[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall) (Ben Jackson)

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cole
At 10:20 AM 6/10/2009, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote: True. If equipment needed an FCC number then you wouldn't be allowed to use home brew gear without it being tested by the FCC. Ben Jackson wrote: Devices used in the Amateur Radio Service do not require authorization prior to being

[amsat-bb] Re: Commercial Imports

2009-06-11 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Clint.   ... Now on to using these radios.  Clint - since you have been stridently insisting on the illegality of using non-FCC-certified radios on the US ham bands, could you please show us the specific law/rule/regulation that states that hams cannot use non-certified commercial gear in

[amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 12:13 +1000, Tony Langdon wrote: At 07:09 AM 6/11/2009, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: I actually have one of the JT-308s, and found it to be not too bad. It's a bit deaf and it has not got the cleanest output but there are no particular nasties in the output. A VX-7 is

[amsat-bb] Re: Commercial Imports

2009-06-11 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Is not the issue that, in the US, whilst it is illegal to sell or import for sale non approved apparatus, it is perfectly legal for the end user to import a single item of any one type for personal use. Clint Bradford wrote: This was - I thought - common knowledge, George. After working

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff KB2M
This started my day off with a good chuckle, thanks Ernie... 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ernie Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:16 AM To: amsat bb Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Kauto Huopio OH2LFM
Its interesting that nobody seemed to look at their main page, where I found this statement: **WOUXUN Two-way radios are CE FCC and RoHS approved.** And further down the page: _WOUXUN Two-way radios are FCC approved.FCC ID:WVTWOUXUN03 Feeding this ID to Google I find this:

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall) (Ben Jackson)

2009-06-11 Thread Luc Leblanc
Here the even the possession is prohibithed... An extract from the Canadian Radiocommunication Act PROHIBITIONS INTERDICTIONS Prohibitions 4. (1) No person shall, except under and in accordance with a radio authorization, install, operate or possess radio apparatus, other than (a) radio

[amsat-bb] Re: RTFM question

2009-06-11 Thread Luc Leblanc
I called that the plug and play syndrome. Who's the one who never try to use his new gadget right out from the box without reading the instructions first? You? it's not a question to be lazy but too eager to play with. In the end you confirm what i said in a previous post you agree with it

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Spencer
I seem to have learnt something new today.  I didn't think that front pannel programmable radios that were frequency agile could get an FCC approval (for Part 90 or other non ham use) these days.   I also looked up the FCC ID on the FCC web site and found a copy of the manual that seems to

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks.  And of course aviation and some marine radios have various degrees of frequency agility, still I was under the apparently mistaken impression that user accessible front pannel programabiltiy was frowned upon in the land mobile bands in the USA. I'll have to see if they have also

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's

2009-06-11 Thread Ben Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Spencer wrote: I seem to have learnt something new today. I didn't think that front pannel programmable radios that were frequency agile could get an FCC approval (for Part 90 or other non ham use) these days. I also looked up the FCC ID on

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's (Ben Jackson)

2009-06-11 Thread Clint Bradford
... Also check out the Motorola JT1000 ... Sure ... Let's discuss a fifteen-year-old HT that has long been discontinued by Motorola Clint Bradford ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA

[amsat-bb] Re: Request cross test of satellite prediction. Thanks

2009-06-11 Thread Justin Pinnix
Joe, I used the AMSAT web site to check your numbers ( http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/). Enter the coordinates you gave and choose next 30 passes or so to look ahead into the future. The first passes of the day seem to be within +- 1 minute of your predictions for 50, 51, 27, and

[amsat-bb] Re: New Satellites

2009-06-11 Thread Justin Pinnix
Here is most of the info you are looking for: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2009-February/017391.html On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Vincenzo Mone vim...@alice.it wrote: Hi folks, is it possible to know the Downlink and if any uplink frequencies and modes for these new birds:

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's (Ben Jackson)

2009-06-11 Thread Ben Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clint Bradford wrote: ... Also check out the Motorola JT1000 ... Sure ... Let's discuss a fifteen-year-old HT that has long been discontinued by Motorola So, that proves that front-panel programmable commercial radios have been

[amsat-bb] Illegal - for U.S. - Commercial Equipment

2009-06-11 Thread Clint Bradford
Wow .. sure have faced a bunch of hostility from friends here (grin). No one has cited any specific US/FCC Code on any aspect of the matter - except for me, of course. I have a conference call set up for Tuesday with the FCC's OET and another department. We all can agree that pure amateur

[amsat-bb] Partial List of Citations

2009-06-11 Thread Clint Bradford
For anyone seriously interested in all of this, here's a partial list of applicable rules to study ... 47 CFR 2.801: Radio frequency (RF) device defined 2.803: Radio frequency (RF) device defined and Marketing of radio frequency devices prior to equipment authorization. - What can be

[amsat-bb] Re: Illegal - for U.S. - Commercial Equipment

2009-06-11 Thread Eric Fort
actually the whole of http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2005/octqtr/47cfr2.1204.htm seems like an excellent citation to consider and I would hope it is addressed in clint's findings. 47cfr2.1204(a)(3)(i) also seems interesting as it specificly addresses, operation within one of the Commission's

[amsat-bb] Re: Illegal - for U.S. - Commercial Equipment

2009-06-11 Thread Nigel G8IFF/W8IFF
It's also the way, until thy were recently approved, that numerous FT-817 users were getting the small THP HF linear amplifiers. Ordering them direct from THP. Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: This appears to allow us to order up to 3 of these radios from overseas, as long as we are

[amsat-bb] Re: Way-OT: Re: Full Duplex HT's (Ben Jackson)

2009-06-11 Thread Howard Kowall
Hello to all I am the one who originally posted this subject on this BBS I just posted it to give a little head scratching,and by the look of it I have done more then that. I apologize to anyone who is upset with this,I meant no harm. I really enjoy using this BBS and I have learned allot from it

[amsat-bb] OT? Illegal - for U.S. - Commercial Equipment

2009-06-11 Thread Roger Kolakowski
I have a conference call set up for Tuesday with the FCC's OET and another department... May I suggest that unless this radio runs full duplex and is proven to have significant sensitivity, there is probably a more appropriate forum than the AMSAT-BB... One person's time/space consuming effort

[amsat-bb] Re: OT? Illegal - for U.S. - Commercial Equipment

2009-06-11 Thread Clint Bradford
May I respectfully suggest, Roger, that you read the entire message - where I already stated, ... I will not be reporting my findings here ... Clint Bradford, K6LCS 909-241-7666 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of