[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread i8cvs
Hi All, I agree completely with Bob, WB4APR and this is what is wery well explained into the article "CIRCULAR POLARIZATION by K4KJ, a zipped file 5 MB long available from me. 73" de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: "Bob Bruninga " To: "Thomas Doyle" Cc: ; "andrew abken" Sen

[amsat-bb] ANS-218 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

2012-08-04 Thread Lee McLamb
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-218 ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communic

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread i8cvs
Hi Tom, KN6ZA With only a 3db loss you can use a linear rec. antenna with no polarity switching, and avoid the large fading that would occur if the satellite was transmitting circular RHCP or LHCP(but not linear as you stated) On the other side if you receive linear and the satellite tran

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread i8cvs
Hi Thomas, W9KE In a separate email I have sent to you a very compreensive article explaining why during an orbit of a LEO satellite like FO-29 the changes in polarization is generated. 73" de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: "Thomas Doyle" To: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Bob Bruninga
> Not sure why anyone would want to maintain the > orientation of the satellite in such a way that > would cause the direction of circular > polarization to change during the path. Lets try this approach... As I said before, By the laws of physics, what comes out one side of a circular polari

[amsat-bb] VE3NKL/p

2012-08-04 Thread K4FEG
Many thanks to Nikolai, VE3NKL, who operated portable from 6 different grids in Newfoundland, Canada during the past 2 weeks. *Thanks to his family that shared their vacation time with us "Grid Chasers" while Nikolai took time out to work the satellite passes.* Great signal and you handled it

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Stephen Melachrinos
> Not sure why anyone would want to maintain the orientation of the > satellite in such a way that would cause the direction of circular < polarization to change during the path. There are two perspectives in answering this. 1. You used the word "maintain," which implies the ability of the spa

[amsat-bb] Hawaii Footprints

2012-08-04 Thread Robert Smith
Aloha I hope to be on the FO-29 pass at 2243Z and AO27 at 2308Z grandchildren precluding. As aforementioned my home QTH allows only the western region and Alaska on these passes. Hopefully mobile soon!!! 73 de robert, NH7WN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread andrew abken
Tom, I don't think any one who designs a system "wants" this to occur, but as a function of overall system cost it is one of the unavoidable realities. Its actually a great compromise, because with only a 3db loss you can use a linear rec. antenna with no polarity switching, and avoid

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW
I can't explain it but have noticed the same polarity changes during a pass. Like S-9 to S-1/nothing switching between polarities with my antennas... it's been handy to actually have the ability to change polarities in the past for me. I do not have the ability to polarity switch on 2 meters,

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Thomas Doyle
Bob, Thanks for the reply. A student of mine once told me that if someone tells you something is easy - it is not. Even though this is not only easy but "very easy" I still need a slight clarification. I think it boils down to the orientation of the satellite relative to the center of the earth.

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Bob Bruninga
> I believe that is true but that does not explain > why the optimum polarity setting on the receive > end would change during a pass. That's easy. The circularity on a pair of crossed dipoles (about all you can get on a spacecraft) May be designed for Right hand circularity when viewed fro

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread andrew abken
Hi Tom, I have also noticed the switching of polarity as the sat travels over. What I have understood to be the mode by which this is occuring comes from the fact that circular polarized antennas change polarity as you move out of the main radiation lobe. The main lobe is circular on

[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Thomas Doyle
Andy, I believe that is true but that does not explain why the optimum polarity setting on the receive end would change during a pass. Perhaps there is some sort of Faraday Rotation effect but I do not believe that it can change the direction of the circular polarized signal but who knows what mag

[amsat-bb] Re: US Virgin Islands Satellite Operator

2012-08-04 Thread Greg D
Hi Mike, Generally, Sat operators don't call CQ, at least not like they do on HF. Especially on the FM birds, the general protocol is to throw your call sign in during a pause in the activity, when you can find one. It's more like working through a busy terrestrial FM repeater. The trick is to

[amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread andrew abken
Hi Tom, I thought fo-29 was transmitting circular. Would not surprise me if I was wrong:) Andy, kn6za ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA membe

[amsat-bb] Antenna Polarization Technical Question

2012-08-04 Thread Thomas Doyle
I had a actual qso on FO-29 the other day and during the contact circular polarization switching was discussed. The station I was talking with described a very large change in received signal strength when switching between LHCP and RHCP. I have heard other people mention this and I recall some cha

[amsat-bb] LA4FPA

2012-08-04 Thread Wyatt Dirks
Good morning LA4FPA, Ering has asked me to post that he will be qrv on fo-29 and ao-27 this weekend from Vigra Island which is in JP32 and IOTA EU-056. Good DX! 73 Wyatt AC0RA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org

[amsat-bb] Re: US Virgin Islands Satellite Operator

2012-08-04 Thread Michael Bales
Hi all- I'm relatively new to sat operations/ but not ham radio(novice in 1987 then general in 1996), and noticed this message. I've been researching alot and now have suitable equipment for working birds. How would I go about finding someone(s) to schedule a few contacts with, as opposed to c

[amsat-bb] US Virgin Islands Satellite Operator

2012-08-04 Thread Wyatt Dirks
Fellow Satellite Operators, On the 2nd I was glad to make contact with KP2CT on FO-29 for his first satellite contact and my first contact from the US Virgin Islands. We have been talking for about a month now and on our second attempt we made it. For equipment he has a Icom 706 and an arrow a