> !!---
>>
>> snd_pcsp
>> snd_hda_intel
>> snd_hda_intel
> 
> Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
> all.

OK, CONFIG_SND_PCSP is no longer set. The kernel has been rebuilt.
The problem with sound card configuration remains, with either of
kernel 5.12.10 or openSUSE 15.3:
5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux

alsa-info.sh now reports:

!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!---

snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_intel


What else can I try, please?

thanks.
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Re: [Alsa-user] Haswell audio issues

2021-06-20 Thread Takashi Iwai
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:08:21 +0200,
Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to use ALSA sound on a lowly Intel core i5 Haswell HP-brand 
> laptop.
> 
> lspci tells me that there are 2 audio devices:
> 
> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 
> 0b)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
> 
> 
> I am using openSUSE 15.3 and kernel
> 5.3.18-59.5-default #1 SMP Wed Jun 2 08:21:36 UTC 2021 (eaf040d) x86_64 
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> although I have also built a v5.12.10 kernel that has the same issues.
> 
> Using yast2 Sound, I cannot configure either of the 2 audio devices.
> When I try to configure one of them (using Quick or Normal setup),
> the mouse/timer icon just spins forever -- until I power off the laptop.
> I have left it running overnight 2 times.
> 
> Do I possibly need some quirk that has not yet been implemented?
> Any other suggestions or clues?
> 
> The also-info.sh output is attached.
(snip)
> !!Loaded ALSA modules
> !!---
> 
> snd_pcsp
> snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_intel

Is it intentional to load snd-pcsp here?  This shouldn't be used at
all.


Takashi


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