Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-28 Thread Philippe Michel
Anthony Worrall wrote: Hi unfortunately zfsdump, or zfs send as it is now, does not relate to ufsdump in any way :-( [...] I wrote a script to use this but I had a problem getting estimates for the incremental snapshots. I have used this script, picked from the list's archive, for about 18

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Nick Smith wrote: Dear Amanda Administrators. What dump configuration would you suggest for backing up a ZFS pool of about 300GB? Within the pool there several smaller 'filesystems'. Would you : 1. Use a script to implement ZFS snapshots and send these to the server as the DLE? 2.

RE: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Anthony Worrall
this limitation. Anthony Worrall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hoogendyk Sent: 25 April 2008 13:39 To: Nick Smith Cc: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Amanda and ZFS Nick Smith wrote: Dear Amanda Administrators

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 02:32:27PM +0100, Anthony Worrall wrote: Hi unfortunately zfsdump, or zfs send as it is now, does not relate to ufsdump in any way :-( [ big snip ] One of the properties of zfs is that in encourages the use of a filesystem for a logical set of files, i.e.

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Anthony Worrall wrote: Hi unfortunately zfsdump, or zfs send as it is now, does not relate to ufsdump in any way :-( hmm. I guess I was being a bit naive. I had assumed zfs development was more mature. After reading the comments on this thread, I went searching for references to zfsdump

RE: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread John E Hein
Anthony Worrall wrote at 14:32 +0100 on Apr 25, 2008: unfortunately zfsdump, or zfs send as it is now, does not relate to ufsdump in any way :-( Sorry to hijack this thread, but... Can Solaris and/or ZFS snapshots support partial filesystem dumps (and restores)? If not, how do people

RE: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Anthony Worrall
neat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon LaBadie Sent: 25 April 2008 16:00 To: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Amanda and ZFS On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 02:32:27PM +0100, Anthony Worrall wrote: Hi unfortunately zfsdump

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread John E Hein
Jon LaBadie wrote at 10:59 -0400 on Apr 25, 2008: Another way would be to use include directives. For example, if the zfs pool was /pool and had file systems of a, b,c, and d, you could set up multiple DLEs that were rooted at /pool (different tag names) and had include directives of

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Pieter Bowman
I started using ZFS in a big way over a year ago on our main file server. Since there is no ufsdump replacement to use with ZFS, I elected to use GNU tar. I know this doesn't yet cover backing up things like ACLs, but we don't use them in our very heterogeneous environment. The main idea I had

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread John E Hein
Pieter Bowman wrote at 11:41 -0600 on Apr 25, 2008: The final issue I found was that the inode numbers in the snapshots change each time a new snapshot is created. This is a problem with GNU tar's listed-incremental facility. To work around this I ended up hacking GNU tar to make it

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:46:34AM -0600, John E Hein wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote at 10:59 -0400 on Apr 25, 2008: Another way would be to use include directives. For example, if the zfs pool was /pool and had file systems of a, b,c, and d, you could set up multiple DLEs that were rooted at

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread John E Hein
Jon LaBadie wrote at 13:57 -0400 on Apr 25, 2008: Though I've not tried it, it should. I base that on the description of the command /usr/sbin/ufsdump [options] [arguments] files_to_dump and the belief that the include directive merely provides the args corresponding to

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Pieter Bowman
... The gtar devs finally accepted something to help with this problem: --no-check-device. ... Thanks, I hadn't caught the addition of that option. That also reminds me that the problem isn't the inode number, but the device number which was the problem. Pieter

Re: Amanda and ZFS

2008-04-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 01:36:35PM -0600, John E Hein wrote: Jon LaBadie wrote at 13:57 -0400 on Apr 25, 2008: Though I've not tried it, it should. I base that on the description of the command /usr/sbin/ufsdump [options] [arguments] files_to_dump and the belief that

Re: amanda and zfs

2006-03-08 Thread Paddy Sreenivasan
Hi Anthony, Thanks for providing ufsdump wrapper to handle ZFS. When Application API (http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Application_API) is implemented (hopefully in the next Amanda release after 2.5), creating application plugin for snapshot based filesystem such as ZFS will be easier. Issue 1