Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes(Internet mail)

2021-03-12 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
on the values of Qi? Thanks, Sabine From: chunshxiong(熊春山) Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 7:38 AM To: Y. Richard Yang ; Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; Qin Wu ; IETF ALTO Subject: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-12 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
To: Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) Cc: Qin Wu ; IETF ALTO ; alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes Hi Sabine, Qin, Good discussions. I support the use cases of the design direction. One suggestion

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes(Internet mail)

2021-03-11 Thread 熊春山
021 5:29 AM To: Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; Qin Wu ; IETF ALTO Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes(Internet mail) Hi Sabine, Qin, Good discussions. I support the use cases of

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-11 Thread 刘鹏
: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi Peng, all, Thanks a lot for the excellent discussions. It is clear that multi-domain is a major issue to resolve, as multidomain is the general deployment setting where resource consumers and providers are in the general case deployed

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Y. Richard Yang
inary design with example > IRD and ALTO request and response can be found in slides 7 and 8. > > > > Any feedback is more than welcome, > > (1) > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/materials/slides-109-alto-proposed-recharter-item-general-alto-protocol-extensions-00 > &

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
ilto:alto-cha...@ietf.org>; alto-...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-...@ietf.org> Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is arranged on Friday, March 12, 14:30-15:30(UTC). The goal is to boil down A

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Qin Wu
o: IETF ALTO mailto:alto@ietf.org>> Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-cha...@ietf.org>; alto-...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-...@ietf.org> Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
m: alto mailto:alto-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Qin Wu Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:51 PM To: IETF ALTO mailto:alto@ietf.org>> Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-cha...@ietf.org>; alto-...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-...@ietf.org> Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Qin Wu
gt; Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-cha...@ietf.org>; alto-...@ietf.org<mailto:alto-...@ietf.org> Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is arranged on Friday, March 12, 14

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-10 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
.@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is arranged on Friday, March 12, 14:30-15:30(UTC). The goal is to boil down ALTO recharter and have consensus on charter contents i

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-10 Thread Qiao Xiang
ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/9155486) >> >> Above are our current efforts on extending ALTO to multi-domain settings. >> It would be great if we can know more about the industry efforts on network >> information exposure in multi-domain settings, and the privacy requirements >

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review(Internet mail)

2021-03-10 Thread 熊春山
:03 PM To: Li Gang ; kai...@scu.edu.cn Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; 'IETF ALTO' Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review(Internet mail) Thanks for your clarification, I think 1080p and 720p are resolution, corresponding to HD, SD video, or 4.5Mbit/s, 2.5 Mbit/s bit rate

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-09 Thread Y. Richard Yang
PM 刘鹏 wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Thank you. please see my reply inline below. >> >> >> Peng Liu | 刘鹏 >> China Mobile | 移动研究院 >> mobile phone:13810146105 >> email: * liupeng...@chinamobile.com * >> >> >> 发件人: Y. Richard Y

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-08 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, Kai: 发件人: alto [mailto:alto-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 kai...@scu.edu.cn 发送时间: 2021年3月8日 17:44 收件人: Qin Wu 抄送: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; 'IETF ALTO' 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi Gang and Qin, I am also interested in the details of the use case. Like I

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-08 Thread kaigao
can clarify this in the use case. Best, Kai -Original Messages- From:"Qin Wu" Sent Time:2021-03-08 10:51:31 (Monday) To: "Li Gang" , "kai...@scu.edu.cn" Cc: "alto-cha...@ietf.org" , "alto-...@ietf.org" , "'IETF ALTO'" Su

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Qin Wu
:42 收件人: Qin Wu ; kai...@scu.edu.cn 抄送: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; 'IETF ALTO' 主题: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, Qin, Please see my reply inline. Li Gang From: Qin Wu [mailto:bill...@huawei.com] Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 10:52 AM To: Li Gang; kai...@scu.edu.cn

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Jensen Zhang
; > *发件人:* Jensen Zhang [mailto:jingxuan.n.zh...@gmail.com] > *发送时间:* 2021年3月5日 10:26 > *收件人:* Qiao Xiang > *抄送:* Qin Wu ; 刘鹏 ; IETF > ALTO > *主题:* Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review > > > > Hi Qin and Qiao, > > Please see my comments inline. > > >

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Li Gang
Hi, Qin, Please see my reply inline. Li Gang From: Qin Wu [mailto:bill...@huawei.com] Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 10:52 AM To: Li Gang; kai...@scu.edu.cn Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; 'IETF ALTO' Subject: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, Gang: Thanks

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Qin Wu
report different Cost metric in the multi-domain setting? -Qin 发件人: Jensen Zhang [mailto:jingxuan.n.zh...@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月5日 10:26 收件人: Qiao Xiang 抄送: Qin Wu ; 刘鹏 ; IETF ALTO 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi Qin and Qiao, Please see my comments inline. On Thu, Mar 4

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Qin Wu
load on the network. -Qin 发件人: Li Gang [mailto:ligan...@chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月7日 16:30 收件人: kai...@scu.edu.cn; Qin Wu 抄送: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org; 'IETF ALTO' 主题: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, Kai and Qin, Thanks for triggering the discussion

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-07 Thread Li Gang
t;Qin Wu" Sent Time:2021-03-04 22:21:06 (Thursday) To: "kai...@scu.edu.cn" Cc: "alto-cha...@ietf.org" , "alto-...@ietf.org" , "IETF ALTO" Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Kai: 发件人: kai...@scu.edu.cn [mailto:kai...@scu.edu.cn] 发

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread 刘鹏
Hi Qin, Please see inline. Peng Liu | 刘鹏 China Mobile | 移动研究院 mobile phone:13810146105 email: liupeng...@chinamobile.com 发件人: Qin Wu 时间: 2021/03/03(星期三)17:11 收件人: 刘鹏; 抄送人: IETF ALTO; 主题: RE: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, Peng: 发件人: 刘鹏

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, 发件人: Qiao Xiang [mailto:xiang...@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月5日 0:03 收件人: Qin Wu 抄送: 刘鹏 ; Y. Richard Yang ; IETF ALTO 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Sorry, I missed one comment: Qin: I believe your case require server to server communication for end-to-end interdomain routing

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread kaigao
4 22:21:06 (Thursday) To: "kai...@scu.edu.cn" Cc: "alto-cha...@ietf.org" , "alto-...@ietf.org" , "IETF ALTO" Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Kai: 发件人: kai...@scu.edu.cn [mailto:kai...@scu.edu.cn] 发送时间: 2021年3月3日 21:40 收件人: Qin Wu

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Jensen Zhang
ation exposure which can >> be used to have a quick >> >> response to network anomaly or reroute the traffic to the less congested >> path [ >> https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/ZSM/001_099/002/01.01.01_60/gs_ZSM002v010101p.pdf >> ]. >> >> 3. PCE h

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review -- ALTO Data Model

2021-03-04 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi Jensen, >> Yes the YANG needs to follow whatever decision is taken regarding the >> ALTO server-to-server communication. There is also a high-level >> decision that if we have a single YANG model for ALTO that can be used >> by both client and server or have independent yang models: one for

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qiao Xiang
eresting algorithms for applications to select the best policy-compliant >> routes without knowing the export policies. The following is the pointer >> for this study: >> >> >> >> [3] "Toward Optimal Software-Defined Interdomain Routing". INFOC

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qiao Xiang
ZSM002v010101p.pdf > ]. > > 3. PCE has similar design for multi-domain setting, which allows PCE to > PCE communication. > > > Thank you again for the pointers. I'll take a look at ZSM and PCE soon. Best Qiao > -Qin > > *发件人:* Qiao Xiang [mailto:xiang...@gmail.com] &g

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qin Wu
Kai: 发件人: kai...@scu.edu.cn [mailto:kai...@scu.edu.cn] 发送时间: 2021年3月3日 21:40 收件人: Qin Wu 抄送: IETF ALTO ; alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Dear all, Below are some comments on the 2nd item in the recharter text. As far as I know

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qin Wu
; alto ; Qin Wu 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi all, I think SD-WAN can be covered by ALTO rechartered work item. SD-WAN can connects the user to any application wherever it resides from the data center to the cloud, and assesses the best path meeting the ideal performance

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-04 Thread Qin Wu
...@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月3日 0:18 收件人: 刘鹏 抄送: Y. Richard Yang ; IETF ALTO ; Qin Wu 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi Peng, Qin and Richard, Very good discussion! Richard and I have been working with folks from CMS and ESNet (a large global multi-domain science network) to design

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review -- ALTO Data Model

2021-03-03 Thread Jensen Zhang
Hi Dhruv, Thanks a lot for your feedback. On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:07 PM Dhruv Dhody wrote: > Hi Jensen, > > Thanks for starting this thread. It is great that you are thinking of > similar questions as I was :) > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:03 PM Jensen Zhang > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > >

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review -- ALTO Data Model

2021-03-03 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi Jensen, Thanks for starting this thread. It is great that you are thinking of similar questions as I was :) On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:03 PM Jensen Zhang wrote: > > Dear all, > > I would like to make some comments on the 3rd recharter item. > > This item is going to propose YANG data models

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-03 Thread Wei Wang
Hi all, I think SD-WAN can be covered by ALTO rechartered work item. SD-WAN can connects the user to any application wherever it resides from the data center to the cloud, and assesses the best path meeting the ideal performance needs for a specific application. SD-WAN can also be used for

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review -- ALTO Data Model

2021-03-03 Thread Jensen Zhang
Dear all, I would like to make some comments on the 3rd recharter item. This item is going to propose YANG data models for ALTO configuration and management. Most of this kind of YANG data models for communication protocols like PCEP [1] and HTTP [2] will support both client and server

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-03 Thread kaigao
.@ietf.org" , "IETF ALTO" Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Dear all, Below are some comments on the 2nd item in the recharter text. As far as I know, the ALTO incremental update extension (RFC 8895) already provides a mechanism to enable the "pub-sub&qu

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-03 Thread kaigao
l Messages- From:"Qin Wu" Sent Time:2021-02-22 21:50:44 (Monday) To: "IETF ALTO" Cc: "alto-cha...@ietf.org" , "alto-...@ietf.org" Subject: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the up

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-03 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, Peng: 发件人: 刘鹏 [mailto:liupeng...@chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月2日 11:41 收件人: Qin Wu 抄送: IETF ALTO 主题: Re: RE: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi Qin, Thanks you. I still have some questions, please see my reply inline below. Peng Liu | 刘鹏 China Mobile | 移动研究院 mobile phone:13810146105

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-02 Thread Qiao Xiang
k you. please see my reply inline below. > > > Peng Liu | 刘鹏 > China Mobile | 移动研究院 > mobile phone:13810146105 > email: * liupeng...@chinamobile.com * > > > 发件人: Y. Richard Yang > 时间: 2021/03/02(星期二)07:36 > 收件人: 刘鹏 ; > 抄送人: IETF ALTO ;Qin Wu ; > 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO D

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-01 Thread 刘鹏
时间: 2021/02/22(星期一)21:45 收件人: IETF ALTO; 抄送人: alto-chairs;alto-ads; 主题: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is arranged on Friday, March 12, 14:30-15:30(UTC). The goal

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-01 Thread Y. Richard Yang
rdless, I agree that it is important for the work to clarify on the privacy requirements. Richard > Regards, > > Peng > > Peng Liu | 刘鹏 > China Mobile | 移动研究院 > mobile phone:13810146105 > email: * liupeng...@chinamobile.com * > > > 发件人: Qin Wu > 时间: 2021/02/22(

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-02-28 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, Peng: Thanks for kicking off the discussion, see my reply inline below. 发件人: 刘鹏 [mailto:liupeng...@chinamobile.com] 发送时间: 2021年2月27日 10:23 收件人: IETF ALTO ; Qin Wu 主题: Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi WG, Here are some considerations of recharter: I believe that the multi domain

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-02-26 Thread 刘鹏
. Regards, Peng Peng Liu | 刘鹏 China Mobile | 移动研究院 mobile phone:13810146105 email: liupeng...@chinamobile.com 发件人: Qin Wu 时间: 2021/02/22(星期一)21:45 收件人: IETF ALTO; 抄送人: alto-chairs;alto-ads; 主题: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review Hi, : We have requested one hour

[alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-02-22 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, : We have requested one hour session for ALTO WG meeting in the upcoming IETF 110, which is arranged on Friday, March 12, 14:30-15:30(UTC). The goal is to boil down ALTO recharter and have consensus on charter contents in IETF 110. To get this goal, an updated inline draft charter text for