Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-15 Thread Nathan Dehnel
Yes, it seems like it.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 3:17 AM  wrote:
>
> So, is it working now ?
>
>
> On 2020-07-15 03:05, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> > Jack starts with jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic_1
> > [HD-Audio Generic] -r441
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-15 Thread liebrecht

So, is it working now ?


On 2020-07-15 03:05, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Jack starts with jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic_1
[HD-Audio Generic] -r441

Thank you.




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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-15 Thread Nathan Dehnel
Jack starts with jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic_1
[HD-Audio Generic] -r441

Thank you.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:01 AM  wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-14 03:29, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> > Ok. Here is the output:
> >
>
> CORRECTION:
>
> cp  .asoundrc .asoundrc.bak(note the hidden file "dot" "." preceding
> the file.)
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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-14 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-14 03:29, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Ok. Here is the output:



CORRECTION:

cp  .asoundrc .asoundrc.bak(note the hidden file "dot" "." preceding 
the file.)



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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-14 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-14 03:29, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Ok. Here is the output:



To add to my last request for info:


Try the following.
 cp  .asoundrc .asoundrc.bak(not the hidden file "dot" "." preceding 
the file.

make sure that .asoundrc.bak  was created.

Reboot. Sorry to ask that but I want to make sure alsa starts from 
scratch as I cannot remember right now  how to restart the alsa sound 
system with sysctl etc.


Start alsamixer, see if tghe default device etc is available and check 
with F5 if all the inputs and outputs show.


Try the jack string again.
If this solves your problem, then leave it so.

If not, then copy back .asoundrc
.bak to .asoundrc in your user account

BTW this is clearly not a jack problem . Jack works. It seems to be a 
driver problem if the above doesnt work. So the problem must be between 
alsa and the kernel module for the sound card you use.


But, try the above first. Sometimes it solves the problem.


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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-14 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-14 03:29, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Ok. Here is the output:



Start alsamixer, Then press F6,  write down the devices that is listed 
there and report them back to me.

They should be the same as aplay-l
In alsamixer select interface that you used in the jackd string.
then do F5
Do you see inputs and outputs ?
If not the interface was recognized but probably incorrectly.
Cycle through with F6 F5 untill one of the options gives you inputs and 
outputs with F5.


then use aplay -l at cli to find the moniker you have to add to the 
jackd string and try the jackd string again.


Remember you need to start the jackd string I gave you from user account 
not root.

I am not sure where you started it from.

A succesfull jackd string has output as follows.


:~$ /usr/bin/jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:UMC1820 -r441
jackdmp 1.9.12
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.
Copyright 2016-2018 Filipe Coelho.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 80
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio1
creating alsa driver ... 
hw:UMC1820|hw:UMC1820|1024|2|441|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 441Hz, period = 1024 frames (2322.0 ms), buffer = 2 
periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer 
little-endian

ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 24bit little-endian in 
3bytes format

ALSA: use 2 periods for playback


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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-14 Thread Nathan Dehnel
Ok. Here is the output:

bash-5.0$ pulseaudio -k
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
bash-5.0$ killall -KILL jackd
jackd: no process found
bash-5.0$ jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic -r441
jackd 0.125.0
Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben
Hohn and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details

JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 441
creating alsa driver ...
hw:Generic|hw:Generic|1024|2|441|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to
capture-only mode
cannot load driver module alsa


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:16 AM  wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-10 01:10, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> >> Do you use pulseaudio ?
> > Yes. I have tried using module-jack and also disabling it, but neither
> > work.
> >
> >> /usr/bin/jackd
>
> I have never found any use for jack2 in the most demanding tasks. the
> same advice would be given to you on the jack users group and years ago
> in fact it was the advice I got and it proved accurate.
>
> Install jackd
>
> I cannot help without jackd
>
>
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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-10 01:10, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Do you use pulseaudio ?
Yes. I have tried using module-jack and also disabling it, but neither 
work.



/usr/bin/jackd


I have never found any use for jack2 in the most demanding tasks. the 
same advice would be given to you on the jack users group and years ago 
in fact it was the advice I got and it proved accurate.


Install jackd

I cannot help without jackd




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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread Nathan Dehnel
>Do you use pulseaudio ?
Yes. I have tried using module-jack and also disabling it, but neither work.

>/usr/bin/jackd
This file is not on my system. These are the executables installed by
the jack2 package:
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  48640 Dec 31  1969 alsa_in
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  48512 Dec 31  1969 alsa_out
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16832 Dec 31  1969 jack_alias
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17392 Dec 31  1969 jack_bufsize
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17664 Dec 31  1969 jack_connect
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root398 Dec 31  1969 jack_control
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17992 Dec 31  1969 jack_cpu
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16848 Dec 31  1969 jack_cpu_load
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root 137104 Dec 31  1969 jackdbus
lrwxrwxrwx 3 root root 12 Dec 31  1969 jack_disconnect -> jack_connect
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17456 Dec 31  1969 jack_evmon
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16824 Dec 31  1969 jack_freewheel
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17928 Dec 31  1969 jack_iodelay
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17744 Dec 31  1969 jack_latent_client
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17864 Dec 31  1969 jack_load
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  22160 Dec 31  1969 jack_lsp
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  18088 Dec 31  1969 jack_metro
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  22520 Dec 31  1969 jack_midi_dump
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  33848 Dec 31  1969 jack_midi_latency_test
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17368 Dec 31  1969 jack_midiseq
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17544 Dec 31  1969 jack_midisine
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16632 Dec 31  1969 jack_monitor_client
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  18528 Dec 31  1969 jack_multiple_metro
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17304 Dec 31  1969 jack_net_master
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17240 Dec 31  1969 jack_net_slave
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  47712 Dec 31  1969 jack_netsource
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  21680 Dec 31  1969 jack_property
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  23152 Dec 31  1969 jack_rec
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16896 Dec 31  1969 jack_samplerate
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  18328 Dec 31  1969 jack_server_control
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  18040 Dec 31  1969 jack_session_notify
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16960 Dec 31  1969 jack_showtime
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  34136 Dec 31  1969 jack_simdtests
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17376 Dec 31  1969 jack_simple_client
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17704 Dec 31  1969 jack_simple_session_client
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  65752 Dec 31  1969 jack_test
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17488 Dec 31  1969 jack_thru
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  23544 Dec 31  1969 jack_transport
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16680 Dec 31  1969 jack_unload
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  17040 Dec 31  1969 jack_wait
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root root  16976 Dec 31  1969 jack_zombie

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:29 PM  wrote:
>
> Pleazse ignore my previous reply. It contains an error which is
> corrected here:
>
> On 2020-07-09 22:30, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> >> Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with
> > Jack ?
> > I don't care which.
>
>
> Do you use pulseaudio ?
>
> Regardless;
>
> Here is something you can do to try and make jack work with alsa
>
> !) Close qjackctl, as it doesnt work for you. I avoid it like the
> plague. It helps me none and just causes problems.
>
> 2) execute the following in a user terminal
>
> $] pulseaudio -k
> $] killall -KILL jackd
> $]  /usr/bin/jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic -r441
>
> Post the complete terminal output from the last /usr/bin/jackd command
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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread liebrecht
Pleazse ignore my previous reply. It contains an error which is 
corrected here:


On 2020-07-09 22:30, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with

Jack ?
I don't care which.



Do you use pulseaudio ?

Regardless;

Here is something you can do to try and make jack work with alsa

!) Close qjackctl, as it doesnt work for you. I avoid it like the 
plague. It helps me none and just causes problems.


2) execute the following in a user terminal

$] pulseaudio -k
$] killall -KILL jackd
$]  /usr/bin/jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic -r441

Post the complete terminal output from the last /usr/bin/jackd command




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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-09 22:30, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with

Jack ?
I don't care which.

I rely heavily on Jack and run complex routes and cannot live without

it, but I must ask why you want to use jack? Do you really need it ?
I need to run LV2 plugins.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:29 PM  wrote:


On 2020-07-09 21:03, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> I had this issue with qjackctl and was referred here
> https://github.com/rncbc/qjackctl/issues/96
>
> bash-5.0$ uname -a
> Linux guixlaptop 5.4.50 #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with
Jack ?
I rely heavily on Jack and run complex routes and cannot live without
it, but I must ask why you want to use jack? Do you really need it ?




Do you use pulseaudio ?

Regardless;

Here is something you can do to try and make jack work with alsa

!) Close qjackctl, as it doesnt work for you. I avoid it like the 
plague. It helps me none and just causes problems.


2) execute the following in a user terminal

$] pulseaudio -k
$] killall -KILL jackd
$]  /usr/bin/jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:Generic -r441

Post the complete terminal output from the last /usr/bin/jackd command




/usr/bin/jackd --sync -P80 -ndefault -dalsa -dhw:UMC1820 -r441


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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread Nathan Dehnel
>Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with
Jack ?
I don't care which.
>I rely heavily on Jack and run complex routes and cannot live without
it, but I must ask why you want to use jack? Do you really need it ?
I need to run LV2 plugins.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:29 PM  wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-09 21:03, Nathan Dehnel wrote:
> > I had this issue with qjackctl and was referred here
> > https://github.com/rncbc/qjackctl/issues/96
> >
> > bash-5.0$ uname -a
> > Linux guixlaptop 5.4.50 #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with
> Jack ?
> I rely heavily on Jack and run complex routes and cannot live without
> it, but I must ask why you want to use jack? Do you really need it ?
>


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Re: [Alsa-user] Issue starting JACK

2020-07-09 Thread liebrecht

On 2020-07-09 21:03, Nathan Dehnel wrote:

I had this issue with qjackctl and was referred here
https://github.com/rncbc/qjackctl/issues/96

bash-5.0$ uname -a
Linux guixlaptop 5.4.50 #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Which of the cards Generic or Generic1 do you want to connect to with 
Jack ?
I rely heavily on Jack and run complex routes and cannot live without 
it, but I must ask why you want to use jack? Do you really need it ?




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