Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-10 Thread Robert McGwier
Bwahahaha On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:52 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa k9...@comcast.net wrote: ... puppeteer drive in my star ship in a few years Unfortunately, the Inter-Galactic Traffic in Arms Regulations will prevent us from talking about this! ;-) -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9...@amsat.org

[amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-06 Thread Mike Lemons
It doesn't violate any laws of physics if you are expending power from photovoltaics to propel your spacecraft. For example, you could push against the Earth's magnetic field to get a satellite into a higher orbit. This article seems to confirm this model, although they don't know what they

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-06 Thread Lizeth Norman
It's either fodder for the conspiracy theorists or it'll win a Noble prize. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Mike Lemons mo...@mindspring.com wrote: It doesn't violate any laws of physics if you are expending power from photovoltaics to propel your spacecraft. For example, you could push

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-06 Thread Robert McGwier
...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:55 PM To: amsat bb Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-05 Thread Alan
: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:55 PM To: amsat bb Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-05 Thread Martin Davidoff
, Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:55 PM To: amsat bb Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-05 Thread Arthur Feller
Hi, Marty!! Suggest sticking to the Annals of Improbable Research (AIR). See: http://www.improbable.com. It’s all real, vetted, and celebrated by awarding of the IgNobel prizes every year. This year will be the 24th First Annual IgNobel Prize Ceremony and Lectures, See your AIRheads in

[amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-04 Thread Robert McGwier
I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052 Bob N4HY -- Bob McGwier Co-Owner and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Professor Virginia Tech Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052 Bob N4HY -- Bob McGwier Co-Owner and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Professor Virginia Tech Senior

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-04 Thread Greg D
How can you tell? They've got enough 10-gallon words in the Abstract to propel mountains... Still, I've been wondering if we'll ever find a space propulsion mechanism that doesn't involve throwing parts of the spacecraft overboard. Greg KO6TH Robert McGwier wrote: I hope they aren't

Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion

2014-08-04 Thread Franklin Antonio
At 03:54 PM 8/4/2014, Robert McGwier wrote: I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052 The result is surely wrong. When measuring MICROnewtons, from a device that's going to be getting very hot (because the