[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-22 Thread tberthel
An emulator that accurately models the performance of real hardware will not be able to run in realtime on any machine sitting on someone's desk. That is not true. It can be done for a cell phone. You need about 10x to do it. I would hope most people desktops are in that range. Oddly that

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-22 Thread tberthel
Edit: Not that it matters. I was looking for estimated performance like the WTK does for J2ME and not exact performance. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-21 Thread hackbod
On Aug 20, 9:16 pm, tberthel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The emulator to run on a system much faster than the real device. 2. Instrumentation to control timing. An emulator that accurately models the performance of real hardware will not be able to run in realtime on any machine sitting on

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-20 Thread Jeff Hamilton
It's hard to make such statements about a certain PC emulating a certain level of phone. There are a lot more factors at play than pure CPU clock speed when determining end user performance. Things like the memory bus speed, the speed of flash, cache sizes, cache replacement algorithms, adjustable

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-20 Thread tberthel
I was obviously referring to the first phone I.E. the T-Mobile phone coming out in Nov. On Aug 19, 11:58 pm, Justin (Google Employee) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone give us the PC hardware of something that is running it the same speed as the real phone? There is no the phone.

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-20 Thread tberthel
This is why performance emulation requires: 1. The emulator to run on a system much faster than the real device. 2. Instrumentation to control timing. I was just looking for a rough estimate like say a Centrino Duo 1.7 Ghz with 1 Gig. On Aug 20, 7:20 pm, Jeff Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-19 Thread hackbod
On Aug 19, 6:54 pm, tberthel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the first phones going to be this fast? The spend of the emulator depends entirely on the PC you are running it on, so there is no way to correlate whatever speed you see with the speed on an actual device. (And that is ignoring other

[android-developers] Re: .9 SDK Questions

2008-08-19 Thread tberthel
Could someone give us the PC hardware of something that is running it the same speed as the real phone? When will the PC not determine the performance as much? I assume they could provide a sleep timer to provide semi accurate performance to a phone with a profile until instrumentation is added