On 28/11/2023 19:45, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 21.11.23 12:06, Noel Butler wrote: But they are inter-twined, DMARC just does what DKIM and SPF declare, so any perceived DMARC issues *do* include DKIM and SPF

but this is irelevant here.

We will have to agree to disagree

Not "a pass and a failure". A DKIM pass and SPF pass.

But when the SPF is not aligned, DMARC wording requires sending report for "fo=1", because of RFC something other than an aligned "pass" result.

I think this thread is coming to an end as we seem to be going round in circles, SPF _alignment_ is governed by your DMARC policy, if you use _relaxed_ only _one_ need pass so why if you use _relaxed_ would you expect it to mail you if they dont match, if you want full alignment I guess trying _simple_ :)

So, generally do you recommend us not to follow RFC and risk possible issues that are currently unseen?
I prefer fixing the RFC instead.

I think the RFC overall is fine maybe some wording could be changed but its really cosmetic, and Scott K posted what to do if you think it needs changing, but for that you will need an abundance of evidence to support any changes I think.

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Regards,
Noel Butler

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