Re: terminology help - branching out the question a bit

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Bijnens
Dana Bourgeois wrote: > [fast from disk restores vs. tape restores] I simplified your questions a little. In the context of backup-to-disk vs. backup-to-tape, consider this too. Modern OS's can do snapshots of their filesystems (at least one of the later releases of Solaris 8, and the volume man

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:25:48PM +0100, Tom Brown wrote: > > > tapecycle 20 tapes: > > > number of tapes to use per dumpcycle of 2 weeks. 10 tapes X 2 dumpcycles > = > > > 20 tapes. > > > > Yes, but you really should have an extra tape or two in there to lessen > > the chance of a failed backup o

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Brown
> Tom, > you don't have it as dumpcycle*runspercycle. > In your two examples you have it as "runspercycle" period. > > To demostrate the problem consider the simplest situation. > A dumpcycle of 1 day, a runspercycle of 1, and a tapecycle of 1. > > Each amdump uses the ONLY tape containing the last

RE: terminology help - branching out the question a bit

2003-10-16 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 at 12:11pm, Dana Bourgeois wrote > To follow up on this a little further..could you address 'runtapes'? If I > set 'runtapes' to two or larger, then as long as every client dump is > smaller than one tape, amanda will pack it all on (if I don't have > tape/drive problems and d

Re: terminology help - branching out the question a bit

2003-10-16 Thread Brian Cuttler
good UPS, you don't even go with a tape drive except for when > you're sending something off-site? At what technology point does a tape > drive equal a disk drive in I/O assuming dedicated 133 MHz 7200 RPM ATA > channels? I don't think AIT2 or DLT8000 are as fast but AIT3, SDLT and LTO? > &g

RE: terminology help - branching out the question a bit

2003-10-16 Thread Dana Bourgeois
or DLT8000 are as fast but AIT3, SDLT and LTO? Dana Bourgeois > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon LaBadie > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: terminology help > &g

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Brian Cuttler
Frank, Tom, I was thinking the same thing, though where possible I have a couple of extra anyway (2 x runs/cycle + N) for small values of N. Tom, whatever I said, ignore it, you are in reasonable good shape, you have fallback. > --On Thursday, October 16, 2003 16:25:48 +0100 Tom Brown <[EMAIL PR

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Frank Smith
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 16:25:48 +0100 Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > tapecycle 20 tapes: >> > number of tapes to use per dumpcycle of 2 weeks. 10 tapes X 2 dumpcycles > = >> > 20 tapes. >> >> Yes, but you really should have an extra tape or two in there to lessen >> the chance

Re: terminology help (fwd)

2003-10-16 Thread Brian Cuttler
Tom, If all goes well you will have at least one level 0 of each partition during the dumpcycle. With only a single dumpcycle of tapes in the tape pool you may find that you lose your only level 0 if there are any problems, ie: bad physical tape, need to do flushes, dirty drive... How many more

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Brown
> > tapecycle 20 tapes: > > number of tapes to use per dumpcycle of 2 weeks. 10 tapes X 2 dumpcycles = > > 20 tapes. > > Yes, but you really should have an extra tape or two in there to lessen > the chance of a failed backup overwriting your last full backup. You > should really consider doubling

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:08:39PM +0200, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: > Brian Cuttler wrote: > >"due", payable, owed, expected > > > >The bills are due to be payed this week. > > Ok for due, I guess it means I will have to backup that host in two > days, and that other in three days. > > But for over

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Galen Johnson
Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: Brian Cuttler wrote: "due", payable, owed, expected The bills are due to be payed this week. Ok for due, I guess it means I will have to backup that host in two days, and that other in three days. But for overdue ? Does this mean I **will** have to backup that host ye

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Frank Smith
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 17:58:26 +0530 Rohit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is what I understoond by the terms "dumpcycle", "runspercycle" & > "tapecycle". Please correct me if I have misunderstood these terms. > > dumpcycle 2 weeks: > Full backups of all shares will be done once

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot
Brian Cuttler wrote: "due", payable, owed, expected The bills are due to be payed this week. Ok for due, I guess it means I will have to backup that host in two days, and that other in three days. But for overdue ? Does this mean I **will** have to backup that host yesterday ? :o) -- Nicolas E

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Brian Cuttler
"due", payable, owed, expected The bills are due to be payed this week. > As we're speaking about terminology, there are things I don't understand > as english is not my native language : > Amongst them, I don't understand the term "due". Could anyone explain me > this word with some other sim

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot
As we're speaking about terminology, there are things I don't understand as english is not my native language : Amongst them, I don't understand the term "due". Could anyone explain me this word with some other simple words ? When I type "amadmin DailySet1 due", I get : Due in 8 days: somehost.f

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 09:23:47AM -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:58:26PM +0530, Rohit enlightened us: > > > > This is what I understoond by the terms "dumpcycle", "runspercycle" & > > "tapecycle". Please correct me if I have misunderstood these terms. > > > > dumpcycle 2

Re: terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 05:58:26PM +0530, Rohit enlightened us: > > This is what I understoond by the terms "dumpcycle", "runspercycle" & > "tapecycle". Please correct me if I have misunderstood these terms. > > dumpcycle 2 weeks: > Full backups of all shares will be done once in every 2 > weeks

terminology help

2003-10-16 Thread Rohit
This is what I understoond by the terms "dumpcycle", "runspercycle" & "tapecycle". Please correct me if I have misunderstood these terms. dumpcycle 2 weeks: Full backups of all shares will be done once in every 2 weeks (or 10 days - excluding weekends (sat/sun)) runspercycle 10: amdump runs 10 d