Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-04 Thread Kostya Vasilyev

Then do it the same way web applications do.

Implement login functionality in your application, and you can check 
credentials. If the app has a web service-based backend, pass some kind 
of login token to the server can track usage.


-- Kostya

04.08.2010 1:09, Kevin Brooks пишет:
My original question was misleading. Let's forget the Android device 
for a moment. If a user logs into a computer, his credentials are 
checked on the network and he has access the Admin grants to him/her.


So without changing the whole Android System, I need a way to 
authenticate the user on the network through my application.



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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Mark Murphy
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is my understanding that the WiFi connection is based on only one user
 for the device. Here is my situation.  We have an Android device that can
 be used by different users.  We want to be able to track which data is
 entered by each user.  This requires a different login.  Is there a way I
 can access and change the network login?

What do you consider a network login to be?

A true multi-user Android environment would require substantial
firmware modifications, to the point where it may not resemble Android
anymore.

BTW, since you're one who is decrying the shutdown of this list --
IMHO, this is nowhere remotely near a beginner question.

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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin Brooks
I am not looking to create a true Multi-user Android environment.  My idea
would be for my application to change the WiFi settings then connect.

I apologize for posting this one on here.  Most of my questions are more
beginning in Nature than this one.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com wrote:
  It is my understanding that the WiFi connection is based on only one user
  for the device. Here is my situation.  We have an Android device that can
  be used by different users.  We want to be able to track which data is
  entered by each user.  This requires a different login.  Is there a way I
  can access and change the network login?

 What do you consider a network login to be?

 A true multi-user Android environment would require substantial
 firmware modifications, to the point where it may not resemble Android
 anymore.

 BTW, since you're one who is decrying the shutdown of this list --
 IMHO, this is nowhere remotely near a beginner question.

 --
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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Mark Murphy
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not looking to create a true Multi-user Android environment.  My idea
 would be for my application to change the WiFi settings then connect.

Well, WifiManager has addNetworkConfiguration(),
getConfiguredNetworks(), disconnect(), and so on. It is not out of the
question you can use this for your aims. I do not know what
permissions you need, if any, and I do not know if the API is rich
enough for your needs.

However, I don't see where any of that will do you any good. Most WiFi
access points do not support multiple configurations, one per user,
regardless of what your device expects. Similarly, most households and
businesses do not have one WiFi access point per user. I don't know
where your other accounts are going to come from.

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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin Brooks
The real issue is logging into the network that is on the other side of that
Access Point.  I apologize for not making that clear before.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am not looking to create a true Multi-user Android environment.  My
 idea
  would be for my application to change the WiFi settings then connect.

 Well, WifiManager has addNetworkConfiguration(),
 getConfiguredNetworks(), disconnect(), and so on. It is not out of the
 question you can use this for your aims. I do not know what
 permissions you need, if any, and I do not know if the API is rich
 enough for your needs.

 However, I don't see where any of that will do you any good. Most WiFi
 access points do not support multiple configurations, one per user,
 regardless of what your device expects. Similarly, most households and
 businesses do not have one WiFi access point per user. I don't know
 where your other accounts are going to come from.

 --
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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
If the other side requires logging in, perhaps you could track usage
there?

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04.08.2010 0:54 пользователь Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com написал:

The real issue is logging into the network that is on the other side of that
Access Point.  I apologize for not making that clear before.



On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 3, 20...
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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Chris Ross

  The other side, as in something beyond the network level, or do you mean 
the authentication used to connect to the WiFi network, via enterprise WPA or 
some such?  If the authentication is done after the WiFi connection is 
established, than the way you asked the original question seems unusual.

  I'd assumed you were talking about per-user authentication to/with the Access 
Point, which is fairly common in enterprise/corporate environments...

  - Chris

On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Kevin Brooks wrote:

 The real issue is logging into the network that is on the other side of that 
 Access Point.  I apologize for not making that clear before.
 
 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am not looking to create a true Multi-user Android environment.  My idea
  would be for my application to change the WiFi settings then connect.
 
 Well, WifiManager has addNetworkConfiguration(),
 getConfiguredNetworks(), disconnect(), and so on. It is not out of the
 question you can use this for your aims. I do not know what
 permissions you need, if any, and I do not know if the API is rich
 enough for your needs.
 
 However, I don't see where any of that will do you any good. Most WiFi
 access points do not support multiple configurations, one per user,
 regardless of what your device expects. Similarly, most households and
 businesses do not have one WiFi access point per user. I don't know
 where your other accounts are going to come from.
 
 --
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Re: [android-beginners] Changing WiFi network login

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin Brooks
My original question was misleading.  Let's forget the Android device for a
moment.  If a user logs into a computer, his credentials are checked on the
network and he has access the Admin grants to him/her.

So without changing the whole Android System, I need a way to authenticate
the user on the network through my application.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Chris Ross
cross+goo...@distal.comcross%2bgoo...@distal.com
 wrote:


  The other side, as in something beyond the network level, or do you mean
 the authentication used to connect to the WiFi network, via enterprise WPA
 or some such?  If the authentication is done after the WiFi connection is
 established, than the way you asked the original question seems unusual.

  I'd assumed you were talking about per-user authentication to/with the
 Access Point, which is fairly common in enterprise/corporate environments...

  - Chris

 On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Kevin Brooks wrote:

  The real issue is logging into the network that is on the other side of
 that Access Point.  I apologize for not making that clear before.
 
  On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Brooks bear35...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I am not looking to create a true Multi-user Android environment.  My
 idea
   would be for my application to change the WiFi settings then connect.
 
  Well, WifiManager has addNetworkConfiguration(),
  getConfiguredNetworks(), disconnect(), and so on. It is not out of the
  question you can use this for your aims. I do not know what
  permissions you need, if any, and I do not know if the API is rich
  enough for your needs.
 
  However, I don't see where any of that will do you any good. Most WiFi
  access points do not support multiple configurations, one per user,
  regardless of what your device expects. Similarly, most households and
  businesses do not have one WiFi access point per user. I don't know
  where your other accounts are going to come from.
 
  --
  Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
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