DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Dan Rich
I have a DLT IV drive that I cannot get to stream with amanda. With a little bit of experimentation, I have found that it will stream with tar if I set the block size to 128KB. However, amanda only seems to support block sizes of 32kb. The constant rewind/seek motion of the tape is rough on

Re: DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:23:19AM -0800, Dan Rich wrote: I have a DLT IV drive that I cannot get to stream with amanda. With a little bit of experimentation, I have found that it will stream with tar if I set the block size to 128KB. However, amanda only seems to support block sizes of

Re: DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Glenn English
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 11:23 -0800, Dan Rich wrote: I have a DLT IV drive that I cannot get to stream with amanda. I ran into the same problem. I solved it (inelegantly, but solved with no source code futzing) by running the backup with no tape in the drive, then later running amflush when the

Re: DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Andreas Sundstrom
Dan Rich wrote: I have a DLT IV drive that I cannot get to stream with amanda. With a little bit of experimentation, I have found that it will stream with tar if I set the block size to 128KB. However, amanda only seems to support block sizes of 32kb. The constant rewind/seek motion of the

Re: DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Jon, on Freitag, 14. Jänner 2005 at 20:44 you wrote to amanda-users: JL It is not a patch, its a feature. JL But it must be specified at configure time, then compiled. JL Check the amanda man page for blocksize. To be precise, please check the latest version of the amanda.8-manpage at

Re: DLT tape streaming and amanda blocksize

2005-01-14 Thread Dan Rich
of the amanda.8-manpage at http://www.amanda.org/docs/amanda.8.html, the html-version contains the most up-to-date version. Thanks, I just recompiled it. Unfortunately, I can't hear whether or not my tape drive at home is streaming from the office :) Hopefully this will work and I can still

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Are you sure that the amount of holding disk space you have, minus 50%, is sufficient to hold those level 0's? Yes. They dump and fit. I have 25G of holding space and only dump 10G or so. The whats.NEW is actually quite old. Note at the top of the document it indicates these are new

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Instead, it says, if a backup is level 0, can it be buffered on the holding disk. If the reserve parameter is set to 100, then 100% of the holding disk space can be used only for incrementals. All level 0's will go straight to tape. If the reserve is set to 25%, then that portion can

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 08:02:59AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: Instead, it says, if a backup is level 0, can it be buffered on the holding disk. If the reserve parameter is set to 100, then 100% of the holding disk space can be used only for incrementals. All level 0's will go straight

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-17 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 08:03, Jon LaBadie wrote: If there is no tape present (or the tape drive fails during dumping), Amanda switches to degraded mode. In degraded mode, level-0 dumps are not allowed. Don't think so. According to the ChangeLog in the Amanda source: 1998-06-28

streaming fixed?

2004-06-16 Thread Glenn English
I have Amanda configured to do all its backups (local and net) to disk. I set the reserved parameter to 0 -- that will make it do complete backups, right? (As opposed to degraded mode) And if I run amflush I'll have complete backups on tape of everything in the disklist, right? long story A

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-16 Thread Paul Bijnens
Glenn English wrote: I have Amanda configured to do all its backups (local and net) to disk. I set the reserved parameter to 0 -- that will make it do complete backups, right? (As opposed to degraded mode) And if I run amflush I'll have complete backups on tape of everything in the disklist,

Re: streaming fixed?

2004-06-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 02:27:07PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: I have Amanda configured to do all its backups (local and net) to disk. I set the reserved parameter to 0 -- that will make it do complete backups, right? (As opposed to degraded mode) And if I run amflush I'll have complete

Re: streaming

2004-06-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Glenn, on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 06:51 you wrote to amanda-users: GE Jon implied that hdparm may be just kidding about this. hdparm -Tt gives GE the following: GE GE /dev/hda: GE Timing buffer-cache reads: 2800 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1399.51 MB/sec GE Timing buffered disk

Re: streaming

2004-06-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger, on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 09:12 you wrote to amanda-users: SGW Hi, Glenn, SGW on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 06:51 you wrote to amanda-users: GE I looked at another system: an old Dell server downstairs with a Maxtor GE PCI IDE card and a 2 or 3 year old Maxtor

Re: streaming

2004-06-03 Thread Sven Rudolph
Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 10:59, Jon LaBadie wrote: I doubt there is any tapedrive that is too fast for your disk drives. I thought so too. But when dump is running from one disk to the other, it reports speeds about 20% higher (~10MB/s) than it does

Re: streaming

2004-06-03 Thread Martin Hepworth
Glen I'd check the logic in the kernel code that checks for 80 way cables etc etc. When I last looked at 2.4.19 it was doing some weird stuff - do the checks then reset the flag where the bit table for the capabilities of the drive is set. As opposed to reset, then do the checks! I know you

Re: streaming

2004-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 03 June 2004 03:26, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger, on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 09:12 you wrote to amanda-users: SGW Hi, Glenn, SGW on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 06:51 you wrote to amanda-users: GE I looked at another system: an old Dell server

streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Glenn English
, is hopeless, streaming-wise. I know I could do amdumps and then amflushes at 3:00 AM, but if I could get Amanda to wait for all the dumps to come in before writing to tape, I think things would be OK. I wouldn't mind dedicating an IDE drive as the holdingdisk, but I'd hate to have to buy a 60GB SCSI

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Eric Siegerman
disk on a dedicated Amanda server like ours. The only exception I can think of is raw platter RPMs; I don't know whether that'd make the difference between keeping your DLT streaming and not (with our lowly DDS3, it's not exactly an issue :-/) -- | | /\ |-_|/ Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 10:59, Jon LaBadie wrote: I doubt there is any tapedrive that is too fast for your disk drives. I thought so too. But when dump is running from one disk to the other, it reports speeds about 20% higher (~10MB/s) than it does when running from disk to tape (~8MB/s). I can

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 15:51, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 10:59, Jon LaBadie wrote: I doubt there is any tapedrive that is too fast for your disk drives. I thought so too. But when dump is running from one disk to the other, it reports speeds about 20% higher (~10MB/s) than

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 01:51:26PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 10:59, Jon LaBadie wrote: I doubt there is any tapedrive that is too fast for your disk drives. I thought so too. But when dump is running from one disk to the other, it reports speeds about 20% higher

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: Any current ide drive can do 30+ Mb/sec if left alone by other tasks, often quite a ways on the + side. Is that just a burst out of the cache, or can they read dis-contiguous files, seek around to other files, wait for latency, and write all at

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Glenn, on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 00:21 you wrote to amanda-users: GE On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: There is also an algorythm string in amanda.conf that adjusts the dumporders a bit, I have mine set to to the largest dump first, so that once its done, there is

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:21:35PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: Any current ide drive can do 30+ Mb/sec if left alone by other tasks, often quite a ways on the + side. Is that just a burst out of the cache, or can they read dis-contiguous

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 18:21, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: Any current ide drive can do 30+ Mb/sec if left alone by other tasks, often quite a ways on the + side. Is that just a burst out of the cache, or can they read dis-contiguous files, seek

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 18:48, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:21:35PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: Any current ide drive can do 30+ Mb/sec if left alone by other tasks, often quite a ways on the + side. Is that just a burst

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 June 2004 19:00, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Hi, Jon, on Donnerstag, 03. Juni 2004 at 00:48 you wrote to amanda-users: JL On Solaris x86, one thing that terribly degrades IDE disk JL performance is if the driver does not use dma but uses pio mode. JL There are even reports of

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 09:52:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: The ideal situation would be to have the backup thats being optionally gzipped ... Gene's mention of compression reminded me. If you are using disk drive compression you have to feed data at a higher rate to the drive than if it

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Frank Smith
--On Wednesday, June 02, 2004 23:19:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 09:52:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: The ideal situation would be to have the backup thats being optionally gzipped ... Gene's mention of compression reminded me. If you are using

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 17:07, Frank Smith wrote: If it's linux, try using hdparm to verify the modes and speed of your disk. Like Jon says, a good drive can have terrible performance if it is running in the wrong mode. hdparm is a nifty addition to my system monitoring toolkit (top, gnome's

Re: streaming

2004-06-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 10:45:00PM -0500, Frank Smith wrote: --On Wednesday, June 02, 2004 23:19:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 09:52:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: The ideal situation would be to have the backup thats being optionally gzipped

Re: add new clients, lost order scheduleing, tape isn't streaming

2003-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
# B - biggest bandwitdh # try BTBTBTBTBTBT if you are not holding # disk constrained # BUT, if you want streaming, start with the big ones and work down --- Maybe I should change the first 5 or 6

Re: add new clients, lost order scheduleing, tape isn't streaming

2003-05-31 Thread Gene Heskett
Resent on the list Jon, I'm bouncing again On Friday 30 May 2003 04:07, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:15:54AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Hi everybody; Now the client is a bit slow, a 500mhz K6-III, so I expected the level 0's this would cause would take a while. This also

add new clients, lost order scheduleing, tape isn't streaming

2003-05-30 Thread Gene Heskett
Hi everybody; I've been rsync'ing those pieces of the firewall I consider precious for the last 2 years, and backing up this rsync'd mirror. Tonight, I figured it was time I actually learned a bit about client-server relationships, so I redid the disklist, and installed the 20030529 snapshot

Re: add new clients, lost order scheduleing, tape isn't streaming

2003-05-30 Thread Paul Bijnens
Gene Heskett wrote: Now the client is a bit slow, a 500mhz K6-III, so I expected the level 0's this would cause would take a while. This also brought my disklist entries up to 44. The string that controls the dumporder in amanda.conf: dumporder

Re: taper tunning to achieve tape streaming

2001-12-14 Thread Mitch Collinsworth
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Mihai Lozoveanu wrote: Does anyone know how to modify the buffering ot the taper so that I can achive tape streaming. I'm using an dlt8000 tape on an enterprise e250 sun server. When Are you using a holding disk? Or backing up direct to tape? -Mitch

Re: taper tunning to achieve tape streaming

2001-12-14 Thread Mihai Lozoveanu
Mitch == Mitch Collinsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I'am using 20G for holding disk. I had two files produced by amdump each one 9G. The taper doesn't achieve streaming when write them to the tape (and the rate is around 4MB/s instead of 5.9MB/s which is nominal). I tried

taper tunning to achieve tape streaming

2001-12-12 Thread Mihai Lozoveanu
Hi, Does anyone know how to modify the buffering ot the taper so that I can achive tape streaming. I'm using an dlt8000 tape on an enterprise e250 sun server. When write the same files to the tape using tar with blocking factor 126 or 256 the tape gets into full streaming. The tapebufs

Re: DLT drive not streaming

2001-08-04 Thread Johannes Niess
Joe McGuckin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm using Amanda on FreeBSD 4.3 with a DLT7000. I notice when dumping that the DLT drive does not stream continously. Are there options to taper to make it go faster ? Thanks, Joe Joe, Have you checked the basic stuff? Is the holding disk

DLT drive not streaming

2001-07-30 Thread Joe McGuckin
I'm using Amanda on FreeBSD 4.3 with a DLT7000. I notice when dumping that the DLT drive does not stream continously. Are there options to taper to make it go faster ? Thanks, Joe

Re: DLT drive not streaming

2001-07-30 Thread John R. Jackson
, taper is already doing a really good job. If the drive is not streaming, you may need to look elsewhere (how fast taper can read from the holding disk, how fast the controller can feed the drive, other bus contention, termination problems, cable problems, etc). Joe John R. Jackson, Technical

DLT7000 drive not streaming ?

2000-12-28 Thread Joe McGuckin
I have a FreeBSD system running Amanda 2.4.2 with a DLT7000 tape drive. I notice that the drive doesn't stream continously. The tape shuttles back and forth. Is there a way to maximize tape drive throughput so that the tape drive will stream continously? Thanks, Joe DUMP SUMMARY: