To clarify what I meant by C being the choice over Java for Android..
I simply meant that in order to compete with iPhone on their native
games and audio applications (BeatMaker, other synth apps, etc), once
Google provides us with OpenAL (or something similar??) and better 2D/3D
video access
You would think java sucks until you try objective c. Imo c#.net is the
best language out of the bunch.
On Aug 13, 2010 1:54 AM, "Miguel Morales" wrote:
> I used to hate Java, I think that it's ok to good now. (Even better
> with the framework google provided to make apps)
> The thread handling
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On 8/13/10 11:39 , Miguel Morales wrote:
>> I don't know of any popular fast java applications, despite all
>> these features. Again, Java is ok, great for what it does. But
>>
> just not as good as its alternatives. It's great for android
> because
> I don't know of any popular fast java applications, despite all these
> features.
> Again, Java is ok, great for what it does. But
>
just not as good as its alternatives.
It's great for android because it's popular. It's stable, there's
tons of libraries, it's fast/efficient enough. You can o
I forget! There is hope: NaCl is doing it right (IMHO)!
May be Android will one day get fast apps via PNaCl (
nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/data/site/pnacl.pdf)
2010/8/13 Ralf Schneider :
> I was just pointing out a logical flaw in another post: The poster was
> defending Java and in the last pa
I was just pointing out a logical flaw in another post: The poster was
defending Java and in the last part he suddenly told: C will rule
Android development as soon as there is video and audio access via the
NDK
Actually I agree. For: implementation, maintenance, and debugging ...
Java is far bett
> Do you know that most of the web sites, services and whatever on the
> internet are powered by Java and by a good percentage by Tomcat? Java
> = slow is bullishit at least since five years, so please don't spread
> FUD any longer.
Yes, I know. I used to be a sysadmin for a few datacenters. I k
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On 8/13/10 10:18 , Miguel Morales wrote:
>
> Eclipse is not snappy, at all. Not even close. KDevelop is
> snappy. XCode is snappy enough. Azureus is slow too, you have to
> really tune the settings to get some decent performance, same with
> Eclipse
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Ralf Schneider wrote:
> If Java is so great, why will the NDK(C/C++) become the language of
> choice - as soon as google provides a useable API?
>
The language of choice for what? Not most app developers. Except for
certain apps, Java is going to be a far better
> sucks? Do you back this up in some way? Java is a very good language. I am
> curious what you find so bad, what languages you think are vastly superior?
...
> it sucks". Anyway.. I am not opposed to other languages.. NDK.. as soon as
> it allows for direct audio and video access.. will be the l
> Actually, I don't agree with your use of "slow" with the apps you mentioned.
> Eclipse is very snappy... I've not seen any difference in it over any other
> native IDE. Netbeans on the other hand I have found sluggish at times, but
> is usually snappy. Azureus is built on the same underpinnings t
I'm not going to pull any numbers as to why I say that most people
think java sucks, maybe it's just some. I've gathered this from
workplaces, forum/irc chats, etc. A lot of java applications are
hated upon due to being slow (Eclipse, Azureus, Tomcat?). Java browser
apps are generally slower t
I used to hate Java, I think that it's ok to good now. (Even better
with the framework google provided to make apps)
The thread handling is pretty good, and tons of library is even better.
I'm not going to pull any numbers as to why I say that most people
think java sucks, maybe it's just some.
Interesting point of view Miguel... most developers think the language
sucks? Do you back this up in some way? Java is a very good language. I
am curious what you find so bad, what languages you think are vastly
superior? I think all languages have their faults, but given the
overwhelming popu
Well I think this has to be because of the use of Java in Android.
If this is the case, I'd say that Oracle should be grateful that
Android chose Java when there are better options out there. I
personally wouldn't have touched the language if it wasn't for
Android. Most developers think it sucks
If there were no lawsuits, then I would worry. This is an encouraging sign
that Android is starting to rattle more cages due to its expected
profitability and competitiveness.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
> Oh gee, another patent lawsuit. :p
>
> I certainly wouldn't los
Oh gee, another patent lawsuit. :p
I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over this as a third party developer. :}
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Frank Weiss wrote:
> It hit the press today. Rumored that Google refused to settle. I have
> no idea where this is headed, but I'll continue to develo
It hit the press today. Rumored that Google refused to settle. I have
no idea where this is headed, but I'll continue to develop for
Android.
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