Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Harry Vennik
* take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours Youness Tom Vivia Karol Harry * Try to calm Yves and give us the full control and stop arguing, and stop being so stupid, and have no control over us, if he says yes, then vote 3, if he says no, then vote 1 : Jerome GrdScara

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op wo, 18-01-2006 te 20:51 -0500, schreef GrdScarabe: > * take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours > Youness > Tom > Vivia > Karol > > * Try to calm Yves and give us the full control and stop arguing, and stop > being so stupid, and have no control over us, if he says yes,

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
keep poll and comments separate... cause it is not sure he will let us obtain the name domain ... : whois amsnforums.net : Registrant: Yves Manuel 101 Kitchener Road Ontario, Ontario M1E2X8 Canada Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: AMSNFORUMS.NET Creat

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread GrdScarabe
* take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours Youness Tom Vivia Karol * Try to calm Yves and give us the full control and stop arguing, and stop being so stupid, and have no control over us, if he says yes, then vote 3, if he says no, then vote 1 : Jerome GrdScarabe cause it i

Re: [Amsn-devel] website

2006-01-18 Thread Karol Krizka
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 13:09, Youness Alaoui wrote: > ohh, by the way Karol, would you mind adding the link for BSD downloads? > also, tell me when you have some time and you're ready to work on the bugs > system, so I can give you my small wishlist.. actually, it's just one > really important

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Karol Krizka
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 14:23, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: > I think option 2 would be a waste of words, energy and brainpower - and > besides, you've tried already... yes, in theory it would be best, but it's > currently not feasible I guess :( So there we go: > > * take over aMSN forums and requ

[Amsn-devel] hotmail authentication

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
sending to ML because youness had to go and i am too tired to understand... [00:56:00] snifikino λέει: Ctrl-d Ctrl-M URL PROFILE 0x0409 [00:57:24] Vivia® (*) λέει: [00:56:49] <-ns-sock7 URL 684 http://members.msn.com/Edit.asp?lc=1033 https://loginnet.passport.com/ppsecure/md5auth.srf?lc=103

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:20:55 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: Yes advanced options are just for advanced users, it's just there's too much totally useless options. And even if we say this is for advanced users, we have TOO mu

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:08:12 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Too long email Youness again ;-) sorry.. its either writing long emails to you (inconito:P) or studying Cobol for my next project... what would you decide? :P Yes I was rude on that email, but still, I was

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
I think option 2 would be a waste of words, energy and brainpower - and besides, you've tried already... yes, in theory it would be best, but it's currently not feasible I guess :( So there we go: * take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours Youness Tom Vivia * Try to calm Yves

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote: > Yes advanced options are just for advanced users, it's just there's too > much totally useless options. And even if we say this is for advanced > users, we have TOO much stuff there. Yes, we already said we need to do something about it, but be

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
well, as I said, that's also what I didn't like from the beginning (btw, he's not on the ML and never accepted to subscribe:P) I'll add a new option to the vote 'cuase I think Jerome would vote there (not sure, have to confirm) : * take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours Yo

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
Too long email Youness again ;-)Yes I was rude on that email, but still, I was rude on ALL emails about advanced options (don't take it personal!). And everybody here knows that each time someone adds an advanced option, I will be rude! Yes advanced options are just for advanced users, it's just th

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
What I didn't like about that forum is that it was managed and hosted by someone NOT on amsn-devel team and the forum was NOT in our control. If he still refuses to give you admin account then it's over for me, move the forum somewhere else.(My idea to keep Mac forums out of Yves control was not so

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
again second explanation on its way : I don't understand the first option - does it mean we have our own forum on SF, or does it mean we "take over" amsnforums.net - ie we go in with stormtrooper rifles into the server room at wherever it is and steal his serveri think you should explain this

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Jenkins
Youness Alaoui wrote: Let's make it into a vote : * take over aMSN forums and request what is rightfully ours Youness. * Youness is talking nonsense, Yves is a nice guy and has every right to keep kakaroto from having admin any comments/input accompanying the vote would be greatly appr

Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
by the way, I was just asked what "Allah akbar" means.. which is what Yves said on IRC after saying we should make a revolution, kill everyone or whatever... it means "Dieu est grand", "God is the greatest", it means that God is above us and is powerfull and the most generous, "misericordieux

[Amsn-devel] amsn forums administration

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
WARNING : HUGE/IMPORTANT email : Hi all, some of you may know this, but Yves, the guy who takes care of the forums (admin of recordingground) is an ass... let me explain, he's just too immature (from what I noticed), I first realized that when he came to IRC and started talking non-sense, he s

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
hehe, I was just trying to remember which options I knew.. and I remembered that one (so usefull!) the option is part of aMSN (and should be), if we want it to be part of a plugin, the plugin would need to hook the cmsn_draw_online_wrapped proc and that could be really dangerous! so it's impl

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Harry Vennik
Hehe, fun you mention the "don't show a space between groups in contact list" option. I thought of it, but decided to think of the removal of the space as part of the behavior of the plugin! Actually I really don't know if that one in fact controls an aMSN option, or if the plugin changes the CL

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
no, the plugin is there as an "aMSN tweaker" because some options are really there without being used, they don't have their place there... do you think the "don't show a space between groups in contact list" is an "aMSN behavior that needs an option in aMSN".. no, I think it's more of a tw

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
yes, that's what I said in my mail (refering to "separate").. but not all advanced prefs.. only REAL advnced prefs... I think most of those are there because we didn't know where to put them, so advanced tab is for advanced prefs+ to be filtered prefs.. KKRT On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:53:58

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Harry Vennik
I don't really like that. Options that affect aMSN itself should be in aMSN, and options that control plugin behavior should be in the plugin they affect. I just think new options should not be dropped in advanced prefs so easily. Give them a proper place instead! And IMHO, if we should wait fo

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Le Philousophe - Phil
At a moment we suggested to remove all advanced prefs and put them in a plugin... So advacned users were able to customize it and newbies weren't disturbed by too much preferences Phil Le Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:29, Youness Alaoui a écrit : > we said we'd keep everything as it is until

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
we said we'd keep everything as it is until new prefs window is done... KKRT On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:15:06 -0500, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess you say this to avoid that it gets deleted... But: in my opinion it really should not be there in the advanced prefs, it shou

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
haha, Jerome, you went a bit harsh on poor Vivia.. but not so poor Vivia went a bit harsh on poor Jerome.. hehe, ok relax, Jerome you're half right,b ut I think you shouldn't care too much about it... it's an "advanced' prefs, so it's for advanced users, so people who won't complain about thi

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Lz
Now is it time to remember why i added "Restrict all fonts' size to the one I selected (Status bar and others)", "Send other users notifications when typing" (IIRC i was the one who commited that) and so? The first one, big fonts cause glitches on my system, i mean they aren't show in a correct way

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Harry Vennik
I guess you say this to avoid that it gets deleted... But: in my opinion it really should not be there in the advanced prefs, it should be moved to the 'Appearance' tab! ;-) -- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- Van: Lz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp:

[Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.206,1.207 gui.tcl,1.1193,1.1194 msnp2p.tcl,1.41,1.42 picture.tcl,1.16,1.17 skins.tcl,1.110,1.111

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
wow, huge diff. Well dine Arieh! :) Thanx a lot! :) On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, A S wrote: > Update of /cvsroot/amsn/msn > In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv4511 > > Modified Files: > chatwindow.tcl gui.tcl msnp2p.tcl picture.tcl skins.tcl > Log Message: > cleaning up s

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> As Karel said and as I said in the past, try to avoid adding Advanced new > features. There's already TOO MUCH options in aMSN and you already added 2 > advanced options in 2 days! If you add something, add it, but don't add an > advanced features for everything you add in aMSN. There's too much

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
As Karel said and as I said in the past, try to avoid adding Advanced new features. There's already TOO MUCH options in aMSN and you already added 2 advanced options in 2 days! If you add something, add it, but don't add an advanced features for everything you add in aMSN. There's too much

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok thx.. Arieh... good luck :P alot of code related to msnp2p is chaos indeed.. I would even say that 'chaos' is an euphemism... if u need help, I can try to help (by answering questions, not code unfortunately) p.s.: nice feat... KaKaRoTo On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:31:01 -0500, Vivia Nikolaid

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: > euuhh.. what's that feat ? Automatically resize everyone's display pictures to default (96x96). Arieh is working on it, says the code is a chaos... > > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:20:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > T

Re: [Amsn-devel] PSM multiline

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
As said in some forums : yes, we know it's ugly, but we'll fix the esthetics of it once we fix the bugs.. now concentrate on bugs first.. so Arieh, let me rephrase your request : are we done with bugreports ? can we finally make it 'pretty' ? btw, don't forget to keep an eye on http://amsn.sf.n

Re: [Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
euuhh.. what's that feat ? On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:20:15 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tried to add an option, but the display picture 'flashes' to the original size and back to default. I guess I should move the code somewhere else, I just don't know where. Can anyo

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-commits] msn config.tcl,1.310,1.311 trayicon.tcl,1.76,1.77

2006-01-18 Thread Youness Alaoui
Yes indeed, the option is for not having the mail icon, as requested by many users (some have 1000+ emails on hotmail, 100% of it is junk, they never use their hotmail, if they delete mails, they'll get 100+ new mails everyday.. so they constantly have the mail icon in the tray which bothers

Re: [Amsn-devel] error messages during signon

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> Thanks for the swift reply! Is this the FAQ item you mean? > > Q: As soon as I try to log on or change aMSN's language, it crashes > with the following message: X Error of failed request: BadValue? > (integer parameter out of range for operation), Major opcode of failed > request: 45 (X_OpenFo

Re: [Amsn-devel] error messages during signon

2006-01-18 Thread Gerald Britton
Thanks for the swift reply! Is this the FAQ item you mean? Q: As soon as I try to log on or change aMSN's language, it crashes with the following message: X Error of failed request: BadValue? (integer parameter out of range for operation), Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) A: First

Re: [Amsn-devel] error messages during signon

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> just wait 10 minutes until I add 2-3 more possible solutions :) Done. :) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log

Re: [Amsn-devel] error messages during signon

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Hello, You have two errors here: > Malformed attributes: HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" found in: > HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" > Current stack: :!DOCTYPE Ignore this, seems to be SourceForge's problem. Doesn't influence aMSN at all. > X Error of failed request: BadVal

[Amsn-devel] error messages during signon

2006-01-18 Thread Gerald Britton
When signing on to amsn, using 0.95 I get these messages: $ amsn Malformed attributes: HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" found in: HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" Current stack: :!DOCTYPE X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major op

[Amsn-devel] Auto-resize display pictures

2006-01-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Tried to add an option, but the display picture 'flashes' to the original size and back to default. I guess I should move the code somewhere else, I just don't know where. Can anyone else do this? :) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Spl

[Amsn-devel] PSM multiline

2006-01-18 Thread Arieh Schneier
I like having the PSM, however don't like the fact that it makes the nickname multiline. Can someone who has time try to make the PSM show like it does in m$msn where it is in italics (maybe also greyed out?).   Also could we put an option to turn it off?   I would do it myself but don't hav

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-commits] msn config.tcl,1.310,1.311 trayicon.tcl,1.76,1.77

2006-01-18 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op wo, 18-01-2006 te 11:40 +0100, schreef Karel Demeyer: > Vivia's option is about the mail icon. I personally don't think we need > an option for not showing a trayicon. -> I mean the tray on it's whole here, not the mailicon as I don't like the mailicon either :p > I'm not sure about it, biu

Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-commits] msn config.tcl,1.310,1.311 trayicon.tcl,1.76,1.77

2006-01-18 Thread Karel Demeyer
Vivia's option is about the mail icon. I personally don't think we need an option for not showing a tayicon. I'm not sure about it, biut I think it's something only "advanced users" will want to have. "Normal" users use the trayicon imo. Those advanced users should be advanced enough to remove

[Amsn-devel] Re: [Amsn-commits] msn config.tcl,1.310,1.311 trayicon.tcl,1.76,1.77

2006-01-18 Thread Arieh Schneier
We already had an option for this, it was moved and then I think moved again. Im not sure where it is now. But we do have the option already. ::config::setKey use_dock 1;#enable/disable docking and also if you set this to 0 it should also work (that was the original way): ::config::setK