[android-beginners] Re: Flurry and AppWidgets
No, that would be crazy. I have written a throttling algorithm that progressively reduces the update frequency over time, since the last upgrade. Regards Mark On Jul 16, 2:48 pm, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: Mark, So you call dispatch() from a service upon every call to onUpdate? ...Jake w == whitemice markbr...@zedray.co.uk writes: w Hi Jake w Assuming you are talking about Android Home Screen Widgets, I had w the same issue which I blogged here: whttp://blog.zedray.com/2010/05/01/tracking-a-android-home-screen-widget/ w I still haven't gotten a response from Flurry, so I suggest you w consider the Google Analytics API. While this offers fewer w features relevant for application developers, it does provide a w dispatch() method which allows you to manually workaround the w widget life cycle issue. Let me know how this works for you. w Regards w Mark -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en
[android-beginners] Re: Flurry and AppWidgets
Hi Jake Assuming you are talking about Android Home Screen Widgets, I had the same issue which I blogged here: http://blog.zedray.com/2010/05/01/tracking-a-android-home-screen-widget/ I still haven't gotten a response from Flurry, so I suggest you consider the Google Analytics API. While this offers fewer features relevant for application developers, it does provide a dispatch() method which allows you to manually workaround the widget life cycle issue. Let me know how this works for you. Regards Mark On Jul 7, 10:49 pm, Jake Colman col...@ppllc.com wrote: I am familiar with using Flurry with Activities and calling FlurryAgent.onStartSession() in the activity's onStart() method and calling FlurryAgent.onEndSession in the activity's onStop() method. What would be the best way to do the same thing if I want to use Flurry with my appwidget? Should I use the onEnabled()/onDisabled() methods or should I use onUpdate() since the user may never delete my appwidget and I won't know he's still using it? Or maybe onUpdate() and onDisabled() but then I won't be matching my start/end sessions. If my appwidget has a configuration activity or some other displayed activity I can obviously use flurry there. But how about in the appwidget itself? -- Jake Colman -- Android Tinkerer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en
[android-beginners] Re: HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle.
Hi Chris Was that a Motorola Droid running on Verizon in the US? ...and did the UI say something like 1 minute ago a minute after making a call (zero second call will do) without you clicking on the Widget? If so, it looks like I have a smaller cluster than I thought. Thanks for the test. Mark On Jul 11, 9:24 pm, c...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Mark, My youngest son just tested this on his Droid and the results are: It worked. Thx -Chris - Original Message - From: whitemice markbr...@zedray.co.uk To: Android Beginners android-beginners@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:20:29 AM Subject: [android-beginners] HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle. I am based in Germany and publish the Last Call Widget on the Android Market. I have been steady improving it over time, but one group of users still complain about it not working on their devices. My widget listens for the android.intent.action.PHONE_STATE intent, and then sets an alarm to update the last call UI in 20 seconds, then 60 seconds, then 5 minutes, 1 hour, etc. This works reliably on all my test devices, even with aggressive task killers (try it yourself). Unfortunately I have a cluster of users with Motorola Droids on the Verizon network who complain that the UI does not automatically update. I believe Verizon is a CDMA network (we have GSM here in Europe), though the Android API docs don't specify any implementation differences. This could also be a driver issue on the Motorola Droid (we have GSM Motorola Milestones in Europe). I am wondering if anyone reading is in a position to offer any ideas, or test the widget on a Droid and/or CDMA network to see if they can reproduce an issue (with logs)? Regards Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow athttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en
[android-beginners] Re: HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle.
Hi Chris It's working for me also, so I'll have to find people with inferior phones than yours. Many thanks (and to your son) for doing the test. Mark On Jul 12, 10:05 pm, c...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Mark, My youngest son did the test for you. Following is his response: Yes it was in the us and running on verizon. Yes it said 1 minute ago without me clicking on the app. Let us know if we can provide additional help in the form of testing for you. Regards, Chris - Original Message - From: whitemice markbr...@zedray.co.uk To: Android Beginners android-beginners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:16:09 PM Subject: [android-beginners] Re: HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle. Hi Chris Was that a Motorola Droid running on Verizon in the US? ...and did the UI say something like 1 minute ago a minute after making a call (zero second call will do) without you clicking on the Widget? If so, it looks like I have a smaller cluster than I thought. Thanks for the test. Mark On Jul 11, 9:24 pm, c...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Mark, My youngest son just tested this on his Droid and the results are: It worked. Thx -Chris - Original Message - From: whitemice markbr...@zedray.co.uk To: Android Beginners android-beginners@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:20:29 AM Subject: [android-beginners] HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle. I am based in Germany and publish the Last Call Widget on the Android Market. I have been steady improving it over time, but one group of users still complain about it not working on their devices. My widget listens for the android.intent.action.PHONE_STATE intent, and then sets an alarm to update the last call UI in 20 seconds, then 60 seconds, then 5 minutes, 1 hour, etc. This works reliably on all my test devices, even with aggressive task killers (try it yourself). Unfortunately I have a cluster of users with Motorola Droids on the Verizon network who complain that the UI does not automatically update. I believe Verizon is a CDMA network (we have GSM here in Europe), though the Android API docs don't specify any implementation differences. This could also be a driver issue on the Motorola Droid (we have GSM Motorola Milestones in Europe). I am wondering if anyone reading is in a position to offer any ideas, or test the widget on a Droid and/or CDMA network to see if they can reproduce an issue (with logs)? Regards Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow athttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow athttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en
[android-beginners] HELP: A Verizon Droid puzzle.
I am based in Germany and publish the Last Call Widget on the Android Market. I have been steady improving it over time, but one group of users still complain about it not working on their devices. My widget listens for the android.intent.action.PHONE_STATE intent, and then sets an alarm to update the last call UI in 20 seconds, then 60 seconds, then 5 minutes, 1 hour, etc. This works reliably on all my test devices, even with aggressive task killers (try it yourself). Unfortunately I have a cluster of users with Motorola Droids on the Verizon network who complain that the UI does not automatically update. I believe Verizon is a CDMA network (we have GSM here in Europe), though the Android API docs don't specify any implementation differences. This could also be a driver issue on the Motorola Droid (we have GSM Motorola Milestones in Europe). I am wondering if anyone reading is in a position to offer any ideas, or test the widget on a Droid and/or CDMA network to see if they can reproduce an issue (with logs)? Regards Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. NEW! Try asking and tagging your question on Stack Overflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/android To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en
Re: Automatic Updates - iphone vastly superior (Was Re: [android-beginners] Re: Availability of Developer Phone.)
Perhaps a Google experience phone can be upgraded over Wi-Fi? This is something I will try out the next time my phone detects an upgrade. If you have an Android Dev Phone then you can upgrade yourself over USB: http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html If you are planning on pitching in with the Android source code, then you should know how to make your own builds. ;-) Also, time will tell how various non-Google experience phones will be upgradable. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Availability of Developer Phone.
Android lets you install any app you want on your *own* phone. You don’t need a developer phone unless you want root access and have the ability to install your own firmware. There are lots of phones coming from all sorts of carriers, and they all have a “Factory data reset” function if you are worried about not starting fresh. Android Beginners G2 vs. G1 http://tinyurl.com/l8nhp7 Also, all “with Google” Android phones will automatically update themselves to the latest firmware. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Automatic Updates - iphone vastly superior (Was Re: [android-beginners] Re: Availability of Developer Phone.)
Google apps are designed from the ground up to use a lot of network bandwidth. If you have an expensive tariff, consider disabling networking entirely (or use Wi-Fi) when you are not using it, as there are a lot of invisible background processes that call home a lot. I think this needs to be worked on and is not a good function. I think this criticism is unjustified, as my HTC Magic received a security update last week and it asked for permission before downloading and installing the update. Well written software will ask before doing any big networking jobs, with the obvious exception being a G1 running the pre-cupcake firmware which forced you to activate it via a Google account over the T-Mobile network. Unless you have a developer phone, you have to rely on your hardware manufacturer (or carrier) to provide a firmware upgrade with the *correct security certificate* that you can install yourself over USB. It is not a failure of Android (or Google) if one isn’t provided for your phone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: G2 vs G1
The phones are more or less identical to develop on. G1 has crazy small internal memory, G2 has no hardware keyboard, and there are something like 20 odd devices coming out over the coming year. http://phandroid.com/phones/ Pay your money, make your choice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: HTC Magic - Can't install driver on development PCs
I’ve had this issue on two machines and these instructions worked for me without having to edit the registry. Blogged here: http://tinyurl.com/n684er Regards Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Weekend Project: Fruits of my labour ...
Cool. Now stop having fun and go make a useful Android Application. ;-) and don't let me catch you selling this for $0.99 on the market! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Connect 2 Androids Ad-Hoc or via Hot Spot ?
Last time I checked, there was no ad-hoc support for Wi-Fi on Android, while the Bluetooth API was still unreleased. Currently, “nearby” device discovery is only possible via an intermediate discovery server sharing GPS/Cell ID information. I submitted something along these lines to the ADC last year: http://blog.zedray.com/snowball/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-beginners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: use ACTION_WEB_SEARCH
I am stuck on the same issue, while upgrading my 0.9 code. Does anyone have a solution (or working example) for the ACTION_WEB_SEARCH intent in 1.0_r1? Other intents work fine for me BTW. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Android or IPhone
How would that profiting part work? I don't know anyone who's ever bought an application for a mobile phone. They just download free Java apps. Most of my projects have been for companies who wish to advertise their products by giving away compelling content (JavaME games, magazines, etc). However as more people activate internet access on their phones, the industry is moving towards more advertising funded content (banners, sponsored holding pages, etc). As a mobile developer, it’s your job to come up with new and compelling ways of generating revenue. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Android or IPhone
That depends: What sort of application are you hoping to build? Do you need to profit from your application in the short term? What is your current skill set? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-beginners] Re: Handset ETA
Later rather than sooner, although I doubt Google has any real idea on this. Android is a big software stack with a lot of technical risk, and like all such developments will require extensive end user/community testing to bring it up to standard. iPhone was delayed along similar lines, but Apple wasn't trying to simultaneously build a community of developers at the same time. Hence we should expect to see the first developer devices long before we can expect any kind of volume in the shops (and subsequent application revinue). My advice - don't be in a hurry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Beginners group. To post to this group, send email to android-beginners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-beginners?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
