Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 04:09:57PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:58:29PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > > > > - You can exclude only one pattern. > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to > > > > > figure > > > > > out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine > > > > > when I > > > > > run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, > > > > > and > > > > > just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've > > > > > missed? > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:17:31PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > > could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) pattern > > > > that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. Also the path > > > > to file(s) on the window machine that is excluded properly by smbclient > > > > but gets included by amanda. > > > > > > No such animal. I never said smbclient, I said tar. The system is > > > running > > > the amanda client. > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:06:27PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > Your subject says "Window machines". > > > > I assumed you were backing up samba shares. > > That uses smbclient with its "tar" option. > > > > If you had meant the much less commonly used cygwin port of amanda, > > which does use gnutar, I thought you would have mentioned it. > > > > Or maybe there is another possibility I haven't considered. > > Give me a hand here. > > I'm sorry, I thought I was on the amanda mailing list, writing about the > amanda client. No, I'm not talking about using a program to back up remote > shares - I am writing about the actual amanda client. > > I'm a bit surprised by your negative response, and your assumption of an > indirect method of backup over the native client. And whatever -- this > issue has been ignored by you guys for years now, why am I bothering? Joe, In your first posting on this thread you deleted the OP's comments, starting with Paul B's response to the OP. That led me to believe, since I did not go back to the archive to examine the thread, that you were the OP. I did not realize you were jumping in on another, windows-related thread with a new, somewhat unrelated question (at least as to OS). If you'd like to continue exploring your situation I'd suggest you start a new thread and I'd like to see the same things I asked for earlier. You still could have shown them to us even given my mistaken assumption that you were dealing with a windows client. Namely things like: - disklist - filesystem organization - exclude file or patterns that amanda does not do what you want - tar command that does (including where you execute from) - ??? whatever you think might help BTW what issue has the list been ignoring? -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:58:29PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > > > - You can exclude only one pattern. > > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to figure > > > > out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine when > > > > I > > > > run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, > > > > and > > > > just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've missed? > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:17:31PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) pattern > > > that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. Also the path > > > to file(s) on the window machine that is excluded properly by smbclient > > > but gets included by amanda. > > > > No such animal. I never said smbclient, I said tar. The system is running > > the amanda client. On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:06:27PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Your subject says "Window machines". > > I assumed you were backing up samba shares. > That uses smbclient with its "tar" option. > > If you had meant the much less commonly used cygwin port of amanda, > which does use gnutar, I thought you would have mentioned it. > > Or maybe there is another possibility I haven't considered. > Give me a hand here. I'm sorry, I thought I was on the amanda mailing list, writing about the amanda client. No, I'm not talking about using a program to back up remote shares - I am writing about the actual amanda client. I'm a bit surprised by your negative response, and your assumption of an indirect method of backup over the native client. And whatever -- this issue has been ignored by you guys for years now, why am I bothering? -- Joe Rhett Senior Geek Meer.net
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
On Friday 28 January 2005 19:09, Joe Rhett wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:58:29PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: >> > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: >> > > > > - You can exclude only one pattern. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: >> > > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying >> > > > (lazily) to figure out why my excludes are ignored during >> > > > backups, but work just fine when I run the same tar command >> > > > by hand. I need to add some debugging code, and just >> > > > haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've >> > > > missed? >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:17:31PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> > > could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) >> > > pattern that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. >> > > Also the path to file(s) on the window machine that is >> > > excluded properly by smbclient but gets included by amanda. >> > >> > No such animal. I never said smbclient, I said tar. The system >> > is running the amanda client. > >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:06:27PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> Your subject says "Window machines". >> >> I assumed you were backing up samba shares. >> That uses smbclient with its "tar" option. >> >> If you had meant the much less commonly used cygwin port of >> amanda, which does use gnutar, I thought you would have mentioned >> it. >> >> Or maybe there is another possibility I haven't considered. >> Give me a hand here. > >I'm sorry, I thought I was on the amanda mailing list, writing about > the amanda client. No, I'm not talking about using a program to > back up remote shares - I am writing about the actual amanda > client. > >I'm a bit surprised by your negative response, and your assumption > of an indirect method of backup over the native client. And > whatever -- this issue has been ignored by you guys for years now, > why am I bothering? Thats a good question Joe. We're asking for system details so that one of us might be able to help, and you are giving us invective instead. Its possible that one of us here, may have walked on that ground before, and could possibly offer some help. But without enough details to be able to picture the system, its not going to happen. Your choice... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.32% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:58:29PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > > - You can exclude only one pattern. > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to figure > > > out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine when I > > > run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, and > > > just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've missed? > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:17:31PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) pattern > > that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. Also the path > > to file(s) on the window machine that is excluded properly by smbclient > > but gets included by amanda. > > No such animal. I never said smbclient, I said tar. The system is running > the amanda client. Your subject says "Window machines". I assumed you were backing up samba shares. That uses smbclient with its "tar" option. If you had meant the much less commonly used cygwin port of amanda, which does use gnutar, I thought you would have mentioned it. Or maybe there is another possibility I haven't considered. Give me a hand here. jl -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > - You can exclude only one pattern. > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to figure > > out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine when I > > run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, and > > just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've missed? On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:17:31PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) pattern > that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. Also the path > to file(s) on the window machine that is excluded properly by smbclient > but gets included by amanda. No such animal. I never said smbclient, I said tar. The system is running the amanda client. -- Joe Rhett Senior Geek Meer.net
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > - You can exclude only one pattern. > > Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to figure > out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine when I > run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, and > just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've missed? > Joe, could you give us your example exclude (note it is singlular) pattern that fails with amanda dumps but works with smbclient. Also the path to file(s) on the window machine that is excluded properly by smbclient but gets included by amanda. -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > - You can exclude only one pattern. Um, hello -- can you clue me in on this? I am trying (lazily) to figure out why my excludes are ignored during backups, but work just fine when I run the same tar command by hand. I need to add some debugging code, and just haven't found the time. Have you clued into something I've missed? -- Joe Rhett Senior Geek Meer.net
Re: A question regarding backing up Window machines
Gil Naveh wrote: I have Amanda Server Running on a Unix machine and I need to back up some Windows servers as well. Does Amanda do incremental backups for Windows Machines? Any limitations for Amanda backing up Windows machines? Limitations, that come to mind are: - Incrementals are limited to level 1 only. - Windows cannot backup open files or registry (but you can backup a dump of the registry); acl-lists are lost. - You can exclude only one pattern. -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ...* * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
