Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-25 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Youness Alaoui wrote: > we'll just send prebuilt winks... > also, if the flash has to be signed, then we can't do this, and noone > else can either unless they go through M$.. so maybe there's a > website/service they offer for creating winks after mak

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-25 Thread Youness Alaoui
we'll just send prebuilt winks... also, if the flash has to be signed, then we can't do this, and noone else can either unless they go through M$.. so maybe there's a website/service they offer for creating winks after making sure the file doesn't have any virus or whatever.. maybe you'll fi

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-24 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
Sending created-winks is not high-priority, receiving is a huge step, let us know when you have something! Le 24 janvier 2006 à 20:59, GrdScarabe a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just to give some news about the plugin for the winks ... it's going :) Just to

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-24 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just to give some news about the plugin for the winks ... it's going :) Just to say that it seems that it will not be possible to create Winks ... at least not for MSN7.5 and after. When we receive the msnobj, for the Winks, since MSN7.5, there i

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-14 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op za, 14-01-2006 te 11:17 +0100, schreef Harry Vennik: > Op vrijdag 13 januari 2006 18:35, schreef Karel Demeyer: > > > Now ... it is also possible to let the user specify its flash player if > > > he wants to (advanced option) ... because, my guess is that on Windows > > > it would be much better

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-14 Thread Harry Vennik
Op vrijdag 13 januari 2006 18:35, schreef Karel Demeyer: > > Now ... it is also possible to let the user specify its flash player if > > he wants to (advanced option) ... because, my guess is that on Windows > > it would be much better to use the Macromedia one ! > > Yup, and I guess there's a macr

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 16:12 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui: > yeah, well, whatever does the job! we nned it to be customized and > portable and maintainable! apart from that, anything (even a flash player > your grandma did on her young days...:P) would be perfect as long as it > does the job,

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:18:56 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a "wink" not a flash animation and msn creates the "wink" (Cab file/xml/thumbnail) from it... Yea ... that's it ! yes, aMSN should be able

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
Youness Alaoui wrote: well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a "wink" not a flash animation and msn creates the "wink" (Cab file/xml/thumbnail) from it... Yea ... that's it ! yes, aMSN should be able to give users the opportunity to not only 'steal' winks from users, but also c

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
yeah, well, whatever does the job! we nned it to be customized and portable and maintainable! apart from that, anything (even a flash player your grandma did on her young days...:P) would be perfect as long as it does the job, it plays the thing... gnash is not in ubuntu because gnash has N

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a "wink" not a flash animation and msn creates the "wink" (Cab file/xml/thumbnail) from it... yes, aMSN should be able to give users the opportunity to not only 'steal' winks from users, but also create a custom wink, but it should also allow

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 10:27 -0500, schreef GrdScarabe: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Karel Demeyer wrote: > > http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62 > > > > just to show gnash is not the only one ;) > > Yep ... I've checked some too, but the reaso

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karel Demeyer wrote: > http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62 > > just to show gnash is not the only one ;) Yep ... I've checked some too, but the reason why I like Gnash is that he doesn't have as much dependencies as the o

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is possible to "buy" new Winks in the original MSN, so it is possible to add new ones in a certain way, but I don't know if we can literally add custom winks ... and how it works :S Anyway ... I think that the kind of thing aMSN should do, even if

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62 just to show gnash is not the only one ;) Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 05:28 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui: > oh and btw, read my thread about MSNP12 to learn about the xml parsing > proc... if you can't use it (because of ) either fix th

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
indeed, interesting remark... but question is, do we want to have the feature (does MSN 7 have it?) to 'add custom winks' ? KKRT On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 03:48:08 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Considering that the last commit in the

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
oh and btw, read my thread about MSNP12 to learn about the xml parsing proc... if you can't use it (because of ) either fix the regexp (:p) or use :: sxml procs... KKRT On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:19:07 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:19:07 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 learn when you have time, learn when you don't have the choice, and you'll get the chance to learn don't worry.. but if it's not necessary, you don't need to.. use ca

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-12 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> learn when you have time, learn when you don't have the choice, and >> you'll get the chance to learn don't worry.. but if it's not necessary, >> you don't need to.. use cabextract, this is my suggestion and I hope >> it's done. "I hope it's don

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:36:28 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yeah, stupid me.. but do we want to "exec cabextract $in $temp && $flashplayer $temp" or do we want to write our own tcl commands that wrap the library, then use "::cabex

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-12 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Considering that the last commit in the repository has 20 months probably not ... :S However it seems that most of the tools to implement this is available and documented : http://www.speakeasy.org/~russotto/chm/lzx_compress.html I can't find a tool

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-12 Thread Sander Hoentjen
you are right.. also.. is that project still under development? It seems not. On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 02:29 -0500, GrdScarabe wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:01 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: > > > >>Quote : "The cabext

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sander Hoentjen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:01 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: > >>Quote : "The cabextract source has been refactored and rewritten into a >>portable, extensible, robust library called libmspack. Now cabextract is >>just a UNIX-

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:01 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: > Quote : "The cabextract source has been refactored and rewritten into a > portable, extensible, robust library called libmspack. Now cabextract is > just a UNIX-specialised command line application using the OS-agnostic > libmspack CA

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > yeah, stupid me.. but do we want to "exec cabextract $in $temp && > $flashplayer $temp" or do we want to write our own tcl commands that > wrap the library, then use "::cabextractor::extract $in $temp; exec > $flashplayer $temp" I vote for wrapp

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Karel Demeyer
If someone wants to implement it, do we need some example winks ? we can't ship the MS ones, so some flash wizard should help us out here; http://student.vub.ac.be/kmdemeye/Winks.tar.gz if you wanna know how the ms ones look like. Was gstreamer gonna be used for hte video integration (farsight) in

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> yeah, stupid me.. but do we want to "exec cabextract $in $temp && > $flashplayer $temp" or do we want to write our own tcl commands that > wrap the library, then use "::cabextractor::extract $in $temp; exec > $flashplayer $temp" ... well, i was just thinking about smaller download size :D bu

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Youness Alaoui
Quote : "The cabextract source has been refactored and rewritten into a portable, extensible, robust library called libmspack. Now cabextract is just a UNIX-specialised command line application using the OS-agnostic libmspack CAB decompressor. Any developers who were considering using cabex

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> wow! great.. but better.. cabextract, no ? (subproject from that site).. > seems to be fully functional and they have bins for all platforms, > mac/win/alot of linux distros and other *NIX flavors! cabextract says it uses this library :) ---

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-11 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:16:50 -0500, GrdScarabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: eventually you can have the plugin have a config like .. a path to an external flash player ... or use the "open file" command in preferences, or

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread GrdScarabe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: >>eventually you can have the plugin have a config like .. a path to an >>external flash player ... > > > or use the "open file" command in preferences, or just the browser if this > is unset? :) > > >>ok, again, much blah

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Karol Krizka
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 15:44, Tom Jenkins wrote: > Karel Demeyer wrote: > >Btw: why not just showing 'm in a browser window ? This way I guess the > >plugin will only depend on a method to extract CAB (ms cabinet) files. > >Everyone has a browser, it's already set in amsn's config, mercury (no

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
> eventually you can have the plugin have a config like .. a path to an > external flash player ... or use the "open file" command in preferences, or just the browser if this is unset? :) > ok, again, much blahblah and no code I guess ;) yes, go ahead :) You seem to know much better than me h

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Tom Jenkins
Karel Demeyer wrote: Btw: why not just showing 'm in a browser window ? This way I guess the plugin will only depend on a method to extract CAB (ms cabinet) files. Everyone has a browser, it's already set in amsn's config, mercury (no, not again a comparision with that closed source piece of pi

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Karel Demeyer
Btw: why not just showing 'm in a browser window ? This way I guess the plugin will only depend on a method to extract CAB (ms cabinet) files. Everyone has a browser, it's already set in amsn's config, mercury (no, not again a comparision with that closed source piece of pirate-ware) does it too t

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Youness Alaoui
hummm.. it's new it seems.. I though it was gplflash that you pointed out... anyways, when it will be released, it would be nice to try it, but we'll need binaries (for windows/mac mainly).. in any case, we knew about gplflash, we just never implemented winks because noone was interested in d

Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Youness Alaoui
yes, yes, we know... On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:44:06 -0500, Boris Faure (billiob) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi. While surfing the web, i've just found a flash player : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ It could be used to see winks. Greets -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTE

[Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-10 Thread Boris Faure (billiob)
Hi. While surfing the web, i've just found a flash player : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ It could be used to see winks. Greets -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitate