[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Art McBride
I have seen it work with Sat PC 32 on VO52 Arm chair copy just move the antenna once in a while. This was out doors, using a small ACER computer and arrow antenna. I would like to try it on my ICom 720, but the data port does not work just like everything else that is satellite related to that

[amsat-bb] UNITEC-1 in New Scientist

2010-06-01 Thread Trevor .
See http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2010/unitec1_in_new_scientist.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA Daily Amateur Radio Email/RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/ Email Your News To: editor at southgatearc.org Or Upload Using Form At: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news_1.htm

[amsat-bb] College Satellite this Thursday evening

2010-06-01 Thread Dr. Jay Garlitz
It's time for another College Satellite night! We hope to see you on the birds Thursday evening June 3rd from 22:00 UTC to 0500 UTC (June 4). College Satellite nights are a monthly event held the first Thursday of the month. Mark your calendar and spread the word to college hams/club stations

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Tim - N3TL
Greg, Thanks for this reply. It's nice to know that even the highest of currently-in-use satellite frequencies are do-able without computer aid. I'm pleased to hear that, and will rethink my position on things above 70 cm. To Joe and Bruce - Here, I have noticed particular challenges with

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Alan
Folks I've been patiently silent reading this déjà vu annual discussion and I'm getting a brain crap. - comments that tuning the highest frequency is the One True Method Yikes! Why is that? So you can leap frog down the pass band and eventually stomp all over a QSO where folks are tuning both TX

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Adrian Engele
Joe, I have used both manual tuning over the years and automated Doppler tuning since last year using SatPC. As Tim N3TL mentioned, I was on a recent Dxpedition working portable satellite from KH6 using an FT857D for transmit and an FT817 for receive. I used the automated tracking on the

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Tim - N3TL
Hi Alan, Your comments suggest that I'm the one in Bizarro World. Regarding the One True Rule - I operate under the impression (which, I thought, has been backed by science) that regardless of the frequency pair, Doppler always will have a more pronounced effect (in relative terms, of course,

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread John Belstner
Thanks to everyone that responded. For those that have been on the list for years this thread may be a dull rerun, but as a newbie, the information is useful. From everyones responses, it appears that indeed there are currently two conventions: 1. Full Doppler CAT tuning 2. Manually tuning the

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Luc Leblanc
This thread is cyclic but it is ok to be revisited time to time. excerpt: My suggestion is to use full tuning until you find that the other operator isn't. Then adapt, usually by turning off the updating for the lower frequency. It isn't worth getting doctrinaire about it. However, by

[amsat-bb] Organization Announcement- AMSAT INDIA

2010-06-01 Thread Nitin Muttin
May 31st 2010 Organization update for post of President and Vice President. An emergency committe meeting was held on May 26th 2010 at the residence of VU2RMS, Ramesh as we had recieved request from the current president Air commodore Suby, VU2UV to relieve him from the post of the president

[amsat-bb] Doppler Discussion

2010-06-01 Thread Clint Bradford
... Doppler always will have a more pronounced effect (in relative terms, of course, based on the frequencies being used) on the higher of the two ... Here's the actual equation for determining Doppler shift ... http://tinyurl.com/calc-dopp Your generalization is correct. On a 45 degree pass

[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Awards

2010-06-01 Thread Tim - N3TL
Congratulations to everyone. Well done! 73, Tim - N3TL From: Bruce kk...@amsat.org To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 11:32:43 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards The following have entered into the Satellite Communicators Club

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Alan P. Biddle
John, I meant to mention a nice page discussing Doppler shift. It explains many of the questions/comments/rants brought up about Doppler shifts and corrections: http://www.qsl.net/vk3jed/doppler.html It gives a few graphic illustrations of how Doppler shift varies depending on the pass, and

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Discussion

2010-06-01 Thread Tim - N3TL
Clint, Thank you for this. Please note that I got a broken link window when I tried to go to that page. 73, Tim - N3TL From: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 12:49:35 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Edward R Cole
Just a quick comment on Doppler effects. Doppler offset from the resting frequency is observable only on the radial velocity component of the satellite and that is usually most significant at AOS or LOS. BUT what the operator is usually responding is to the rate of change of Doppler and

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Discussion

2010-06-01 Thread Clint Bradford
Please note that I got a broken link window when I tried to go to that page. You have your browser set to protect you from too many re-directions. Or maybe I messed up. You can grab a copy on the DOCS page at ... http://web.me.com/clintbradford/k6lcs/Home.html It is the third or fourth

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Tondee
In a perfect world, everyone would be using full doppler control via computer. As we can see from this discussion, it's not a perfect world. During the time that I had the equipment to operate the linear birds I found hooking up in a QSO with another station who was using full doppler tuning

[amsat-bb] Amatuer Satellites in British Columbia News

2010-06-01 Thread Trevor .
http://www.bclocalnews.com/entertainment/95263604.html 73 Trevor M5AKA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:31 PM 6/1/2010, Alan wrote: I've read the Doppler tends to move more quickly near mid-pass than the computer and software routinely seem able to keep up. Mid pass is when the sat is moving most tangentially to you at which point Doppler shift is nil. The rate of change of Doppler shift

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:45 AM 6/2/2010, Alan P. Biddle wrote: John, I meant to mention a nice page discussing Doppler shift. It explains many of the questions/comments/rants brought up about Doppler shifts and corrections: http://www.qsl.net/vk3jed/doppler.html Please use the official version

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:53 AM 6/2/2010, Michael Tondee wrote: was fun. Not so if I came upon a station who was using manual tuning while I was trying to let my computer do the work. I had to chase him all over the passband and often lost stations completely that way. I didn't fare much better with manual tuning. I

[amsat-bb] New items at the AMSAT online store

2010-06-01 Thread Bruce
I have added the following items to the AMSAT online store. 2010 Red Ball Cap 2010 Orange ARISSat-1 Tee Shirt 2010 Tan AMSAT Golf Shirt 2010 Getting Started with Amateur Satellites AMSAT - The First Forty Years 2010 Laminated Frequency Guide If you are interested in any of the limited supply

[amsat-bb] ZW8B on AO7

2010-06-01 Thread Alvaro de Leon Romo
ZW8B team was in the 2304 pass today on AO7 Great signal at 1 degree here :-) GL to all in the next days Sincerely Al XE2AT _ Enciende tu hotness con Hotmail

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:18 PM 6/2/2010, Greg D. wrote: One problem with the Yaesu 736R is that when the rig is under computer control you can't grab the tuning knob and hunt around the passband for someone to talk to. Tuning directed by computer is agonizingly slow and tedious, taking about a second per

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Greg D.
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 07:36:40 +1000 To: mat...@netcommander.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org From: vk3...@gmail.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary) At 05:53 AM 6/2/2010, Michael Tondee wrote: When I can finally afford the V/U unit for my new Flex and

[amsat-bb] Re: Doppler Tuning Convention Question (summary)

2010-06-01 Thread Greg D.
That does make things a pain. It's a pity that the radio can't talk back to the computer, which would have been a nice addition. The true pity is that the rig IS physically capable of talking to the computer, but the only thing it knows how to say is what the status of the Squelch is