[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-12 Thread Fabio Azzarello
Hello everybody, I agree with Trevor, GS requirement for the 2.4 GHz band are quite challenging. Anyway, I have another question, what kind of orbit this constellation will be designed for? If it is less than 500 km, how many *months* will it last? 73s Fabio iz5xrc On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:43

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-12 Thread Michael R. Lengruesser
HelloFabio, fromexperiencewithFITSAT-1,thelaunchtook placefromtheISS( orbit ~ 400km). Thelifetime willbeupapprox.9months. But, thisisinfluencedbytheshapeandsizeof thesatellite. 73´s de Michael, DD5ER -- AMSAT-DL e.V. -- International Satellites for Communication, Science and Education --

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-10 Thread Howie DeFelice
Just in case anyone was curious about the practicality of actually transmitting WiFi from a cubesat, I did a quick link budget. Based on typical 802.11 specs, the MDS of a receiver is about -90 dBm. The path loss at 2.4GHz between a ground station and a satellite overhead in a 600Km orbit is a

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-10 Thread Gregg Wonderly
As the birds dropped out of the sky above the ground station, there might be some objections. What has to happen for long range, gigabit bandwidth, is a wide frequency range with little time on any particular frequency so that there is no concentrated effects on a single frequency where heating

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-10 Thread M5AKA
Yes, a dish needed, ISS HamTV provides a good illustration of the requirements to achieve a 2 Mbps downlink at 2400 MHz. 73 Trevor M5AKA On Monday, 10 February 2014, 18:16, Howie DeFelice howied...@hotmail.com wrote: Just in case anyone was curious about the practicality of actually

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-09 Thread Robert Bruninga
for the life of me, I can't think where we could find 70 Mbytes of ham radio content. Not useful content, anyway. A good example is the way some people stream live tracking data for all satellites in view plus an update to the DX list of passes over the next 3 hours that is captured and

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread M5AKA
Hi Michael, It'll be a weak lower-bit rate 802.11 signal since a 1U CubeSat could only provide an RF output of around 0.4 watts at 2400 MHz but it's certainly feasible. Signals probably won't be receivable in urban areas due the strength of other WiFi signals but my understanding is the

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread Robert Bruninga
Already Ham Radio has the technology, bandwidth, and evreything needed to implement distribution of over 70 megabytes of Ham Radio data to every mobile and handheld operator every day. That's a lot of content. And the frequencies exist, and the sites exist. THink about it. Every single VOICE

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread Andre
On 08-02-14 14:24, Robert Bruninga wrote: Already Ham Radio has the technology, bandwidth, and evreything needed to implement distribution of over 70 megabytes of Ham Radio data to every mobile and handheld operator every day. That's a lot of content. And the frequencies exist, and the sites

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread Gus
On 02/08/2014 09:24 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: Any ham wanting to collect this content simply puts his 96000 baud radio listing to that repeaer INPUT to join the net! An AP runs together building a buffer of that 70 megabytes of ham radio content per day, which is then instantly accessible

[amsat-bb] Re: 150 cubesats to provide global WIFI multicasting

2014-02-08 Thread Bryce Salmi
AMSAT-NA FTP server was almost 3.5 GB last time I checked. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Gus g...@8p6sm.net wrote: On 02/08/2014 09:24 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: Any ham wanting to collect this content simply puts his 96000 baud radio listing to that repeaer INPUT to join the net! An