Re: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Bijnens

On 2010-12-31 10:35, Marc Muehlfeld wrote:

Hello,


Am 31.12.2010 10:19, schrieb Paul Bijnens:

Here is what I wrote about it a few years ago:

http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Mirror_Dumps_to_Virtual_Tapes_and_Real_Tapes_using_RAIT 



This seems to be a good solution. I'll try it.

But one question about it: What happens, if one of my storage is down 
during backup? Is then the data written to the other one and kept in the 
holding disk for flushing to later to the first one? How amanda handles 
this situation?


This explains some more about the RAIT, and the differences between RAID and 
RAIT:

http://wiki.zmanda.com/man/amanda-devices.7.html
(Section "RAIT Device")

and indeed, the handling of error-modes is different.
Unlike RAID, a RAIT will not automatically handle the failure of one of 
components.

A RAID system will continue functioning in a degraded state, while the RAIT 
device
will not write in a degraded state. It does allow reading in a degraded state, 
in order to support recoveries.
But you can of course change the tapedev string while the disksystem is being 
repaired, and continue
using Amanda.

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Re: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-31 Thread Paul Bijnens

On 2010-12-30 18:52, Marc Muehlfeld wrote:

currently I backup to a storage system and copy it to a second one to
ensure, that if it breaks, I still have my vTapes on the second one.

Is it possible to configure Amanda to write backuped data to two
vTape-"Libraries" at the same time (the same data to two vTapes)?


Here is what I wrote about it a few years ago:

http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Mirror_Dumps_to_Virtual_Tapes_and_Real_Tapes_using_RAIT

However, the page could use some updates for the current version of Amanda.


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* stop, end, ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect,  halt,  abort,  hangup,  KJOB, *
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Re: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-31 Thread Marc Muehlfeld

Hello,


Am 31.12.2010 10:19, schrieb Paul Bijnens:

Here is what I wrote about it a few years ago:

http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Mirror_Dumps_to_Virtual_Tapes_and_Real_Tapes_using_RAIT


This seems to be a good solution. I'll try it.

But one question about it: What happens, if one of my storage is down during 
backup? Is then the data written to the other one and kept in the holding disk 
for flushing to later to the first one? How amanda handles this situation?



Regards,
Marc


RE: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-30 Thread Titl Erich
Hi 

> -Original Message-
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marc Muehlfeld
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Backup the same data to two vTapes
> 
> Hello,
> 
> currently I backup to a storage system and copy it to a 
> second one to ensure, that if it breaks, I still have my 
> vTapes on the second one.
> 
> Is it possible to configure Amanda to write backuped data to 
> two vTape-"Libraries" at the same time (the same data to two vTapes)?
> 
> Or does anybody have a better idea not to loose all backups 
> if the storage breaks down.

Should that not be a function of the storage? It might be easier to
implement it there.

Regards

Erich


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Re: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-30 Thread Christ Schlacta

On 12/30/2010 09:52, Marc Muehlfeld wrote:

Hello,

currently I backup to a storage system and copy it to a second one to
ensure, that if it breaks, I still have my vTapes on the second one.

Is it possible to configure Amanda to write backuped data to two
vTape-"Libraries" at the same time (the same data to two vTapes)?

Or does anybody have a better idea not to loose all backups if the storage
breaks down.

Regards,
Marc


if the vtapes are the same sizes you can use rait.  otherwise, there's 
nothing that I know of either.


Re: Backup the same data to two vTapes

2010-12-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:52:27 +0100
"Marc Muehlfeld"  wrote:

> Is it possible to configure Amanda to write backuped data to two
> vTape-"Libraries" at the same time (the same data to two vTapes)?

Not that I know of.

> 
> Or does anybody have a better idea not to loose all backups if the
> storage breaks down.

http://charlescurley.com/blog/articles/off_site_backups_for_amanda/index.html


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