Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 22:50, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > > If amcheck still complains show us a chunk of your config file > > > around the problem line. > > > > maxpromotedays 0# Ensure reasonable number of incrementals > > ^^ > > > dumpcycle 7 # The number of days in t

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 08:15:50PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 18 April 2006 19:48, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > You shouldn't trust everything said on the mailing list ;( > > > :-) > > According to the manpage for amanda/amanda.conf, it is singular, > > no "s". But check it for spelling

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 19:48, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > You shouldn't trust everything said on the mailing list ;( > :-) > According to the manpage for amanda/amanda.conf, it is singular, > no "s". But check it for spelling too. > Checked, and checked. > If amcheck still complains show us a chunk o

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 19:58, Frank Smith wrote: > > On the older 2.4.5 version I have, the man page shows it as singular, > but I don't use it so it could be a typo. Hmm - you're right. I checked the man page for 2.5 and it is singular, so it was right the first time. >Are you sure that

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Frank Smith
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2006 19:24, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> One of the goals of the amanda planner is to have a consistant >> sized backup each run. That is clearly not going to happen >> with the DLEs you are backing up. If you want to defeat this >> aspect of amanda's planning the

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 07:13:39PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2006 19:24, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > One of the goals of the amanda planner is to have a consistant > > sized backup each run. That is clearly not going to happen > > with the DLEs you are backing up. If you want

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 19:24, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > One of the goals of the amanda planner is to have a consistant > sized backup each run. That is clearly not going to happen > with the DLEs you are backing up. If you want to defeat this > aspect of amanda's planning the parameters are there,

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Frank Smith
Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:03:29PM -0500, Frank Smith wrote: >> Anne Wilson wrote: >>> When I add the video directories, I'll put them into two DLEs, which will >>> give around 5GB in one and 10GB in the other, and I'll start them on >>> different days. That should help the

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:03:29PM -0500, Frank Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > When I add the video directories, I'll put them into two DLEs, which will > > give around 5GB in one and 10GB in the other, and I'll start them on > > different days. That should help the balancing, I thi

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 20:03, Frank Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > When I add the video directories, I'll put them into two DLEs, which > > will give around 5GB in one and 10GB in the other, and I'll start them on > > different days. That should help the balancing, I think. > > > > Anne >

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Frank Smith
Anne Wilson wrote: > > When I add the video directories, I'll put them into two DLEs, which will > give around 5GB in one and 10GB in the other, and I'll start them on > different days. That should help the balancing, I think. > > Anne Also, if you have DLEs that change infrequently, and tha

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 19:24, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > Just to be sure you understand what is happening, I'll try an > example based on your DLEs. Assumptions, 3 DLEs, photo (4GB), > public (3GB), and home (21GB); dumpcycle == runspercycle == 4. > > Amanda knows from historical data that it must ba

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 06:50:37PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2006 16:47, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > The DLEs are set to a 4-day rotation, but in practice I > > > am seeing level 0 backups almost every other day,

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:34, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > promoting == moving to a lower numeric level > bumping == moving to a higher numeric level > > If the last dump of a DLE was an incremental, and it is not > scheduled for a level 0, then amanda must decide to promote, > repeat, or bump the lev

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 16:47, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > The DLEs are set to a 4-day rotation, but in practice I > > am seeing level 0 backups almost every other day, for all of them. > > > > It would seem reasonable, to me, based on t

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 05:00:25PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2006 16:47, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > Another thing you can do that helped me out a lot - change the bump > > parameters! I work with a fairly large Amanda setup where disk space > > is usually at a premium. I w

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 17:31, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 05:05:46PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Monday 17 April 2006 16:39, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > - for static data, I have such a beast, a file system of iso images > > > of OS installation CDs, I set that DLE to strategy

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 05:05:46PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 17 April 2006 16:39, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > - for static data, I have such a beast, a file system of iso images > > of OS installation CDs, I set that DLE to strategy full dump only > > > I'm still very new to this, and t

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 16:39, Jon LaBadie wrote: Hi, Jon. > The combination of a low number of DLEs and greatly varying sizes > for those DLEs will always cause the promotion problems you are > seeing. Amanda is trying to "balance" the amount of work done > daily and if you are trying to average

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 16:47, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > If you want a level0 weekly why not set your dumpcycle to 7 days? This > basically tells Amanda to try and do weekly level0 backups and > incrementals are okay in between. > That's what I thought, thanks. > Another thing you can do that he

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > The DLEs are set to a 4-day rotation, but in practice I > am seeing level 0 backups almost every other day, for all of them. > > It would seem reasonable, to me, based on the small amount of changes, > to have a level0 weekly, for all

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > I'm not having any problems with amanda, but the results do seem > 'over-the'top' for my needs, which leads me to wonder whether I need to > change some parameters. > > At the moment there are three DLEs. One is a backup of the whol

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 April 2006 13:47, Matt Hyclak wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson enlightened us: > > I did wonder if it was possible to define a completely separate set of > > parameters for these video directories, using a monthly rotation, say, > > but I get the impressio

Re: Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:15:07PM +0100, Anne Wilson enlightened us: > I did wonder if it was possible to define a completely separate set of > parameters for these video directories, using a monthly rotation, say, but I > get the impression that that's not possible. > You could do a second con

Defining a sensible backup routine

2006-04-17 Thread Anne Wilson
I'm not having any problems with amanda, but the results do seem 'over-the'top' for my needs, which leads me to wonder whether I need to change some parameters. At the moment there are three DLEs. One is a backup of the whole /home with a few exceptions, and that is quite big, around 21GB. Th