On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:00:14AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> Would you point me to your other submissions so that I can check into
> what happend and why they were mishandled.
Just from the patches I have laying around
1. A build fix for Windows/cygwin builds so that SYSTEMROOT was part of the
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 09:59:53AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> Discard a perfectly valid dump? Possibly the one and only copy of some data?
> It still could be used by a SysAdmin in a number of ways. For example, it
> could be manually taped or stored in some manner; it could be used for amanda
>
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:52:45PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
>
> I would offer a patch, but every patch I've offered in the past has been
> ignored. Back when I did have a good attitude about this project, and
> thought it was really good.
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:45:46PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:38:59PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > > > You know you have a DLE that is too big to tape and that amanda
> > > > does not handle it well. Isn't it time to stop wasting time
> > > > and tape and split the DLE?
>
> > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:51:15AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrot
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:50:21PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 at 3:00pm, Joe Rhett wrote
>
> > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:06:37PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > > *You* are the only one who can really identify the problem. Are you
> > > using
> > > server-side
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 at 3:00pm, Joe Rhett wrote
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:06:37PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > *You* are the only one who can really identify the problem. Are you using
> > server-side or client-side estimates? If the latter, look at the
> > sendsize*debug for the 53G
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 01:14:16PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> No, I was commenting on the futility of trying again something that failed
> once unexpectedly, you knew it was going to fail again, and have known from
> 5 years of amanda experience that that particular situation would always fail.
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:56:55AM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> You seem to be under the impression that free software is going to be fixed
> by other people.
Not at all. All the other free software projects I've worked on we submit
patches and they are either accepted or rejected with a reas
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:18:39PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 10:10am, Joe Rhett wrote
>
> > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:52:29AM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > > This can happen for a variety of reasons. Sometimes a DLE grows between
> > > estimate time and d
> > > You know you have a DLE that is too big to tape and that amanda
> > > does not handle it well. Isn't it time to stop wasting time
> > > and tape and split the DLE?
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:51:15AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > Ah, I'm sorry! I should not assume that amanda can do it's ow
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 9:51am, Joe Rhett wrote
> > Ah, I'm sorry! I should not assume that amanda can do it's own math. I
> > must sit down with a calculator every night and do my own estimates and
> > make this all work?
> >
> > Jon, this is a fairly serious problem with amanda. Why are you b
Thankyou for both copies of your courteous email!
This one time, at band camp, Joe Rhett wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:46:43AM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
>> There's a patch from John Stange that I don't believe has been committed to
>> CVS, but it takes care of splitting dumps and spanning
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 10:10am, Joe Rhett wrote
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:52:29AM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > This can happen for a variety of reasons. Sometimes a DLE grows between
> > estimate time and dump time. If you're using software compression and
> > it's a relatively new
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 at 9:51am, Joe Rhett wrote
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:46:36PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > > Yeah, I didn't need those tapes for anything else. Let's just waste 12
> > > hours and 3 tapes doing absolutely NOTHING.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:22:53PM -0400, Jon LaBadie w
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:42:37PM -0400, Lengyel, Florian wrote:
> Ah, not splitting the DLE is retarded. The whining is a most productive use
> of bandwidth, however. I'd like to see a discussion of the code with the
> purported error. That would have some intellectual (as opposed to emotional)
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:51:15AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:46:36PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > > Yeah, I didn't need those tapes for anything else. Let's just waste 12
> > > hours and 3 tapes doing absolutely NOTHING.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:22:53PM -0400, J
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:46:43AM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> There's a patch from John Stange that I don't believe has been committed to
> CVS, but it takes care of splitting dumps and spanning tapes. Grep for it
> on the amanda-hackers list. Doesn't fix #2, but should take care of #1 for
>
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:52:29AM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> This can happen for a variety of reasons. Sometimes a DLE grows between
> estimate time and dump time. If you're using software compression and
> it's a relatively new DLE (or the nature of the data changes), amanda's
> est
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:46:36PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > Yeah, I didn't need those tapes for anything else. Let's just waste 12
> > hours and 3 tapes doing absolutely NOTHING.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:22:53PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> What's the saying?
> "If you keep doing what
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:00:39PM -0500, Frank Smith wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:43AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> >> Some part of the code mistakenly decided to store 53gb to the holding disk,
> >> and then tried to flush it to tape, regardless of the fairly basic math
> >> involved.
>
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:35am, Joe Rhett wrote
> I don't think this is the answer. The real answer is that the filesystem
> it is trying to flush was 53gb in size when you put all the chunks
> together. That won't fit on a 33gb tape.
>
> 1. Why aren't we backing up chunks to different tapes ye
This one time, at band camp, Joe Rhett wrote:
>1. Why aren't we backing up chunks to different tapes yet? Amanda is the
>only backup software which doesn't handle this.
>
>-and more importantly-
>
>2. Why is it trying to back up 53gb to a 33gb tape definition?
>
>#2 is clearly a bug. #1 is a feat
Title: RE: This is retarded.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:46:36PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
>
> And well, tonight, it does it again.
>
> USAGE BY TAPE:
> Label Time Size % Nb
> svk17 0:00 0.0 0.0 0
> svk18 0:00 0.0
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:46:36PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:43AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > Some part of the code mistakenly decided to store 53gb to the holding disk,
> > and then tried to flush it to tape, regardless of the fairly basic math
> > involved.
>
> And
--On Wednesday, August 31, 2005 15:46:36 -0700 Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:43AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
>> Some part of the code mistakenly decided to store 53gb to the holding disk,
>> and then tried to flush it to tape, regardless of the fairly basic mat
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:43AM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> Some part of the code mistakenly decided to store 53gb to the holding disk,
> and then tried to flush it to tape, regardless of the fairly basic math
> involved.
And well, tonight, it does it again.
USAGE BY TAPE:
Label Time
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 06:01:07PM -0500, Frank Smith wrote:
> In order to tell if Amanda is deficient in some way, we need some more
> information.
> According to the original post, this was an amflush run, so this DLE must be
> sitting
> on a holdindisk. Since normally Amanda refuses to backup
> > >On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single byte to
> > >>them?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 06:35:12PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> And not using samba, right Joe :))
Right. Straight amanda clients, some Solaris, some Lin
--On Tuesday, August 30, 2005 18:35:12 -0400 Jon LaBadie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 01:48:28PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
>> > On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single byte to
>> >> them?
>>
>> On
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 01:48:28PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> >On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single byte to
> >>them?
>
> On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Cam wrote:
> > What's retarded? your configuration? you really didn't
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Subject: Re: This is retarded.
> On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a sing
> > On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a
> single byte
> >> to them?
>
> On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Cam wrote:
> > What's retarded? your configuration? you really didn't give enough
> > information for anyone to help you
--On August 30, 2005 2:36:45 PM -0600 Graeme Humphries
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This looks like a hardware error with your tape drive more than an amanda
problem, at least to me.
Could be, or could be AMANDA's still poor behavior when a DLE exceeds the
capacity of a single tape, and the
On 8/30/05, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single byte to
them?
On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Cam wrote:
What's retarded? your configuration? you really didn't give enough
information for anyone to help you.
We've been running in
Joe Rhett wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is retarded. I know that amanda has stone-age
tape tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single
byte to them?
This looks like a hardware error with your tape drive more than an
amanda problem, at least to me.
Graeme
I'm sorry, but this is retarded. I know that amanda has stone-age tape
tracking ability, but let's use 3 tapes and write not a single byte to
them?
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