testacc wrote: >> testacc wrote: >> >> I have a lot of questions, please try to answer all of them. Note that >> any change to your system from your current setup may drastically >> effect the way your mail system functions, it may even break it. I >> recommend you answer the questions, but do not make any changes to your >> system.
> The system will not brake, it's working fine because I have tried and > changed already a lot. Always make copies ;) I know what I do, this is > just a last change to get amavis working right :) >>> Gary, every information is useful, so you don't have to apologize !!! >> >>>> testacc wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I can try is to change /usr/sbin/amavisd and change here the >>>>> min_expansion_quota in direct values. >>>> >>>>> But this shouldn't be a solution off course. >>>> >>>> testacc, I have a question. Do you also have /usr/sbin/amavisd-new ? >> >>> Yes I have, I only have that one... amavisd was a typo, I missed -new. >>> Sorry >> >>>> If you installed amavisd-new from Debian, then amavisd-new will start >>>> up automatically when the system starts. In a Debian system, If you >>>> want to use Maia, you would copy the patched version of amavisd to >>>> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new. In other words, you would replace >>>> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new with the Maia version of amavisd. At this >>>> point, you may be running two copies of amavisd. > I have installed amavisd-new the Debian-way. For maia I have a rpm that I > run with alien >>> OK, but where is the patched version located at the moment ? In the >>> maia-directory you think ? I saw something with almost the same code as >>> in >>> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new >> >> It is not hard to tell if a file is a Maia file, I'm sure you will >> find the words "Maia Mailguard" in the file. > Should be a possibility >> Let me ask you: Have you installed the Debian version of amavisd-new? >> I assume you have because you have a file named /usr/sbin/amavisd-new > Yes I did. >>>> Before you do anything, make sure you have not stopped amavisd, >>>> then run 'ps aux | grep amavis' and let us know what it says. >> >>> # ps aux | grep amavis >>> amavis 26876 0.0 1.5 35372 32152 ? Ss Jun22 0:00 amavisd >>> (master) >>> amavis 29284 0.0 1.5 36080 33168 ? S 19:00 0:02 amavisd >>> (child) >>> amavis 30466 0.0 1.5 35372 32152 ? S 19:33 0:00 amavisd >>> (virgin child) >>> root 31393 0.0 0.0 1840 604 pts/0 S+ 20:02 0:00 grep >>> amavis >>> mail-01:/etc/amavis# >> >> OK, You are running only one copy. > Indeed, no duplicates. >>>> What commands are you using when you stop and start amavisd-new? >>>> Are you using?: >>>> amavisd stop >>>> amavisd start >>>> or are you using?: >>>> amavisd-new stop >>>> amavisd-new start >> >>> I triede everythin that you typed above here. I have noticed that when I >>> use ./amavisd restart it comes with this: (starting amavisd-new) >> >> And exactly what happens when you use 'amavisd-new stop' and 'amavisd-new >> start' ? > I get a clean commandline with no action above it. >>> ./amavis restart >>> Stopping amavisd: (not running). >>> Starting amavisd: amavisd-new. >> >> Are you really typing ./amavis ? You said "when I use ./amavisd" >> What directory are you in when you run this command? > /etc/init.d/ off course. Should not be nice when everyone can start/stop > from webaaplications or something else. >> If you are running as root, cd to root's home >> directory and issue the same commands above without using the "./" and >> tell me what happens in each case. > Command not found off course. Should be normal. >> Answer this: After the system is rebooted, do you have to do anything >> to start Maia, or is it already running? >> If you have to do something, EXACTLY what is it you do? > Already running, but I don't want to restart at this moment. >>>> At some point you may have missed two important concepts: >>>> 1) The Debian name for amavisd is amavisd-new. >>>> 2) Maia does not work *with* amavisd-new, it *replaces* it. >> >>> 1) Yes, sorry..... typo :) >>> 2) Yes I understand now, but you forst have to install it ? From you >>> earlier post I understood you shouldn't. Please explain again. >> >> It's a simple concept. To install Maia on a Debian system, first you >> would install the Debian version of amavisd-new. Then you would follow >> the instructions supplied with Maia to install Maia. The hard part is >> to keep this in mind: the file names and directory names will be >> different on a Debian system than the examples in the instructions. > "locate" is my friend here. And Debian is very logical build. So this > should not be a big problem. >> The example may show >> /usr/local/sbin/amavisd for the program name >> but Debian uses >> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new for the program name >> >> The example may show >> /var/amavis is the amavis directory >> but Debian uses >> /var/lib/amavis >> >> The example may show >> /etc/amavisd.conf >> but Debian uses >> /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf >> and so on, and so on. >> >> If you use the standard Maia production files, you replace >> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new with the Maia patched version of amavisd. >> >> You would also have to create a symbolic link from /etc/amavisd.conf to >> /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf or Maia will not start. >> Here is an example, but don't do this right now: >> ln -s /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf /etc/amavisd.conf >> >> I will have to assume that it is also possible that you have obtained >> some Maia files that are not the standard production files and they >> have special names so they don't get confused with the production >> version. If this is the case, you typically would prevent the Debian >> version of amavisd-new from starting itself up when the system >> reboots, and you would either have to manually start up Maia, or >> modify the existing amavisd-new startup script to start >> up Maia *instead* of amavisd-new. >> >>>> Gary V >>>> >> >>> When I rename maia-amavisd.conf and restart amavis I get this indeed as >>> you was supposing: >> >>> /amavis restart >>> Stopping amavisd: (not running). >>> Starting amavisd: Config file /etc/amavisd.conf does not exist at >>> /usr/sbin/amavisd-new line 595. >>> (failed). > Did not copy the whole commandline before it. But if you can imagine, it > should be something like /etc/init.d/amavis restart > If it wasn't it never should start, it should give than "command not found" >> you used "/amavis restart" again. Do you really start a program this >> way, or is this another typo? Is this how you normally start Maia? >> This also shows that this program was not running and will never >> run without a configuration file. > You asked me to change the maia-amavisd.conf and try to start amavisd, so > I did and got that. Just informing you. I always use ./ in the init.d > directory of the whole path /amavis restart. Not a big deal, normal way. >> OK, it appears that here you are trying to start up either an original >> version of amavisd (not the Debian version), or the Maia version of >> amavisd. How do I know this? Because on a Debian system, amavisd.conf >> is stored in /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf, and the program you are running >> is looking for /etc/amavisd.conf. > Yes indeed, I will search for a "include" or something where this file is > included. >> Conclusion: >> I would say that you are probably running the >> Debian version of amavisd-new and are using /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf >> as the configuration file. > Yes indeed, it looks like, but we need to run the maia version if I > understand you right. So it should use the maia-amavis.conf >> >> Gary V >> Pretty confusing. show me: ls -l /etc/init.d/am* and ls -l /usr/sbin/am* Gary V ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! 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